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sevla 2011-05-19 18:09

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
the colors don't explain why the two harmattan pics seem to have a different shape..

zymo 2011-05-19 18:09

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
maybe one has a edof camera :)

NvyUs 2011-05-19 18:12

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I dont know but that switch and a removable Module maybe.
such a tease I hate him officially :confused::(

sevla 2011-05-19 18:17

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
removable module would imply two battery sources... which seems unlikely.. i guess in theory they could use nfc to have the base communicate with the remote.

EIPI 2011-05-19 18:18

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
If the one is very E7-like, then I would surmise that both models have HW keyboard.

NvyUs 2011-05-19 18:27

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
come on dont give up we can get this, dont let z beat us :D

Brock 2011-05-19 18:27

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
i think its one device in the video... and its a little bit dual-colored... watch the movie again and take a look at the short scene of the first picture. First you see the device from the side with keyboard opened and then the cam gets around it showing the back... the centre of it is in metal grey, just the two ends are black... or am i blind?

olighak 2011-05-19 18:48

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010333)
i think its one device in the video... and its a little bit dual-colored... watch the movie again and take a look at the short scene of the first picture. First you see the device from the side with keyboard opened and then the cam gets around it showing the back... the centre of it is in metal grey, just the two ends are black... or am i blind?

You are right. That´s the way it looks. Would that serve any purpose?

laoh 2011-05-19 18:48

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
definitely seems to be two different devices...

the bezel in the device (0:15 in the video) seems to be much wider than the one elsewhere in the video (for example 0:08 in the video).

actually, the wider bezel reminds a lot of the device leaked long time ago, while the thinner bezel reminds me of that nokia conversations "dream nokia" that they showed some months ago.

but, what does this mean? does this mean that both devices have a kb?

gazza_d 2011-05-19 18:56

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
PeterMeego from Nokia posted this link on twitter a few minutes ago with the comment "whre there is smoke there is fire..."

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...tion-at-nokia/

Jessie's girl is looking she's gonna be the hot new kid on the block...

btw pleased to hear one of my alltime fave tunes, that alone is enough to get me going.....

dtergens 2011-05-19 19:00

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/3...erspeakerc.jpg
Is it possible that it's two small xenon module near the led flash ?
No I don't think ti's a good place, it's another thing, but what, NFC windows ? ^^

inzimam 2011-05-19 19:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I can't waste any more of my life on this kind of thing and tinkering with the phones. Damn you Nokia for teasing this, but I have stuck to my guns and with the thought of waiting another 3 or 4 months for this to turn up, I've signed up with Vodafone for the HTC Sensation, which I've sold and just bought the Samsung Galaxy S 2 sim free.,

My N900 has served me well and I love the hardware keyboard, but it's frustrating slow at times. Of course I'm not the most powerful of power users, and I'm sure you can get the N900 to run smoothly but it's just too much work for me. I just want a phone that does what it should and when it should.

I am going to miss the keyboard and the stylus for remote desktop. I am, however, looking forward to being able to use some apps like whatsapp, online trading apps and google apps!

NvyUs 2011-05-19 19:17

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inzimam (Post 1010373)
I can't waste any more of my life on this kind of thing and tinkering with the phones. Damn you Nokia for teasing this, but I have stuck to my guns and with the thought of waiting another 3 or 4 months for this to turn up, I've signed up with Vodafone for the HTC Sensation, which I've sold and just bought the Samsung Galaxy S 2 sim free.,

My N900 has served me well and I love the hardware keyboard, but it's frustrating slow at times. Of course I'm not the most powerful of power users, and I'm sure you can get the N900 to run smoothly but it's just too much work for me. I just want a phone that does what it should and when it should.

I am going to miss the keyboard and the stylus for remote desktop. I am, however, looking forward to being able to use some apps like whatsapp, online trading apps and google apps!

Exactly how as this got anything to do with the Harmattan devices we are speculating over and trying to find facts about, I think you need your own thread mate

sevla 2011-05-19 19:21

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1010376)
Exactly how as this got anything to do with the Harmattan devices we are speculating over and trying to find facts about, I think you need your own thread mate

yea only speculators and crybabies allowed in here dude :).

cfh11 2011-05-19 19:32

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
if you ask me the speculation here is getting a little too fact-based... we might have to spin off another thread to continue the good old wild baseless speculation people are so fond of around here :p

IsaacDFP 2011-05-19 19:34

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1010279)
okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

Who has the answerrrr, would there really be TWO different devices?? Would it be worth it to create one keyboard-less? Ahhhh

Brock 2011-05-19 19:53

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
now i have a quiz for you

compare these two pictures:

https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34273079932450
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34218124002322

kristoforo 2011-05-19 20:01

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Hello, im so exited about this thing, so i have to join and wonder what the hek is going on. I watched the pics till my eyes was getting numb, could it be, that the phone has some sort of gesturearea on the upperback, sorry about my english... it looks like there is thikker part in the back of the machine, on the top. And does anybody remember that short video couple of years ago, where this guy from nokia labs controlled his phone with use of phones speaker, or something like that it was. :)

NOMOS 2011-05-19 20:03

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
So, it's two devices with different camera layouts and modules. One looks like the E7, the other does not. What is your point, Brock?

Brock 2011-05-19 20:05

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kristoforo (Post 1010405)
Hello, im so exited about this thing, so i have to join and wonder what the hek is going on. I watched the pics till my eyes was getting numb, could it be, that the phone has some sort of gesturearea on the upperback, sorry about my english... it looks like there is thikker part in the back of the machine, on the top. And does anybody remember that short video couple of years ago, where this guy from nokia labs controlled his phone with use of phones speaker, or something like that it was. :)

nokia labs also worked on gestures in front of the (backside)cam

and due to the fact that "meego is part of the future disruption at nokia" these things are possible...

i personally would love to see this implemented in it... but at the moment only for symbian phones... i love it ;)
http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/nokia-situations

Edit
P.S.: Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by saying "future disruption"? or translate it into german? ;)

marrat 2011-05-19 20:12

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010410)
nokia labs also worked on gestures in front of the (backside)cam

and due to the fact that "meego is part of the future disruption at nokia" these things are possible...

i personally would love to see this implemented in it... but at the moment only for symbian phones... i love it ;)
http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/nokia-situations

Edit
P.S.: Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by saying "future disruption"? or translate it into german? ;)

Geht in die Richtung "Technologien, um in der Zukunft den (Mobilfunk)markt zu erschüttern/umzukrempeln"... it's complicated to find an adequate literal translation...

NOMOS 2011-05-19 20:12

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
It means changes in technology that are revolutionary, not evolutionary, and can change the marketplace for these products. So higher pixel density is not a possible future disruption, but 3D projected holographic UI would be. I didn't dare try my german here :)

Edit: Was late.

kristoforo 2011-05-19 20:19

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Well we have to wait and see, and hope that nokia takes all that huge potential in use, there must be so much innovations in the closet that are not dared to use, but now is the time. (hopefully) Maybe this situation is good for nokia, loosing shares, makes them to gome out of the shell and take new risks.

K.Singh 2011-05-19 20:19

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Does anyone know the answer?

LTman 2011-05-19 20:22

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
here is some speculation for you guys
hopefully this thing will have 1 gb ram and an intel atom dual core for an exra kick + good battery life
P.S if my speculations above all come true (i am specificaly pointing to intel + batt.) then i will eat my jeans

tissot 2011-05-19 20:22

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by laoh (Post 1010353)
definitely seems to be two different devices...

the bezel in the device (0:15 in the video) seems to be much wider than the one elsewhere in the video (for example 0:08 in the video).

Honestly i can't see any difference between the thickness of the bezel between those.
Also the device looks quite a bit thinner on some pics and in some not because its curvey back plate.

Camera modules do look different and can't explain that right away, Though i can't find any other differences so it would seem kind of silly to just have one pic of some other device. So it could be just random pic showing the module close up and getting us excited about the 12 camera module.


Or am i missing something else?


EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by LTman (Post 1010420)
P.S if my speculations above all come true (i am specificaly pointing to intel + batt.) then i will eat my jeans

Your jeans are more than likely safe. :)

Brock 2011-05-19 20:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1010421)
Honestly i can't see any difference between the thickness of the bezel between those.
Also the device looks quite a bit thinner on some pics and in some not because its curvey back plate.

Camera modules do look different and can't explain that right away, Though i can't find any other differences so it would seem kind of silly to just have one pic of some other device. So it could be just random pic showing the module close up and getting us excited about the 12 camera module.

i totally agree
and
lets say you win :)

the closeup of the cam is a little bit cleaned with photoshop, nothing special, just to focus the viewer to the cam. thats it ;)

Edit
P.S. The calender shows Wed. 29. Jan. 2010. But that was a Friday!

mivoligo 2011-05-19 20:43

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K.Singh (Post 1010419)
Does anyone know the answer?

I know. It is "42".

Creamy Goodness 2011-05-19 20:49

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
no way, it's two devices. both should have keyboards, or he wouldn't put pictures of the e7 for no reason... maybe it's the rm680 vs 686 or something.

ZackMorris 2011-05-19 20:50

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
It couldn't be something such as a 3d camera...too hokey....hmm what if it is an additional camera for augmented reality apps, that might be a possibility.

IsaacDFP 2011-05-19 20:51

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mivoligo (Post 1010428)
I know. It is "42".

If the answer is instead 4'2, then I like that answer :P

Creamy Goodness 2011-05-19 20:54

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
at least we can see it looks like it has speakers from that pic with the curved back. for all the people thinking a phone that does 720p wouldn't have stereo speakers (lol).

mece 2011-05-19 20:56

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1010279)
okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/12/fu...reen-nokia-n9/

dtergens 2011-05-19 20:56

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
a lock slide button on the back to give choice with landscape or portrait desktop ??? :D

tissot 2011-05-19 20:58

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1010430)
no way, it's two devices. both should have keyboards, or he wouldn't put pictures of the e7 for no reason... maybe it's the rm680 vs 686 or something.

I'm not really getting that E7 part?

I got all the "important" pics(or had 30 minutes ago :)) on my 24" widescreen monitor side by side and i could not find any difference for the life of me, other than the camera modules.

But please if somebody got something to prove me wrong please tell because i would not want anything else than it to be true that the video got 2 devices.

blackbox 2011-05-19 20:58

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I can't really see what he is trying to hint! I've dug up some old photos of the N9 prototype and everything looks the same to me. Here take a look:

http://www.symbiantweet.com/leaked-n...embly-pictures

It's hard to tell really just how thin this device is. Sometimes it looks really thin and sometimes it looks just tad bit thinner than the n900.

K.Singh 2011-05-19 21:01

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IsaacDFP (Post 1010433)
If the answer is instead 4'2, then I like that answer :P

if only women would say that eh!

Brock 2011-05-19 21:01

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 1010432)
It couldn't be something such as a 3d camera...too hokey....hmm what if it is an additional camera for augmented reality apps, that might be a possibility.

they could use the 12mp cam for augmented reality, why using extra hardware for it? for me it looks like something like a speaker grill or something like that

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...922h58m33.png/

sevla 2011-05-19 21:02

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mece (Post 1010436)

hmmm is the red steel phone in the teaser???

the plot THICKENS!!!!!!!!!

qwazix 2011-05-19 21:02

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34273079932450

maybe it's 17mp camera :)
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