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Carlito

2011-02-25 07:07

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Without force rotation, nothing is rotating except the menu. Is this how it should be? Or am I missing something?

droll

2011-02-25 07:13

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 954458)

dunno if anyones noticed, but as of latest update, pressing power button once does not show clock.....................

same problem. i have to press it twice.

droll

2011-02-25 07:16

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlito (Post 955006)

Without force rotation, nothing is rotating except the menu. Is this how it should be? Or am I missing something?

phone and menu rotate. everything else does not iirc.

droitwichgas

2011-02-25 07:38

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 954891)

I'm using the graffiti theme and I do have theme-customiser. Everything seems to rotate fine....

I am not sure if Theme Customizer is the culprit as I have not got any problems with auto rotate etc, typically I know how to reset them if I did have a problem.

How do I get my 9 desktops back what do I need to reset?

Carlito

2011-02-25 07:40

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

killall hildon-desktop

[DarkGUNMAN]

2011-02-25 07:51

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Been running CSSU for two weeks now. Rotation works fine, in the majority of cases I just remember to re-apply my transistions.ini settings. I will make note of any problems and update the compatibility list. Note: Alarm Event pop-ups work fine, one just appeared!

If I were to make any recommendations, I would add an option for app rotation to remain portrait unless keyboard is slid out (N95 style). This would stop any unnessary rotation.. less processing/power required for orientation daemon?

Appart from the noted problems and areas of hildon which are planneed to be patched for rotation I am enjoying the experience :)

droitwichgas

2011-02-25 08:23

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlito (Post 955020)

killall hildon-desktop

Tried that already but I can still only now select up to the usual 4 desktops?

MetalSer

2011-02-25 08:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 954570)

You could try using R&D mode to disable the reset. Once it starts up, you should then be able to use Ctrl+Shift+X to start an X terminal and edit the file(s).

Thank you for your help, but it didn't work. The phone just sticks in a reboot loop. I flashed it this morning. Now I just have to charge the battery and then I will give it another go on the CSSU.

Did anyone else try this:

[thp_tweaks]
zaxisrotation = 1
forcerotation = 1

Cheers

ejasmudar

2011-02-25 08:34

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I think a widget for fast switching between "forced rotation" and "no forced rotation" is required. It can also have orientation lock when CSSU supports it.

Any developers listening? :)

llBlackenedll

2011-02-25 08:53

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by xur17 (Post 954967)

Any chance we can get the desktop to rotate too?

I know everyone wants this, myself included, but I think the more important thing would be a portrait task switcher, as currently the phone keeps flipping to horizontal whenever I switch between tasks in portrait mode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 955007)

same problem. i have to press it twice.

I also have this problem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 955036)

I think a widget for fast switching between "forced rotation" and "no forced rotation" is required. It can also have orientation lock when CSSU supports it.

Any developers listening? :)

You don't need to be a developer to do that, just have two transitions.ini files - one with and one without forced rotation, then write a script to copy the relevant one to /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini. Or have your script just alter that one line and flip between 0 and 1. Then you can just use Queen BeeCon to execute it. Simples.

Rob1n

2011-02-25 09:04

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlito (Post 955006)

Without force rotation, nothing is rotating except the menu. Is this how it should be? Or am I missing something?

I'm also seeing the Settings app and App Manager auto-rotating without force rotation on.

tomchiverton

2011-02-25 09:06

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 955036)

I think a widget for fast switching between "forced rotation" and "no forced rotation" is required. It can also have orientation lock when CSSU supports it.

Any developers listening? :)

Yes, I think everyone understands asking end-users to hand-edit a .ini file is not ideal :-)

Mandibela

2011-02-25 09:43

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 955051)

I'm also seeing the Settings app and App Manager auto-rotating without force rotation on.

I think I was the first to notice that ill effect. Good to know I'm not the only one.

You could check what settings you have in your 'Phone' app regarding rotation, and if those have any effect on the behavior?

Jaffa

2011-02-25 09:57

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandibela (Post 955069)

I think I was the first to notice that ill effect. Good to know I'm not the only one.

What ill-effect? Just like microb, Phone, Conboy, Khweeteur, TwimGo, ...; Settings and Application Manager both properly support portrait mode now. "Force rotation" forces rotation on things which don't support it (yet), such as Conversations, Media Player etc.

It is intended behaviour that Settings and HAM will rotate out-of-the-box (i.e. with "force rotation" off) with the CSSU.

Quote:

You could check what settings you have in your 'Phone' app regarding rotation, and if those have any effect on the behavior?

Some applications which support portrait provide per-app settings as to whether or not they should be always landscape, always portrait or auto-rotate. Some don't.

Currently, neither Settings nor HAM do. Please file a bug if you think they should.

llBlackenedll

2011-02-25 09:57

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 955052)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 955036)

I think a widget for fast switching between "forced rotation" and "no forced rotation" is required. It can also have orientation lock when CSSU supports it.

Any developers listening? :)

Yes, I think everyone understands asking end-users to hand-edit a .ini file is not ideal :-)

I have tested this but just re-wrote it on my computer so sorry for any typos. Just get queenbeecon to run this:

Code:

sed -e 's/forcerotation=0/tmpstr/' -e 's/forcerotation=1/forcerotation=0/' -e 's/tmpstr/forcerotation=1/' /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini > tmpFile

mv tmpFile /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini

This code looks through transitions.ini and flips the forcerotation variable between 1 and 0. So all you'd have to do is copy that text into a file, chmod +x it, and tell queenbeecon to use it.

There's probably a much better way of doing this so that it prints out what state it has changed to, and could also be changed to add the line if it isn't there, but I didn't have time so this is a pretty basic flipper for now.

EDIT: Better version

ivgalvez

2011-02-25 10:31

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Is there any update to libraries/tools in the CSSU?

I would suggest:
- APT
- PulseAudio
- Kernel Power with Bleeding Edge Wifi drivers, substituting PR1.3 Kernel.
....

I'm really excited with this development, still trying to compile some stuff by myself and start hacking with newer libraries.

Rob1n

2011-02-25 10:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 955078)

Yeah, I knew it was expected behaviour, and it certainly doesn't cause any major issues. I'd just prefer an option to disable it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 955078)

Some applications which support portrait provide per-app settings as to whether or not they should be always landscape, always portrait or auto-rotate. Some don't.

I think every single app I use which supports rotation has the option, and I think it ought to be available for everything which supports rotation. I'd really prefer a system-wide setting, with the option of then using the system-wide setting throughout or overriding on a per-app basis - I'm not sure how feasible that'd be though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 955078)

Currently, neither Settings nor HAM do. Please file a bug if you think they should.

I've filed enhancement requests for hildon-menu and hildon-control-panel (there isn't currently a component for HAM, and as I hardly ever use it I don't really care about that one):
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11981
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11982

droitwichgas

2011-02-25 11:01

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 955033)

Tried that already but I can still only now select up to the usual 4 desktops?

Anybody any ideas how to get my 9 desktops back as re-installing the CSSU doesn't appear to be an option?

Char	2011-02-25 11:04

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by llBlackenedll (Post 955079)

I have tested this but just re-wrote it on my computer so sorry for any typos. Just get queenbeecon to run this:

Code:

sed -e 's/forcerotation=0/tmpstr/' -e 's/forcerotation=1/forcerotation=0/' -e 's/tmpstr/forcerotation=1/' /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini > tmpFile

mv tmpFile /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini

probably a stupid question but why write to tmpfile first and not directly to transitions.ini?

btw, wouldn't that not work? most of those values also require a killall hildon-desktop after

Rob1n

2011-02-25 11:05

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 955107)

Anybody any ideas how to get my 9 desktops back as re-installing the CSSU doesn't appear to be an option?

Uninstall theme customizer?

llBlackenedll

2011-02-25 11:16

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Char (Post 955109)

probably a stupid question but why write to tmpfile first and not directly to transitions.ini?

btw, wouldn't that not work? most of those values also require a killall hildon-desktop after

I tried directing it back to the same file (as in > transitions.ini rather than > tmpFile) but transitions.ini came out blank. It's a weird sed thing afaik.

And no it does work, forcerotation doesn't require you to restart hildon-desktop.

The only problem I have is getting it working with queen beecon - you need root access and I don't know how to get beecon to do that. I used to be able to use sudo with it, but not anymore.

jstokes

2011-02-25 11:18

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by llBlackenedll (Post 955113)

I tried directing it back to the same file (as in > transitions.ini rather than > tmpFile) but transitions.ini came out blank. It's a weird sed thing afaik.

You want sed's in-place option

llBlackenedll

2011-02-25 11:29

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstokes (Post 955115)

You want sed's in-place option

Cheers

Code:

sed -i -e 's/forcerotation=0/tmpstr/' -e 's/forcerotation=1/forcerotation=0/' -e 's/tmpstr/forcerotation=1/' /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini

jonan

2011-02-25 12:01

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Settings in transitions.ini appear to be sensitive to white space.

If you have tried everything and it still doesn't work make sure you don't have any trailing spaces.

I had a trailing space after:

forceration = 1

Forced rotation didn't work until I removed it.

-Jonan

droitwichgas

2011-02-25 12:11

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 955111)

Uninstall theme customizer?

Now tried that plus a reboot but still no joy get the option of 9 desktops back?

onion

2011-02-25 12:20

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 955094)

Is there any update to libraries/tools in the CSSU?

I'm wondering the same, are there any plans on de-stoneageing the base system ? It's a pain to try to port something when "everything" tracks more or less upstream development/stable releases and maemo is 2-4 years behind.

As Nokia hacked on gtk directly getting that updated is a pain I get that one. But what about glib+gio, gvfs, cairo and pixman (arm opts going in lately) ?

droitwichgas

2011-02-25 12:23

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 955131)

Now tried that plus a reboot but still no joy get the option of 9 desktops back?

Fix it at last by reinstalling MohammedAG's Deb file from a few nights posts ago. I assume theme customizer may of been the culprit after all, any idea if the developer is working on a fix?

d-iivil

2011-02-25 12:27

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 955131)

Now tried that plus a reboot but still no joy get the option of 9 desktops back?

Yeah, because Theme Customizer's uninstall script restored the original PR1.3 hildon-home...

Try this in terminal (rootsh must be installed):
sudo gainroot
apt-get install --reinstall hildon-home

MohammadAG

2011-02-25 12:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Pushed version 12.5 to the repo.
Changelog:
* Added parallax (to transitions.ini) and zoom on press to hildon-desktop.
* Fixed modest's New Message button.
* Forced hildon-home's maximum number of desktops to 9.
* Minor UI change for libcpaboutcssu.

To get the changes for hildon-desktop, just edit traisitions.ini
New lines here for those who want to append the changes: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/h...ons.ini#line43

Second change is to prepare modest for proper portrait mode.
Third one's for the issue some of you have been getting in this thread.

Just one question, what do you think of the rate of updates?

d-iivil

2011-02-25 12:33

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 955137)

Fix it at last by reinstalling MohammedAG's Deb file from a few nights posts ago. I assume theme customizer may of been the culprit after all, any idea if the developer is working on a fix?

Right now Theme Customizer conflicts with CSSU hildon-home. I'll fix it when CSSU will include hildon-home that supports resizing desktop shortcuts. This is probably done when ever I find time to post patch suggestion to the bugtracker of CSSU...

poleepkwa

2011-02-25 12:36

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 955143)

Just one question, what do you think of the rate of updates?

It is fantastic! I have been like a child every morning, getting up and checking for updates first thing in the morning:D
You just never know when there is gonna be one... and what it will include.

ossipena

2011-02-25 12:38

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 955143)

Just one question, what do you think of the rate of updates?

imo it is much better than nokias strategy....

ivgalvez

2011-02-25 12:40

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 955143)

Just one question, what do you think of the rate of updates?

You are amazing man!

gorgezilla

2011-02-25 12:43

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 955143)

On a scale from 1 to 10 (where rate 3 is nokia's position) the CSSU team is, in my humble opinion, 9.5 out of 10. Why? well, unless MaG and the CSSU team starts dealing with the nokia email messaging notification widget (notifications for several accounts, resizable (max 600x480), portrait mode only,) otherwise, your are great...
g

llBlackenedll

2011-02-25 12:50

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 955143)

Just one question, what do you think of the rate of updates?

Loving the rate of updates - just goes to show how much more efficient a well-oiled open source machine is than layers of corporate bureaucracy.

I'm going to assume that once there is a stable repository up, they will be less frequent?

randomdood

2011-02-25 12:51

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 955143)

Pushed version 12.5 to the repo.

Just one question, what do you think of the rate of updates?

loving the rate of updates, I wouldn't mind knowing when updates will be arriving although that's something I can't somplain about, after all these updates are keeping me in love with this device.

any chance of knowing when a gui will be released for transitions.ini (i can only code simple C stuff and a bit of bash)

other things i'm loking forward to is a new media player (my flac tags aren't read by the default player...or media box) and a fix for the calander (although since i only use the events part often this isn't a big deal for me)

also is it possible to do a similar thing with the clock, clone it but have it with portait support.

TMavica

2011-02-25 12:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

zoom on press function make me feel dizzy....LOL
and what is the use of parallax??

Rob1n

2011-02-25 13:12

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 955159)

and what is the use of parallax??

Presumably it alters the distance the foreground (i.e. widgets, shortcuts, etc) moves relative to the background when scrolling desktops. This will make the foreground appear closer/further away from the background.