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mikecomputing 2013-05-13 13:03

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1343223)
YES via Facebook...

And they also said SailfisOS will work on N9.. :D

They had said it will work on N9 for long. BUT that does NOT mean they will officially support N9. Its up to the community.

jalyst 2013-05-13 13:04

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1343223)
And they also said SailfisOS will work on N9.. :D

I hope you're joking, they've never said anything like that.

cvp 2013-05-13 13:13

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nice, there send invite.... but... At which time of it begin? And there will be a live stream?

willi6868 2013-05-13 13:15

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1343233)
I hope you're joking, they've never said anything like that.

No I am not joking they said something like this but not such explicit...

BTW took the picutere on 30th April :)

mikecomputing 2013-05-13 13:18

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Now question is:

Who is the other half? Huawai?

Or even Nokia ;) (remember Elop one day said Meego is disruption....)

mikecomputing 2013-05-13 13:21

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1343241)
No I am not joking they said something like this but not such explicit...

BTW took the picutere on 30th April :)

AGAIN! Its up to the community and/or if Nokia PAY for upgrade N9!

Above proves NOTHING about N9 support.

willi6868 2013-05-13 13:25

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1343243)
AGAIN! Its up to the community and/or if Nokia PAY for upgrade N9!

Above proves NOTHING about N9 support.

I think you missunderstood me .. :D I know that they won't support our Nokia Handsets ... at least official.. :D

jalyst 2013-05-13 13:28

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1343242)
Or even Nokia ;) (remember Elop one day said Meego is disruption....)

No... just no.....

Dave999 2013-05-13 13:30

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The other half is...

Htc, Sony or samsung. Who don't have a second OS ;)

nodevel 2013-05-13 13:48

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It might be much more simple than that:
they showed the back side of the device last week, now they are pointing at the front side (the other half)

Dave999 2013-05-13 13:50

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1343255)
It might be much more simple than that:
they showed the back side of the device last week, now they are pointing at the front side (the other half)

Why did you ruin all the fun. They were all on speculation mode :(

mikecomputing 2013-05-13 13:52

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New jolla app :D

willi6868 2013-05-13 14:34

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Jolla countdown app for MeeGo
http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com...a-countdown-2/ :D

Dave999 2013-05-13 14:39

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1343271)

Great! Let's countdown.

rcolistete 2013-05-13 14:41

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Wishful thinking : the other half is a keyboard-dock, like a N9 which can be a N950. Touch Jolla smartphone for the masses, touch-qwerty-keyboard Jolla smartphone for the geeks who love X Terminal.

mikecomputing 2013-05-13 15:30

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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1343275)
Wishful thinking : the other half is a keyboard-dock, like a N9 which can be a N950. Touch Jolla smartphone for the masses, touch-qwerty-keyboard Jolla smartphone for the geeks who love X Terminal.

Will not happen.

saleki 2013-05-13 15:32

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the other half are features they didn't show on sailfish os presentations... things like magic and stuff like that :D

jalyst 2013-05-13 15:34

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1343255)
It might be much more simple than that:
they showed the back side of the device last week, now they are pointing at the front side (the other half)

LOL, so true, marketing at it's worst if true, they're new at it, gotta give them some slack, they are but young padwans compared to Apple :)

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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1343275)
Wishful thinking : the other half is a keyboard-dock, like a N9 which can be a N950. Touch Jolla smartphone for the masses, touch-qwerty-keyboard Jolla smartphone for the geeks who love X Terminal.

This. This is an area in which surely they can deliver...
They don't have the IP or the hard-hitting engineering to deliver the type of imaging tech that Nokia can.
But surely they can deliver a better modular QWERTY Keyb than what MS's done for the Surface.

tissot 2013-05-13 15:41

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Teaser video by Jolla.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9B2ebLgXcQ

RX-51 2013-05-13 15:49

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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1343291)

You're gonna be able to attach either a keyboard or a second screen to the phone (think nintendo 3ds). It will be built with a modular concept in mind. ...wild speculations of course.

jalyst 2013-05-13 15:49

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http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9b3f6d43.gif

willi6868 2013-05-13 15:50

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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1343291)

some propaganda: :D Maybe the the jolla phone is hidden in the fast sequences of the video?! :D

BTW I am missing the jolla soundtrack in the video.. :)

Edit: Is Jolla reading this thread? :eek:

Copernicus 2013-05-13 16:28

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Come on guys, get real here. Jolla has made Sailfish public, and now they are going to show off their first phone. That's all that "the other half" means; we've seen the software, now we'll get to see the hardware.

rcolistete 2013-05-13 16:44

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No, no, no.

There will be 2 Jolla smartphones : one made of matter, another of anti-matter (positron, anti-proton, etc) ! Join them and you will have a big splash of light... 8-P

Dave999 2013-05-13 16:48

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I wouldn't say they have showed us Sailfish! they have showed us a sneak peak. It's not enough information for preorder.

They havn't showed us anything real yet.

shmerl 2013-05-13 16:51

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Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1343307)
Come on guys, get real here. Jolla has made Sailfish public

You mean open sourced it? Where?

mikecomputing 2013-05-13 16:53

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1343296)
some propaganda: :D Maybe the the jolla phone is hidden in the fast sequences of the video?! :D

BTW I am missing the jolla soundtrack in the video.. :)

Edit: Is Jolla reading this thread? :eek:

AFAIK Jolla is not one person ;)

mikecomputing 2013-05-13 16:54

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Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1343316)
You mean open sourced it? Where?

Atleast Silica is BSD license if u look at the sourcecode in the emulator.

late88 2013-05-13 16:54

"I am the other half"

For me it sounds like the device and the user combined are the 'whole'.
You, the user, are the other half.
Well, we will see...

shmerl 2013-05-13 16:56

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1343322)
Atleast Silica is BSD license if u look at the sourcecode in the emulator.

Well, that's a start, but that's not the whole Sailfish yet. We are yet to see what will happen to the rest of the system, and especially core applications like e-mail client and the rest.

jalyst 2013-05-13 17:33

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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1343296)
Edit: Is Jolla reading this thread? :eek:

what makes you say that?

willi6868 2013-05-13 17:53

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Just kidding. :)
Anyway we are discussion about this cryptic message and getting a teaser, but maybe I am too excited. :rolleyes:

tissot 2013-05-13 17:56

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Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1343323)
"I am the other half"

For me it sounds like the device and the user combined are the 'whole'.
You, the user, are the other half.
Well, we will see...

I suspect similar type of explanation for this.

I got a feeling going too deep with this one probably isn't wise, but hey, that's part of the fun.

Morpog 2013-05-13 22:00

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http://abload.de/img/jolladay6dwktu.png

shmerl 2013-05-13 22:49

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Countdown for your browser (just paste this in the address bar):

Code:

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onethreealpha 2013-05-13 22:58

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1343313)
I wouldn't say they have showed us Sailfish! they have showed us a sneak peak. It's not enough information for preorder.

They havn't showed us anything real yet.

Depends if you're referring to being spoon fed information or actually having info publicly available information if you know where to look.

I've always found trolling through the Meego OBS package changes a very fulfilling experience......

In fact the Jolla team have been quite "open" about the sort of things we might see in Sailfish ;)

edit:

Of course, not forgetting Mer! knowing who's who in the jungle can tell you a lot about what's being worked on.

HtheB 2013-05-13 23:54

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Marc Dillon answers: Why Jolla?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXqS8MbMFVU


Jolla's Marc Dillon on QWERTY smartphones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ0btrtQ5Fc


Quote:

Interviewer:
What are you basic thoughts about QWERTY based devices
they are not so popular in market today because there are non of them

Marc Dillon:
I see that there is a need actually. Consumers can only buy what's offered to them. There don't seems to be any real bussiness oriented devices available at the moment, so I would like to see more QWERTY based devices.
I know that there are a lot of people want it and we're getting asked all the time.

This whole generation is growing up now with touchscreen only devices, they dont even really understand or know, because they haven't been exposed to what you can do

This is great news!


Edit:
The whole interview will be online tomorrow (Tuesday)

m4r0v3r 2013-05-14 00:47

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I don't understand why people are hating so hard on the compatibility layer eh? Because you know making developers write applications for the N9 worked out for ****ing great didn't it.

Only people who really loved the device stayed with it, while it aged and hardware overtook it quite quickly. Maybe that's because it was a still born thank to Elop. But Jolla unlike Nokia can't afford to this wrong, if they don't gain enough momentum with their release its game over. So it's better for the device to have applications out of the door, rather than them being written from scratch and developers being scarce.

I appreciated the the work that developers put into the N9 I honestly did, cutetube was so much better than its Android Official equivalent. But at the same time, that's one applications that can easily be ported and the users can make a choice what they want to use. If Android applications run well and fast and integrate with no issues people really need to just stop the hate.

onethreealpha 2013-05-14 00:59

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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1343404)
I don't understand why people are hating so hard on the compatibility layer eh? Because you know making developers write applications for the N9 worked out for ****ing great didn't it.

Many devs were unwilling to commit (any) dev time to porting existing Qt based applications for the N9 for a number of reasons, the N9 Stillbirth being one of them. Issues with the Nokia SDK build machine, the absolute SHITE state of the nokia app store and hopeless distribution system, not to mention the wait for payments.....
Add to that, a complete lack of advertising for the platform and absolutely NO incentives by Nokia, and there's why.

It's not a matter of hate for ACL (a few purists excluded) but genuine interest and concern for the means of integration with the core OS and UX, which are all valid.

ACL (like Android Player for BB10) is another tool and provides a little bit of leverage for any fence sitters who may be holding back on purchasing because they can't publicly distribute a photo of some stirfry they bought from a street vendor in Bangkok.....

aironeous 2013-05-14 01:10

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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla

--
As Jolla's Sailfish OS use the Mer core distribution then it can be used with various hardware, like ARM or Intel and many others. It is possible because the Mer core distribution does not contain neither a kernel nor UI, but libraries above kernel and below UI layers. To make a working Linux distribution a specific kernel compatible with a particular hardware and a UI (like Jolla UI in Sailfish) are to be added - this creates the distribution of Linux MeeGo Sailfish OS for particular hardware. Also this allows Sailfish OS with appropriate kernel to work on every hardware. Because of open source basis and rules it can be used by all interested in using of those solutions e.g. to adopt for a particular hardware or any special needs
--

Now I get it!


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