Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Also in my signature is a link to the website for DC. On the downloads page there is a link to view all the DC bug reports and enhancement requests as well as the link to file them.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hm, if you use DialCentral with a locale which does not use PM/AM time format, you can't get the calls history or messages list, but you get instead a "unparsed data remains: AM" error (or something along the line). This is due to the fact that the %p in strptime is user locale dependant : the parsed uses C (or so), while strptime doesn't expect any thing behind %p since my locale (fr_FR) uses 24 hours time format.
I've written a small patch against latest git that temporarily switches the locale to C when parsing such dates. It's not /that/ clean but it works, and I don't see a cleaner way of doing this.

Thanks for this awesome piece of software anyway :)

PS : i don't know if this affects TOR, I haven't been able to try yet

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Actually, this first patch worked great on my computer but not on the n900. A simpler (which avoids tricking strptime and all) patch is simply to handle the ValueError exceptions which are /probably/ caused by the extra AM/PM and to do the AM/PM conversion by hand. If the ValueError was not caused by this, it should occur again on the strptime-without-%p call anyway. I attached the corresponding patch. Works great on both my computer and n900 !

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I've applied it and sent it to the autobuilder

EDIT: Once its been built, could you run it out of extras-devel and check that it all worked out before I promote to extras-testing?

Thanks

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Updated to 1.1.8. Message list and call history works like a charm ! Thanks !

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hey Ed!

So I've been thinking a little more about having a fuller, touch screen keyboard to be used with DC.

The only trouble that I'm seeing is that you're showing the message history when sending a reply text.

Because of this, the area that you're typing in isn't at the top part of the screen.

I know you really like the way it presents on the screen since you have a hardware keyboard, but is there any possible chance of getting a compromise out of you?

Here's a quick and dirty first attempt at the new keyboard layout.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/860...0031001164.png

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I would prefer a keybaord face similar fto better keyboard. http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/2...d-for-android/
This would also allow for "portrait mode" to be an option if you can have the OSK built in when in portrait mode.

Is there a way to build a "skin-able" keyboard into an app?
It would be fun to be able to make and change out you keyboard as you see fit.

This would also be an excellent project if any coders are bored. Make a Open source skin-able keyboard that can be easily ported into other applications to use.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Yep, I already mentioned that I'll probably end up with 10 keys per row. That seems to make the most sense now that I think about it.

While xkbd isn't exactly skinnable, it does allow the option of using a graphic image of each key instead of just plain text. So having a sexy keyboard is definitely possible, it just will take more time than expected.

If you want to help out or share more of your ideas, join in on our current discussion, mrdally.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39919

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Oh hey, I forgot to mention one other request.

In DC, when you're checking to see if there are any new additions to the message history, if so, then you trigger the LED event....

Would it be possible to insert a line of code to check if the beginning of the message starts with "Me:"? If it does then don't set off the notification event.

It wouldn't work with sending the first SMS, but after that, it could reduce having to constantly refresh the conversation by 50%.

Is this an idea you like?

If so, I could file a request for it.

Cheers.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Is it possible to add contact in Dialcentral? I cant seem to be able to do it.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I'm surprised I haven't actually done that yet. Go ahead

Currently there is not. I have not wanted to bog down the interface with these things that I would consider outside of the Scope of Dialcentral. If anywhere, it would be appropriate to add to TOR.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Have you given any more thought as to how you can directly link a voice mail transcription with its audio file or web location?

Also, another thought on portrait mode. What if you leave slide rotate (screen rotation) out of the equation. Can you just have your app flip sideways via menu or is that not possible?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I believe there is a request on that though I believe I'm marked its priority as low which will probably stay such unless a really compelling case is made for it. Feel free to add ideas on how it can be presented to the user. A brilliant UI ideas (or brilliant patches ;) ) can sometimes raise the priority of a bug or enhancement.

If you do a search across my apps and sort by priority, it can give you a good idea of where I'm focusing my attention,.

Do you mean auto-rotation v manual rotation? For the n8xx0's I probably will never focus on rotation support due to it being unofficial and I don't normally hack up my devices. I would be consider rotation support on Maemo 5. I'll probably eventually port my apps to QT and that is when I would probably focus on rotation support.

I don't know if there is an enhancement request on this but if so, I'd probably have it marked as a low priority.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Note: I have these things marked as low priority rather than "Won't Fix". I don't like abandoning ideas. I like to still be aware of them and their popularity. Sometimes an idea can come up later and I'll implement it (like notification support).

I need to prioritize my time including the possibility of creating new applications (or mentoring GSoC which I signed up for this year). I would be willing to accept patches if they fit within the design of my applications. I'd also be willing to help others break out functionality for when it doesn't fit within the design and a new app needs to be created.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I posted up two requests on your home page thingie.

I'm expecting one of them to not only be ignored but horribly burned at the stake. *lol*

Hey, what are you bringing with you to the Google Summer of Code?

Any new projects or thought ideas?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Check the items on
http://wiki.maemo.org/GSoC_2010/Project_ideas

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Your concept of viewing the world as if you had color blindness sounds very interesting provided that it doesn't require massive head trauma. :D

Very neat projects you have coming.

Thanks for sharing Ed.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I think one reason I find it interesting is because I have something called nystagmus. Mine would be a bit harder to represent to people ;)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Too funny. :D

Is it jerk or pendular? Or is that too personal of me to ask?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Not very personal since pretty much anyone can see it but me (in the mirror I can't notice it for some reason).

I'm not sure, its not matter to me all that much.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I keep getting disconnected when my phone call is being transferred to another line.

I've searched through Google and it doesn't seem like this should be a problem since I haven't found anyone else posting about it.

Has anyone else experienced this or am I just getting really unlucky with stupid desk clerks?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

UI change request(s).

Say you are in the messages tab, can you change the "messages" tab to then say "Refresh" so if it is clicked again it will refresh. Seems silly to have to hold it down for 2 seconds when a double tap can do the same thing.

sending a message window.
At the top right can you add a box with a "+" so that it is easier to add another contact to the conversation (or a person icon will do ). Switching back and forth to the main DC window is not overly difficult, but can be made easier. I think making the SMS and dial buttons larger can also pay off :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Or you can use Menu Refresh. Feel free to file it if it isn't already

And what do you expect to happen on pressing of "+"? I originally thought "Contact list" but then I was like "wait, what if someone wants to manually dial a number?" Then "well, if I add dialing a number I might as well add recent which brings me back to the original UI".

The one downside I can see is lack of multiselect which prioritized with everything else is a bit low but still good to file so if someone else comes along (or I magically get a lot of other things out of the way) it won't be forgotten.

Larger buttons would be good. I just haven't gotten around to figuring out the best way to do it. Feel free to file something on it so I don't forget.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

is there anyway to include the contacts from the phone's main contact list?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

It is possible, I've just run into issues when I've tried it in the past. This is much easier to do with TOR and in TOR it works (for calls only).

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Thanks, is that means we will be able to see this feature in the next version?

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Next version of Dialcentral? Unlikely unless someone else sends me a patch?

TOR? the version in extras-testing should have that much contact integration

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I never thought of the fact that someone may need to type in a number to be txted. I envisioned it as almost a quick switch option that would simply bring the main GUI to the front. This is also how I wish the hardware "arrow back" button would function on my 810 ;)

I will file a request after a bit more discussion with you here, that way we will have a better understanding/vision of whats what :)

Keep up the good fight. I wish there was more of you to go around to fill the gaps on the missing apps for the 8x0 series!

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Potential Feature?

Would it be possible to have, either tied to DC or TOR, an applet on the desktop that would work like an RSS reader listing the latest incoming vmails/texts?

I guess it would be POSSIBLE but am I the only one who would find this extremely useful? :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I imagine it could be useful. There already is a feature request for a dialpad widget. For me they are a low priority but others could come along and implement it (in theory).

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Hey Ed.

Say you have notifications set to one minute.

Once a notification is flagged, DC stops to keep looking after that until it's cleared by the refresh button or by logging in again, correct?

I mean there's no point for DC to keep running in the background searching for additional messages every minute if the first one has yet to be read.

Just a question out of curiosity.

Anyway, a neat little feature would be to have some sort of pop up widget on the screen instead of the flashing LED.

It sounds like you're all done coding for this though.

If so, my final thanks to you for completing this project. :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I'm still making changes to Dialcentral, I'm just not doing anything with Notifications, especially with The One Ring available.

I welcome people filing feature requests for anything you like. Someone besides me might have an itch to implement it.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

addison,
i have stopped using dialcentral for notification and have since created a gamil account. i have my email to check as ofthen as needed. plus with gmail, you can quickly reply to the email and it will sms back to the original sender. makes messaging receiving and replying a breeze. granted it does not fix the lacking 'feature' if you want to call it that but is a good alternative.

Epage you mentioned others contributing, has this happened yet? i thought u were a 1 man gang so to speak :)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I always dream of others helping out. Since I've taken over each app all I've received was a patch to better handles locales.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

i do recall that now that u mention it. I guess i should have payed more attention in my programming classes :) keep it up brother, your work is appreciated

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

I just tried out Google's own mobile voice webapp and so far it looks pretty good.

How to:
1) Go to http://www.google.com/mobile/voice/

2) Select "Send to phone" (you can use your google voice number and you get the link there)

3) Click/type in that link on your NIT and log in.


However,
a)when trying to listen to a voice mail in the web app it tries to open the voice file (which is an mp3 file) in Media Player who says it can't play it. Is there a way to default another player than Media Player for mp3 files to see if that'll work, and

b) I don't seem to get a dialpad anywhere.

I assume this can be due to that I had the sent to my google voice number - could someone out there that have an iPhone post the link they get (it's not to your account - it's to the version that should fit the most for your platform - as I'd like to see how the iPhone version looks)?

(I still love Dialcentral..this is just a backup) :-)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

1. You should be able to use mobile GV even on a desktop by switching the user agent string to match the n900.
2. save the voicemail as an mp3. Then play it. For some reason the media player doesn't like the audio stream from google.
3. mobile GV does not have a dialpad. Maybe the iPhone version does, but the standard version just has a text box to type into.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Macuco is in Extras-Devel, and provides an iPhone-like browser. All the pages there show up just like on my wife's Touchie. GVmobile gives you a dialpad, but it gives me an error.

If you trust Extras-Devel you should give it a try.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

That is like saying "if you trust walking alone at night in the worst part of the city". Yeah, sure, there are some great citizens in that neighborhood but you just don't randomly start knocking on doors.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Diablo? I'll have a look!