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qole	2010-05-07 16:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

wmurpht: it takes a bit of finesse... I had to do it several times, but it does work.

It shouldn't have anything to do with the latest image; but perhaps it is a problem with your hardware keys settings.

Open a terminal and enter:

Code:

cp .xbindkeysrc.dist .xbindkeysrc

This should copy the latest version of the hardware key bindings; it doesn't copy it automatically, in case you have custom keys mapped.

debernardis

2010-05-07 16:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmurpht (Post 648226)

No luck being able to toggle the F11 keys after starting open office from the regular desktop. Going to install latest image tonight and see what happens.

Some pages back in this thread there's my suggestion on how to map Esc to shift-backspace. It's quite convenient to close that modal dialogs which occupy the whole n900 gui.

rebhana

2010-05-07 22:11

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmurpht (Post 648226)

No luck being able to toggle the F11 keys after starting open office from the regular desktop. Going to install latest image tonight and see what happens.

You shouldn't have to reinstall the image for that! Make sure that you really launched the application which sets up the Debian HW keys (an icon with some keys on it) before you start OO from the regular desktop and that .xbindkeysrc contains settings for F1-F12.

wmurpht

2010-05-08 14:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 648267)

Code:

cp .xbindkeysrc.dist .xbindkeysrc

This should copy the latest version of the hardware key bindings; it doesn't copy it automatically, in case you have custom keys mapped.

Success! I think copying the latest key bindings did the trick. Appreciate all the help and hopefully can return the favor one of these days.

rebhana

2010-05-08 17:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmurpht (Post 649362)

Success! I think copying the latest key bindings did the trick. Appreciate all the help and hopefully can return the favor one of these days.

Since this is a beta testing thread, it is indeed very useful to come up with such issues. I have now added to the wiki the information that upgrading Easy Debian does not overwrite existing .xbindkeyrc files but then installs .xbindkeysrc.dist.

rebhana

2010-05-08 18:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 648277)

Some pages back in this thread there's my suggestion on how to map Esc to shift-backspace. It's quite convenient to close that modal dialogs which occupy the whole n900 gui.

I have now noticed that xkeybinding shift-backspace to Esc, which I adopted myself, interferes with microB, where this is a key binding for "forward". In fact, also Ctrl+Space and Ctrl+Up for full-screen toggles are already in use according to http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Shortcuts_and_Gestures (fortunately Ctrl+. is not occupied yet!).

However, the Fn+Shift+key combo is completely free, so I think I for one will use that for all the special Easy-Debian key bindings. Since Fn+Shift+Backspace is already F12 (being the 12th key in the upper row), I think an easy to remember key binding would be Fn+Shift+LeftArrow. So I would propose that the next version of Easy Debian switches over to the Fn+Shift convention for additional special Easy Debian keys, and perhaps also the full-screen toggle.

marmota

2010-05-08 20:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I would like to increase the size of the image of easydebian. I found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=266

Some more questions:
Is it still the correct way?

In order to avoid problems with FAT is it better to move to the external memory card?

Is it possible to move the whole image from Mydocs to the memory card without reinstalling all the softwares in easydebian?

Thank you very much in advance!

fw190

2010-05-08 22:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Is it possible to change the spell checking in open office to an other language than English? I've tried to switch it to Polish but it doesn't work.

andyph666

2010-05-08 22:05

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Anyone using vlc with easy debian? anyone know if you can view videos?

Addison

2010-05-08 22:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyph666 (Post 649820)

Anyone using vlc with easy debian? anyone know if you can view videos?

Install Knots 2 instead from the app manager.

It works like a dream! :)

qole	2010-05-09 02:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

There's a VLC for Maemo available, too. Command line only, but it is sure to work better than VLC in Easy Debian...

asyik

2010-05-09 06:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmota (Post 649752)

Is it possible to move the whole image from Mydocs to the memory card without reinstalling all the softwares in easydebian?

Sure it is possible.

Just change setting in /home/user/.chroot file and change the path to the memory card after moving the image file.

All the softwares you have installed will go together. You don't need to reinstall them (unless if you use new a image file).

Note: Don't forget to click on Close Debian first before move the image to avoid problem with mounting.

rebhana

2010-05-09 08:16

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmota (Post 649752)

I would like to increase the size of the image of easydebian. I found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=266

Some more questions:
Is it still the correct way?

According to qole's response back then, this is not recommended.

Quote:

In order to avoid problems with FAT is it better to move to the external memory card?

Is it possible to move the whole image from Mydocs to the memory card without reinstalling all the softwares in easydebian?

On the memory card you can go beyond 2GB by making a separate ext2 partition. I don't have that done myself, because I don't have a memory card (yet), but I have learnt that you should have also some FAT partition on the card for the sake of Maemo.

rebhana

2010-05-09 10:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 649819)

Is it possible to change the spell checking in open office to an other language than English? I've tried to switch it to Polish but it doesn't work.

Yes, works for me in German. You however need to install a hunspell or myspell dictionary for that. I guess you need myspell-pl (didn't see a Polish hunspell dictionary).

maartenmk

2010-05-09 16:02

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyph666 (Post 649820)

Anyone using vlc with easy debian? anyone know if you can view videos?

I did install it, and it works, but the colors are messed up. The performance varies. I didn't try Qole's latest image though.

fw190

2010-05-09 17:22

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 650322)

Yes, works for me in German. You however need to install a hunspell or myspell dictionary for that. I guess you need myspell-pl (didn't see a Polish hunspell dictionary).

maybe this is a stupid question but how to do it? Should I use the app which shows up after installing Easy debian which allows to install extra packages for the image?

marmota

2010-05-09 18:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Thanks for the answers. I managed to get an ext3 partition in the memory card, to move the image there and to start again easydebian!
Next step I will try to increase the size. Let's hope for the best !

rebhana

2010-05-09 19:39

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmota (Post 650763)

An alternative to having a loop device within the ext3 partition would be to just untar the contents of the image into your ext3 partiiton if you just need it for Easy Debian. Might have an advantage regarding speed. I guess qole would be the one who has more insight here.

rebhana

2010-05-09 20:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 650679)

maybe this is a stupid question but how to do it? Should I use the app which shows up after installing Easy debian which allows to install extra packages for the image?

Yes, you can install trhough the Synaptic package manager. Alternatively, you can do it from the command line: open the Debian chroot terminal (red swirl icon) and type in

Code:

apt-get update

apt-get install myspell-pl

apt-get clean

See the wiki for more info.

fw190

2010-05-09 21:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

it want;s to remove all open office files like writer calc and also gimp and it says that 38 files will be removed and 1 will be installed. If i understand it correct I will have the spell checking but no app in which I can use it.

rebhana

2010-05-09 21:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 650935)

You are right, I tried it myself. Don't let openoffice etc. be removed! What you need to do before installing myspell-pl is to activate the squeeze repository. Apparently myspell-pl from the stable (lenny) distribution does not go together with the rest of the packages. So before doing the above three apt-get commands, start an editor of your choice in the Debian chroot terminal and open the file /etc/apt/sources.list, e.g.

Code:

leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list

and activate the squeeze distribution by removing the # sign in the line

Code:

#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free

Then try again.

fw190

2010-05-10 06:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

It works! You are great! Now I have an other problem. I would have to use some extra keys while writing ą,ę,ć,ż,ó,ź and also German umlauts. I found a compiled keyboard for Polish ą,ę etc here http://blog.adl.pl/polski-uklad-klaw...0/416#more-416 but including German umlauts is too much for me ;) Anyway. Thanks for Your help!

mscion

2010-05-10 14:00

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Well, I did it again... While playing with the settings on the top toolbar
in Easy Debian I accidentally saved the setting with the tool bar
covering too much of the screen. Now I cannot reset it because the
toolbar sits on top of the gui for setting the parameters!

Some thoughts on a possible solution

1)Is there, a way to bring this gui on top?

2)Is there a config file for the tool bar that I can edit to get back to a manageable setting? I looked but could not find one.

3)Is there a way to reset things in Easy Debian to original default values?

Appreciate the help as I'd like to avoid reinstalling...

marmota

2010-05-10 15:11

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 650818)

I already have an image with few applications installed. I would like to avoid to reinstall everything. That is why I moved it instead of simply untar it :D

rebhana

2010-05-10 15:27

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 651328)

Now I have an other problem. I would have to use some extra keys while writing ą,ę,ć,ż,ó,ź and also German umlauts. I found a compiled keyboard for Polish ą,ę etc here http://blog.adl.pl/polski-uklad-klaw...0/416#more-416 but including German umlauts is too much for me ;)

I am using a combination of a modified rx-51 file like you are apparently going to install and additional key bindings from xbindkeys, which is the utility behing the "Set Deb HW Keys" app. See the
Easy Debian wiki for how to add your own keybindings and some relevant links.

If you just need German umlauts, you can for example add the lines

Code:

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '\[dead_diaeresis]'"                       

   Control + u

to /home/user/.xbindkeysrc and then you can get umlauts on any vowel by successively pressing "Ctrl+u" and then the vowel.

rebhana

2010-05-10 15:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 651823)

3)Is there a way to reset things in Easy Debian to original default values?

Since the configuration of LXDE is stored in /home/user, which is not part of the image, I guess that just re-installing the easy-deb-chroot package (and not the image) might do the job.

rebhana

2010-05-10 15:57

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmota (Post 651936)

I already have an image with few applications installed. I would like to avoid to reinstall everything. That is why I moved it instead of simply untar it :D

It's probably too late for you now, but untarring the image you have been working with would have preserved all your additional installs.

taxaza

2010-05-10 17:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

The correct way to install additional dictionaries for OpenOffice is (since version 3) through tools->extension manager. You can get new dictionaries as extensions from here:
http://extensions.services.openoffic...n/dictionaries

mscion

2010-05-10 17:16

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 651990)

Since the configuration of LXDE is stored in /home/user, which is not part of the image, I guess that just re-installing the easy-deb-chroot package (and not the image) might do the job.

Thanks, I just noticed that you can edit the top panel settings in

~/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/top

qole	2010-05-11 04:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I'm sorry I haven't been around much... Things remain stressful here in Qole's World :(

I have some instructions on copying the contents of your image file into a dedicated partition in a couple of places. If you don't mind starting fresh, I have a recent post in the Diablo thread about how to dump a rootfs tarball into a partition. (You need to type tar instead of gtar, but otherwise they're the same on the N900).

The instructions for dumping the file system from your image to a partition are also around here somewhere; I'll try to find them...

I really need to make that into a wiki page...

qole	2010-05-11 04:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Found it. Read this post and the update following it.

mashah

2010-05-11 10:32

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi
After installing easy debian today morning

It downloaded the img file to Mydoc of N900

First time when i pressed Deb Img Install icon
it restarted n900 by itself

There started appearing many icons and

When i press Deb Img Install icon again
it starts with asking same questions
but after a while it gives following error

ERROR!DECOMPRESSION FAILED!
Unable to install Debain 5/6 image with working audio(main) unknown lzma error

when i press on debian apps icons like open office or synaptic Pkg Mg then it throws error like

EZ-CHROOT ERROR

/home\user\MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2 failed to mount on loop0

mount:mounting /dev/loop0 on /.debian failed:Device or resource busy

based on one of the suggetion i tried this on command line

lzma -d debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma

it shows following

lzma:cannot open output file debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2

Please help
or suggets how could i start from scratch
or delete whole debian setup

rebhana

2010-05-11 14:53

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 653113)

Please help
or suggets how could i start from scratch
or delete whole debian setup

What do you get when you type

Code:

ls -l MyDocs/debian*

in XTerminal?

To start from scratch you could remove those files by

Code:

rm MyDocs/debian*

mashah

2010-05-11 18:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i get following

$ ls -l MyDocs/debian*
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 122085376 May 11 10:41 MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 302154903 Apr 25 07:27 MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma
~ $

$ rm MyDocs/debian*
rm: remove 'MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2'?

should i do y and delete it or ?

one more thing it may sound strange but my app qtirreco has started crashing for some configuration issue is it anyway linked ? was working fine before reinstall also didnt help

thanks for help

rebhana

2010-05-11 21:57

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 653949)

The compressed file seems to have downloaded fine, judging from the file size. But the decompression was incomplete. So just do

Code:

lzma -d MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma

(This didn't work for you before because "MyDocs/" was missing.)
Perhaps do a reboot first and then make sure nothing else is running during the decompression, which can take quite some time.
Unless your hardware has a problem, there should be no relation to other crashes of apps that you experience.

mashah

2010-05-12 03:56

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 654208)

The compressed file seems to have downloaded fine, judging from the file size. But the decompression was incomplete. So just do

Code:

lzma -d MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma

Code:

lzma -d MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma

it says
lzma:cannot open output file MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2

what should i do next

One more thing for the other problem i tried changing the mode of file
chmod 777 filename
and it says file is in read only system
after taking root access also
it says same message so is it such that in maemo i cannot change file access even in root ??

Thanks

qole	2010-05-12 04:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

mashah: it sounds like your internal memory has become corrupt. Try a restart. Shut off the phone and then start it again. Still not working? Still saying "read only"? Try this:

Code:

sudo fsck.vfat -fy /dev/mmcblk0p1

That will run a disk check and fix on MyDocs.

mashah

2010-05-12 05:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 654483)

mashah: it sounds like your internal memory has become corrupt. Try a restart. Shut off the phone and then start it again. Still not working? Still saying "read only"? Try this:

Code:

sudo fsck.vfat -fy /dev/mmcblk0p1

That will run a disk check and fix on MyDocs.

it ran fine but still says

after that i ran
lzma -d MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma
still returns following
lzma:cannot open output file MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2

rebhana

2010-05-12 06:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 654528)

it ran fine but still says

after that i ran
lzma -d MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma
still returns following
lzma:cannot open output file MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2

Perhaps you ran out of space? You need more than 2 GB free plus some swap space.

mashah

2010-05-12 07:53

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 654550)

Perhaps you ran out of space? You need more than 2 GB free plus some swap space.

I have 26gb free.
I restarted the N900
did rm MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2

it went fine
started again
lzma -d debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma

and now process is running...
it doesn't show any message
does it take 1 hour for unpacking ?

and then this should be fine ??

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