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daperl 2009-01-12 17:14
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Mara (Post 256850)
Hmmm... maybe Bluetooth remote control pod, like Wii remote... so if/when you need hardware buttons just pick that pod in hand and there you go... Great to remote control that MP3-player in pocket while jogging in treadmill...
I love my mac-mini IR remote; throw in some Bluetooth and the 6 buttons could control plenty.

allnameswereout 2009-01-12 17:15
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Benson (Post 256861)
Wrong! It accomplishes something: hiding the delay from starting programs/loading data. This makes users think their device is responding faster. And for consistency's sake, you apply it everywhere, even for those things without substantial delay.

And that's the sort of junk that UI experts specialize in, leading me to conclude that the less UI experts are involved with a project, the more usable it will be.
It indeed gives the user a warm feeling.

It also tells the user the device is still alive, working for the user. A reason why progressbars are useful.

daperl 2009-01-12 17:20
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256859)
I had envisioned a tablet that supports a slide-on sleeve with buttons for gaming. THAT would be my ideal solution. With that approach one form factor (if properly designed) could support infinite configurations.
Oh dude, that's a winner. The sleeve would have an extra primo stand of course.

Johnx 2009-01-12 17:21
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@daperl: What makes you think the next tablet will be closer to a phone than an "MID/MMIT (MultiMedia Internet Thingy"? Many other MIDs are featuring a finger oriented UI and 3G connectivity of some sort. And from where I'm sitting, Fremantle (Maemo 5) looks like a more open system than Diablo/Chinook (Maemo 4). I really don't understand all this doom and gloom just because Nokia wants to make some UI tweaks in their software and add an HSPA modem...

Benson 2009-01-12 17:37
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 256867)
It indeed gives the user a warm feeling.

It also tells the user the device is still alive, working for the user. A reason why progressbars are useful.
But launch feedback is, and has been for years, displayed in non-blocking ways on many other platforms (including progress bars). The only advantage I see for full-screen fixed-duration animations over these is that the non-blocking indicators actually indicate -- they show you that you are waiting for some long operation to complete, and that makes the device feel slower.

When everything has the same lag, and a uniform visual distraction is used as cover, efficiency is lost, but users (especially those who don't know/care what goes on under the hood) will not have a perception that the device is slow.

To me, this is a bad trade-off, as I want to use a device, so reality matters. Manufacturers, alas, have a strong incentive to make this trade, because they want to sell devices, so perception matters.

daperl 2009-01-12 17:37
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Johnx (Post 256869)
@daperl: What makes you think the next tablet will be closer to a phone than an "MID/MMIT (MultiMedia Internet Thingy"? Many other MIDs are featuring a finger oriented UI and 3G connectivity of some sort. And from where I'm sitting, Fremantle (Maemo 5) looks like a more open system than Diablo/Chinook (Maemo 4). I really don't understand all this doom and gloom just because Nokia wants to make some UI tweaks in their software and add an HSPA modem...
Maybe my hardware comments have become noise with all the UI stuff flying around, but I don't care about software. I only care about internal and external hardware offerings. And the press can call the device whatever the f*ck they want. If my hardware requirements are met, I have high confidence that there will be the minimum required software there to support it. I'll take care of the rest. ;)

Texrat 2009-01-12 18:15
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Darn you, qole, I had a reply ready! :D :p

Texrat 2009-01-12 18:32
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 256868)
Oh dude, that's a winner. The sleeve would have an extra primo stand of course.
Possibly. Maybe even an extra SD slot, to pop games in and out.

daperl 2009-01-12 18:53
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256893)
Possibly. Maybe even an extra SD slot, to pop games in and out.
Oh man, don't even start. This is too good. You're derailing the minimal train of thought I already had. Thanks for nothin'.

[huddling] 'Okay, okay. Everybody listen up. A Beagle Board is 3"x3". Texrat, you go left. I'll go right. I'll hit you somewhere down the middle. We'll call it, "Anesidora." Everybody got it? On 4. Ready, break!'

Snoshrk 2009-01-12 18:56
Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 256893)
Possibly. Maybe even an extra SD slot, to pop games in and out.
:) This isn't as big a concern now :) *


*As long the N810 owners keep Craves1 happy then maybe he'd make an upgrade for the N9xx) ;)


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