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Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 313783)

Yes, I can hear Paris talking about being excited for Harmattan now. :)

EDIT: With as popular as the RX-51 seems to be getting, I'm not even sure if I'm being sarcastic anymore.

Ok, so that was a bit over the top, but all I'm saying is that this brave new multi-step, multi-year paradigm shifting experiment has gotten us .. another commodity slider/cam phone.

And a kick-A mobile OS, but will it/can it shine in this hardware?

And I'm still miffed about the prospect of having to pay ~$300 extra for a phone I don't need or want to play with fremantle. Unless I get a carrier contract I don't need or want.

N900p - with cell radio
N900t - no radio. How hard is that?

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313788)

There's a smirk in my mouth somewhere...

You don't want to use the cellular access, don't use it; you don't get the option of not having it in *this* device.

There's a smirk IN your mouth as cellular is OPTIONAL on this new device. :) Need to clear up the semantics to make a proper and convincing argument. Not using it still means I have to pay for it. Pointing me toward the iPod Touch isn't really helping Nokia's bottom line either. I'm just disappointed that they've had an Internet Tablet lineage without the need for expensive and unnecessary wireless technology.. just to spoil it with something I don't want to have to pay for. More importantly, and I will say it again, it could as easily have been a little module--just open the rear panel and plug it in. Simple. Affordable. Future upgrade. And a blissfully simple way to design ONE device to suit both crowds.

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Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313788)

You don't want to use the cellular access, don't use it; you don't get the option of not having it in *this* device.

So why are you arguing so much about this being optional? Clearly, it's not optional.

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Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 313788)

If you can make a convincing enough case for Nokia that there are enough people near-enough to the target audiences of this Maemo 5 device that a non-SIM version would be helpful, I'm pretty sure that they would not only listen, but due to some really interesting positioning as a flexible company on the supply chain, logistics, and regional side of things, be able to move.

As pointed out elsewhere, if you had the million dollar answer.. do you think Nokia would listen? I'm not sure they care to listen to customers and engineers about what would suit the largest number of customers while also maintaining cheaper costs (MODULAR RADIO!).

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by anderbr (Post 313800)

N900p - with cell radio
N900t - no radio. How hard is that?

How about;

RX-51 3.5" with modem
RX-71 5.0" without modem

lol, keep dreaming. :p

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by dansus (Post 313805)

How about;

RX-51 3.5" with modem
RX-71 5.0" without modem

lol, keep dreaming. :p

I'm not sure that you made yourself clear.

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by dansus (Post 313805)

How about;

RX-51 3.5" with modem
RX-71 5.0" without modem

lol, keep dreaming. :p

And the Rx-56 5" without keyboard!

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 313809)

And the Rx-56 5" without keyboard!

What do i get for the RX-69 ?? :D

This is madness, according to an ex-Nokia employee's twitter, there's going to be all sorts of good things announced in September....

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by dansus (Post 313805)

RX-51 3.5" with modem
RX-71 5.0" without modem

Actually this was my last hope. (Only I could live with the larger variant to have the full phone functionality, too. It's not all that bad to be able to put the SIM card in if you want to.)

The N8x0-screen was close to perfect, just a little bit too small. 5" might be it.

OTOH: The whole Fremantle UI is designed around the idea of small screens and restricted use cases. It's made for a phone with twitter and text messaging, not for a portable computer with Abiword, Xchat and Gnumeric. So what use would it be to have a perfect 5", full keyboard, d-pad included,...-hardware running Maemo5?

Imagine those large "menus" on a 5" display. Wouldn't that look strange? And wouldn't you want to use this 5"-device for things that require more complex user interfaces?

Re: First N900 Review

@danramos .... have you seen the thread on co-creation? Nokia is willing to listen to us. Perhaps you can constructively provide your input, and perhaps we'll all be the richer for it!

Re: First N900 Review

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Originally Posted by EIPI (Post 313816)

@danramos .... have you seen the thread on co-creation? Nokia is willing to listen to us. Perhaps you can constructively provide your input, and perhaps we'll all be the richer for it!

I did not see this before! Thanks for pointing it out to me!

Re: First N900 Review

Considering that the RX-51 is the LEAD device for meamo 5, it is safe to assume that there will be many other devices in the future ..... but when and in what varieties is the million dollar question. I wish they do it early, specially since hardware is never a problem with nokia.