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andraeseus1 2010-03-29 16:33
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 584992)
I'm using it too in the US. This I think is a prefetch bug. There are many map folders for the US, Sygic breaks the country down and ID's POI's by region apparently. The region I am in is the Philadelphia Metro Region. For faster searches it must load just the POI's for the region you are currently located. I have seen what you describe when I search for a POI outside my region. However, the POI's are still there.

When I go to "browse map", zoom out, and move the cursor to any part of the country: If I tap the menu button and select "Find nearby POI" It does return all nearby POI's. A search for "Borders" in Oklahoma City took about 15 seconds, but it gave me the Borders on the Northwest expressway there.
I am in Philly TOO!!! i didnt know any other n900's were floating around here. thats awesome!!!

torres76 2010-03-29 17:08
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
I have tried everything with this very bad software to get a good position and smooth arrow even the instructions are wrong, It's telling me to keep right and turn left on a straight road.
All that sygic have told me is that the gps in my n900 is weak and its not the fault of the software i asked for a refund but ha ha no chance so will have too go through card company instead. I can't believe how bad this software is, using ovi maps on my phone is nearly exact maybe no more than 2 metres out but it uses the same gps as sygic in my phone.
Also sygic said they havn't heard of any other problems with the n900 and only one person with an iphone has reported a problem yeah right !!!!!

i will now try and change the ram from 10 to 15 thanks ronaldo shame sygic support arn't as helpful as everyone on here.

Ronaldo 2010-03-29 17:17
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
i'v used this alot and also done tests, for me after doing some settings mod to get the position right its working great for me. quick lock and seems to know where i am.

torres76 2010-03-29 17:19
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by azz (Post 581322)
It keep asking because you have "network positioning" ticked ON. If you don't want it to keep asking you, turn it off via setting>location.
Thats not correct if its turned off it asks you but if its on it doesnt need to ask you !!

torres76 2010-03-29 17:20
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 587043)
i'v used this alot and also done tests, for me after doing some settings mod to get the position right its working great for me. quick lock and seems to know where i am.
can you explain to me what you have done i will copy your settings cheers.

TA-t3 2010-03-29 17:22
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
@torres76: Please use some punctuation, at least if you want more people to read your posts.

Ronaldo 2010-03-29 17:23
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
i didnt read what your actual problem was but here is what i have, hope it helps.


Code:
[Application]
title=Mobile Maps 9
name=Sygic
fps=16.0
memory=autodetect
swVersion=7.71.7763
topMost=true



; Define custom splash screen
splash=mobilemaps
; bacground color of spash screen (hex), defaul = 000000 black
splashBgr=#000000
; If true center image of splash is stretched
CenterStretch=false
; Move center image of splash screen to different position (TL, TR, BL, BL) C = no moving
CenterMove=C


[Default]
com=Integrated GPS,9600
HardwareChange=false
antialias=false
poiVisible=false

[Settings]
showSafetyMsg=false
;DPI=96
DPI=220
;IconSize=3
processing=fribidi
PositionFiltering=false
colorMode=RGB565
showSafetyMsg=false
ResourcePath=/../../Res
MapPath=/../../Maps
NewVolumeSys=false
;MaxSpeed=190
;VolumeFactor=2.0
language=english.lang
languageAsk=true
voice=english
voiceAsk=true
unit=kilometer
unitAsk=true
time=europe
timeAsk=true
coords=degrees
coordsAsk=false
keybList=1
keybListsAsk=false
keybTypeRoman=QWERTY
keybTypeChinese=NONE
keybTypeAsk=false
disableUnKeys=true
disableUnKeysAsk=false

map=Europe.mlm
mapAsk=true
BrowseZoom=45000000
menuCursor=autodetect
RouteComp=enable
keyboard=autodetect
timezone=+00:00_a
hasClock=true
autosync=false
;recommendedRam=15.0

torres76 2010-03-29 17:26
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 587050)
@torres76: Please use some punctuation, at least if you want more people to read your posts.
this isnt an english essay as long as everyone can read it whats the problem ?

i see your ram was set to 15 mine was on 10 could be a very valid reason i will try it.

zehjotkah 2010-03-29 17:32
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by torres76 (Post 587056)
this isnt an english essay as long as everyone can read it whats the problem ?
that everyone need more time to read your posts. and instead of reading it many are skipping it.
so for your own benefit (more readers = more help) you should use at least some punctuation..

torres76 2010-03-29 17:34
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
ok zehjotkah i will listen to you but never been good at writing. THANKS RONALDO I WILL COPY YOURS.

zehjotkah 2010-03-29 17:58
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Nokia to Sygic when they wanted to put Mobile Maps into Ovi Store:

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...ny-request.jpg

stantheboss 2010-03-30 12:33
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by torres76 (Post 587024)
i will now try and change the ram from 10 to 15 thanks ronaldo shame sygic support arn't as helpful as everyone on here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 587051)
i didnt read what your actual problem was but here is what i have, hope it helps.


Code:
[Application]
;recommendedRam=15.0
Well, the line is hashed so this parameter is simply skipped :P

atunguyd 2010-03-31 02:33
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Can someone here answer a question for me about this product?

Does the price include map and application updates?

And if so, when you install it does it add an application repository for software and map updates?

Laughing Man 2010-03-31 02:38
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by atunguyd (Post 589113)
Can someone here answer a question for me about this product?

Does the price include map and application updates?

And if so, when you install it does it add an application repository for software and map updates?
Map updates yes. Application updates, I'm not so sure. I think they said yes (to 10, currently this is 9). But not for Aura (since it's a different map application focused more on social aspects I think)

As for repo and map updates. No it does not add a repo for software and map updates, I guess they plan on distributing it the old fashion way (download from their website). Or maybe through the Ovi repo if Nokia ever fixes the problems associated with the Ovi store.

stantheboss 2010-03-31 08:04
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 589117)
No it does not add a repo for software and map updates...
The repo is here in this very thread, posted by Zdeno, it can be added manually.

zehjotkah 2010-03-31 08:07
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stantheboss (Post 589315)
The repo is here in this very thread, posted by Zdeno, it can be added manually.
no, this repo is offline.
there is only a repo for testers.

Rob1n 2010-03-31 08:13
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 589320)
no, this repo is offline.
there is only a repo for testers.
Offline in what way? The repository is responding and reports as having the mobile-maps-9 .deb file there (though it's not an updated version). I've not actually tried downloading the file though.

zehjotkah 2010-03-31 13:27
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 589326)
Offline in what way? The repository is responding and reports as having the mobile-maps-9 .deb file there (though it's not an updated version). I've not actually tried downloading the file though.
Sorry, I meant offline for updates...

edit: to clarify further: this repo is not used to provide updates.

Rob1n 2010-03-31 14:13
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 589743)
Sorry, I meant offline for updates...

edit: to clarify further: this repo is not used to provide updates.
Is the intention not to use it for updates (when any become available) though? I assumed they'd just not finished developing/testing the updates yet.

Ronaldo 2010-03-31 14:22
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
zehjotkah any ideas when we can expect an update mate?

cheers

zehjotkah 2010-03-31 14:29
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 589868)
Is the intention not to use it for updates (when any become available) though? I assumed they'd just not finished developing/testing the updates yet.
I don't know, if they want to use this repository for updates, but currently it's NOT used for the updates.

dashti 2010-03-31 15:55
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
My Build : 7.71 7782
any new update ?

:D

zehjotkah 2010-03-31 17:13
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dashti (Post 590027)
My Build : 7.71 7782
any new update ?

:D
You can use normal font-size, we will read your post, no worry.
I'm running Version 7.71 | Build 7796 D
And no, you can't have it... ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 589884)
zehjotkah any ideas when we can expect an update mate?

cheers
First to answer the question from the other thread. They're looking into lower the volume of the music from the media player and not pause it. But that isn't so easy.

I'm quoting:

Quote:
Sygic is using pulseadio to playing sounds, and I think, there is possibility to play only one sound at time - you request permissions for playing (what means stop playing other sounds), then you play sound, then you release permissions (other sounds may play).
But as I said, sound playing will be redesign, someday...
What does that mean? Sygic is using pulseaudio to play the sounds, like the mediaplayer. With pulseaudio it isn't possible to play two sounds at one time. (If anyone have a idea, you're VERY welcome). You can test it by open lets say glTron and then open the mediaplayer. Sound from glTron will stop as soon as your music starts. After that test the same thing with glTron and SuperTux. There it is possible because they're using a different system, afaik.

The update should come really soon. The programmer is currently waiting to get the approval to put the new version into the repository.
Therefore I have to correct myself. The repository provided in this thread is meant for updates.

Have fun!

Gheorghe 2010-04-01 00:17
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dashti (Post 590027)
My Build : 7.71 7782
any new update ?

:D
Same version here as well, with Map Version 7.80 and can't find any POI's as others do.

Laughing Man 2010-04-01 03:46
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 590131)
What does that mean? Sygic is using pulseaudio to play the sounds, like the mediaplayer. With pulseaudio it isn't possible to play two sounds at one time. (If anyone have a idea, you're VERY welcome). You can test it by open lets say glTron and then open the mediaplayer. Sound from glTron will stop as soon as your music starts. After that test the same thing with glTron and SuperTux. There it is possible because they're using a different system, afaik.

The update should come really soon. The programmer is currently waiting to get the approval to put the new version into the repository.
Therefore I have to correct myself. The repository provided in this thread is meant for updates.

Have fun!
I think it is possible, it's just Nokia's implementation doesn't allow for it. I believe that's one of PulseAudio's benefits over ALSA. Though I'm afraid I can't help since I don't know much about PA or ALSA (just what I've read).

scouser 2010-04-03 22:23
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
I read the first 10 pages and the last 10 pages. All interesting stuff but so much to read and I cant make sense of it all.

Can anyone please advise is this a good product?
Am I likely to rip my tomtom out and replace it with the n900?
Would someone kindly summarise the problems (if any).
I am in the UK and need detailed european maps with turn by turn, camera points and updates, does this product provide for this?
Anyone tell me the resource usage: on-disk, in-memory, battery drain etc?
What about sound muting between calls?

Sorry if I am in the wrong thread and for all the questions but any guidance would be helpful.

Cheers

azz 2010-04-04 01:26
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
there is a review thread....look for that...it summarize the app in great details...

torres76 2010-04-04 11:10
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scouser (Post 594276)
I read the first 10 pages and the last 10 pages. All interesting stuff but so much to read and I cant make sense of it all.

Can anyone please advise is this a good product?
Am I likely to rip my tomtom out and replace it with the n900?
Would someone kindly summarise the problems (if any).
I am in the UK and need detailed european maps with turn by turn, camera points and updates, does this product provide for this?
Anyone tell me the resource usage: on-disk, in-memory, battery drain etc?
What about sound muting between calls?

Sorry if I am in the wrong thread and for all the questions but any guidance would be helpful.

Cheers
No mate this isn't a good product the map detail is rubbish, my arrow is juddery and about 80m behind where it should be. I have tried everything to sort it out and sygic customer services dont help at all, i just want my money back but they say no.
If you compare the maps to ovi maps there is no comparason ovi maps is totally brilliant, don't waste your money.

rpgAmazon 2010-04-04 11:19
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Ovi maps is totally brillant...LOL, LOL and one more time LOL!

Wich planet come you from?

torres76 2010-04-04 15:55
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 594791)
Ovi maps is totally brillant...LOL, LOL and one more time LOL!

Wich planet come you from?
what is wrong with ovi maps ???

les_garten 2010-04-04 15:56
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by torres76 (Post 595041)
what is wrong with ovi maps ???
It Blows!

Next question...

azz 2010-04-05 13:42
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
depend on what you're looking for, each app has their own advantages and diadvantages....ovi map is great with data but still not as good if you need REAL navigation....took a wrong turn while using ovi map once and it was damn near impossible to ovi to reroute...too a lot of restraining to not toss my phone out the freeway....

Sygic had some minor issues for me but after some modding, it works great now....it completes my phone....:D

Laughing Man 2010-04-07 01:23
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 579523)
Yesterday:
This morning aprox 50 minutes of perfect gps... then opps, app closes. I reopen Sygic, a few minutes of gps, and then apps closes again.
I repeated this "open-minutes of gps ok-autoclose" sequence about 6-7 times. After that, EVERY TIME Sygic locks the sat, it shut down. I can navigate menus (touching screen BEFORE THE LOCK). When going back to main screen, shut down!
When arrived at home this night... IT'S WORKING AGAIN! Now I'm connected (a-gps) using WIFI, and this morning-evening I used 3G.
(yes, I rebooted, disconected gps, 3g, disabled "a"-gps, deleted setting.dat, reinstalled Sygic from rep, restore the menu.ini and changes in settings.ini... ALL BUT NOTHING FIXED until I arrived home and "voila"...
Today:
Second day, same issues. So I try to "emulate" my route... and emulation makes Sygic crash too! So no gps-gprs-wifi-related... UPI's!!! Some extra radar upis I've installed makes Sygic crash (after removing them, all route is working right!)
EXCUSE ME, SYGIC TEAM! IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, I'M GUILTY!!! (when I drive near that .upis pois, it crash... and if I'm far enought, all works fine. Sorry!)
Have you figured out why that UPI made it crash? It's happening to me too so I figured maybe we could find something common.

flydeep 2010-04-07 03:37
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
In the US, my attempts with Sygic have just been okay. I will use it for emergencies but not as a replacement for a gps unit. For starters, the routing algo isn't good. I do not get an option to chose which route (the only way is to go to options and change your hwy/street preferences) I want to take and default one 'sometimes' coincides with the best suggested route of google maps (that's my reference since I have used it many many times and works almost perfectly balancing highway and local roads).

Sygic has to work on their routing algo and also with more user options. Currently there is no way to integrate online search with inbuilt maps. That's what a data enabled gps unit should be progressing toward and not as a replacement for a dumb gps unit.

lma 2010-04-13 13:29
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Version 7.71.1 is in the repository. Changelog:

Quote:
mobile-maps-9 (7.71.1) unstable; urgency=low

* Automatic rotation, fullscreen, gps always enabled
Fixes: zip codes search, Portugal regional settings, gps accuracy

-- Sygic, a.s. <support@sygic.com> Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:42:30 +0100

nokian-series 2010-04-13 13:41
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Sorry for this question, but i've read a lot and im so confused if it is an HW problem or SW problem and if it exist a workarround or not :s

My GPS don't lock, and sometimes it need about 50 mins to lock .. one time..it locked in 2 minuts..but just that time..

Any help directly to this subject please?

Ronaldo 2010-04-13 13:49
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian-series (Post 608553)
Sorry for this question, but i've read a lot and im so confused if it is an HW problem or SW problem and if it exist a workarround or not :s

My GPS don't lock, and sometimes it need about 50 mins to lock .. one time..it locked in 2 minuts..but just that time..

Any help directly to this subject please?
are yiou using internet connection? if you are using agps enabled it will use internet and help lock quicker

samuch 2010-04-13 13:51
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
So, anyone know when we can expect version 10? Still bummed it's only 9 and it wasn't clear on purchase.

nokian-series 2010-04-13 13:57
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 608564)
are yiou using internet connection? if you are using agps enabled it will use internet and help lock quicker
No, i'm only using the GPS to get the signal, dont want to spend € on GPRS connection (ok, if i need the GPRS to get he GPS locked and then i can turn it off..)

So..it a trick or..?
How is the best way to use Sygic only with GPS, but not have to wait ' 2 days' to GPS locks?

Really Thanks.

Netweaver 2010-04-13 13:59
Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
after installing the 7.71.1 version all settings need to be re-entered and all mods re-applied (if need be)

I can't judge the routing quality improvement (if any) nor the GPS tracking/lag improvements as the only thing here moving is my mouse and my hands on my keyboard.
Auto rotation DOES works fine.

No further/new user definable settings I can find/notice in the menus.

Anyone more observations ?


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