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mashah 2010-05-12 08:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
After 1 hour lzma -d debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma completed

on terminal it came back to prompt

no message ?

What should i do next ?

rebhana 2010-05-12 11:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 654774)
After 1 hour lzma -d debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma completed

on terminal it came back to prompt

no message ?

What should i do next ?

That's it then. Just start Easy Debian.

mashah 2010-05-12 12:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 655029)
That's it then. Just start Easy Debian.

What do you mean by start easy debian as there is no such icon ??
any icon like open office or Debain chroot
Please advice

zaoltryence 2010-05-12 14:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 655088)
What do you mean by start easy debian as there is no such icon ??
any icon like open office or Debain chroot
Please advice

click the debian lxde thats what you would want to start it off its that one with the d inside a diamond icon

mashah 2010-05-12 15:18

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
pressed debian lxde diamond icon
throws same error and application crashed

no luck so far

rebhana 2010-05-12 15:39

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 655302)
pressed debian lxde diamond icon
throws same error and application crashed

no luck so far

What does the above "ls -l ..." command give now?

zaoltryence 2010-05-12 16:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 655302)
pressed debian lxde diamond icon
throws same error and application crashed

no luck so far

why not just try to decompress the image file you downloaded on your computer then copy it to the n900, then run debian lxde... these method works for me..

mashah 2010-05-12 16:56

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zaoltryence (Post 655414)
why not just try to decompress the image file you downloaded on your computer then copy it to the n900, then run debian lxde... these method works for me..

i shall try to decmpress the file with7zip
after the decompression where do i store the file and how do i transfer the files ?

also what should i do with present files if i wanna delete it how do i do that

can i copy the extracted files using xp windos explorer or i need anything else

rebhana 2010-05-12 17:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 655426)
i shall try to decmpress the file with7zip
after the decompression where do i store the file and how do i transfer the files ?

also what should i do with present files if i wanna delete it how do i do that

can i copy the extracted files using xp windos explorer or i need anything else

Before you overwrite everything, could you please post the result of "ls -l MyDocs/debian*"?

zaoltryence 2010-05-12 17:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 655426)
i shall try to decmpress the file with7zip
after the decompression where do i store the file and how do i transfer the files ?

also what should i do with present files if i wanna delete it how do i do that

can i copy the extracted files using xp windos explorer or i need anything else

its better for you to delete the file first on your phone, you need to reboot first before you can delete the file

after you decompress the image file on your computer just copy it directly to the n900, dont try to put it on any folders.. then do a reboot after.. thats it, now run the debian lxde should be working fine now

qole 2010-05-12 17:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
mashah:

Please run the red swirl "Debian chroot" icon. Please post the output here.

mashah 2010-05-12 17:05

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 655323)
What does the above "ls -l ..." command give now?

it shows following and 1 large 2gb filee

xrwxrwx 2 user root 65536 Oct 8 2009 Mac OS
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 25 Oct 8 2009 autorun.inf
drwxrwxrwx 3 user root 65536 Oct 8 2009 cities
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 2147483648 Apr 25 07:27 debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2
drwxrwxrwx 2 user root 65536 May 12 12:21 eCoach
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 170 May 11 09:51 extras-devel.install
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 146 May 11 09:52 extras.install
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 146 May 10 10:16 orrery.install
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 159 May 12 12:48 pedometerhomewidget.install
drwxrwxrwx 5 user root 65536 May 6 06:52 qtirreco
-rw-r--r-- 1 user

mashah 2010-05-12 17:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
posted made a seperate entry...

mashah 2010-05-12 18:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 655438)
mashah:

Please run the red swirl "Debian chroot" icon. Please post the output here.

thanks, how do i take screenshot

qole 2010-05-12 18:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
It would be best if you came here with your N900 browser and then copy-and-pasted from the terminal to a post here.

mashah 2010-05-12 19:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
this is what i get qole

debian chroot runs and throws this error before crashing onpressing ok



/home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2 failed to mount on loop0


mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /.debian failed: Device or resource busy

mashah 2010-05-12 19:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 655605)
It would be best if you came here with your N900 browser and then copy-and-pasted from the terminal to a post here.

managed to get screenshots of the error

rebhana 2010-05-12 20:59

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mashah (Post 655439)
-rw-r--r-- 1 user root 2147483648 Apr 25 07:27 debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2

Now that looks OK.

Have you rebooted since you went through all this? That might help to get rid of device busy errors.

qole 2010-05-12 21:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
mashah: I must confess that I don't understand what's wrong.

Maybe the "real" error is happening the first time you try to run Easy Debian, and the error you are showing here is what you get on all subsequent attempts.

So, please try a reboot like rebhana suggested, and then try the red swirl "Debian chroot" again (don't run any other Debian icons first, like the red diamond).

asyik 2010-05-12 21:32

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
mashah: Try click on CLOSE DEBIAN to correctly close the mounted image file (if any). Then check your .chroot file (/home/user/.chroot) to make sure it is setup correctly. Probably your image path is not correctly setup after unsuccessful installations.

mashah 2010-05-13 19:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
thanks all of you for splendid support, got all fixed it started working fine after the restart

openoffice works fine
will keep posted if any error is noticed


my personal feedback from dummies point of view

while decompressing lzme file if you get a call or reminder or by any chance process isl stopped one lands into situation where i was

best way is some mechanism to avoid breaking the decompression

thanks anyway

dbrodie 2010-05-14 10:42

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Does anyone know if there are supposed to be issues when running abiword? OpenOffice and gnumeric work fine, but when I run abiword I get a blank screen. strace reveals that abiword is stuck on some lock (futex), and just stays there...

DrSteve 2010-05-14 17:58

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbrodie (Post 658126)
Does anyone know if there are supposed to be issues when running abiword? OpenOffice and gnumeric work fine, but when I run abiword I get a blank screen. strace reveals that abiword is stuck on some lock (futex), and just stays there...

I think you have to enable squeeze repositories, get Abiword from those, and then roll back to lenny. I got the same blank screen as you, so you're not crazy.

DrSteve 2010-05-14 18:02

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
See kolos' reported fix here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=547

asyik 2010-05-14 21:53

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
From Easy Debian Wiki page

Quote:

Q: How do I get the virtual keyboard to pop up in Debian Apps?
A: DIABLO/N8x0: Select the "Set Debian HW Keys" menu item; wait a bit, then you can press the minus (-) hardware key followed by the menu hardware key to toggle the Matchbox Keyboard. Press the (-) key then the (+) key to toggle between normal and mini (one-line) keyboards.
A: FREMANTLE/N900: There is no virtual keyboard in Maemo for Debian apps.
Is it possible to install this virtual keyboard on n900.

In Diablo, i used this keyboard a lot.

Sometimes I need to run kde programs directly from x terminal using debbie <packagename> such as kchmviewer. I have a problem to enter a search string because n900 keyboard does not work for kchmviewer in maemo.

Note: I am aware that kchmviewer is available for maemo5 but some of its features are missing plus it cannot open some chm ebooks.

new_bee 2010-05-15 04:57

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
hi, i clicked on hide panel when not in use and my minimse settings were to low. now my desktop panel on lxde is un accessablle as my mouse pointer can not reach or click the panel. can any one help me to restor the settings. thanks

qole 2010-05-15 06:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
asyik: Try the same keyboard hack we use for LXDE for kchmviewer: press the power key and then press the screen outside the power menu, see if the keyboard works then.

new_bee: you will probably have to edit the file:
.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/panel or .config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/top

yokeloonlo 2010-05-15 07:08

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
i have tried using deb img install to download the debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma. And at the end of very very long period of download time, it shows download error said the file is damaged, and asked me to download again or keep the damaged file. I tried download the 2nd time, and at the end is the same error message. appreciate if you can help.

yokeloonlo 2010-05-15 07:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
hi, I tried to use deb img installer to install the debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma. at the end it shows error message the file may be damaged and asked me to either to download again or keep the damaged file. i tried 2nd time it give the same error. can i know what is the solution.

asyik 2010-05-15 09:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yokeloonlo (Post 659316)
hi, I tried to use deb img installer to install the debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma. at the end it shows error message the file may be damaged and asked me to either to download again or keep the damaged file. i tried 2nd time it give the same error. can i know what is the solution.

I think i had this same issue before. What i did was I deleted .chroot config file (home/user/.chroot) and run the installer again.

see this post here
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...090#post537090

asyik 2010-05-15 10:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
qole: That keyboard hack always work if I run kchmviewer from Easy Debian LXDE but not if I run it through terminal. Is it program related?

rebhana 2010-05-15 12:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asyik (Post 659381)
I think i had this same issue before. What i did was I deleted .chroot config file (home/user/.chroot) and run the installer again.

I don't see how deleting .chroot should help. If you do, you'll also have to re-install easy-deb-chroot.

An alternative to install the image is to download on a PC and transfer the file e.g. through USB. See the wiki.

qole 2010-05-15 14:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I agree with rebhana, try downloading with a PC and then moving the file to your N900. Don't delete the .chroot file, it has important stuff in it.

marmota 2010-05-15 16:55

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 652000)
It's probably too late for you now, but untarring the image you have been working with would have preserved all your additional installs.

Thank you, I finally understood what you meant with untar. And it is not too late as I hadn't time to play with the size of the image.

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 652708)
I'm sorry I haven't been around much... Things remain stressful here in Qole's World :(

I have some instructions on copying the contents of your image file into a dedicated partition in a couple of places. If you don't mind starting fresh, I have a recent post in the Diablo thread about how to dump a rootfs tarball into a partition. (You need to type tar instead of gtar, but otherwise they're the same on the N900).

The instructions for dumping the file system from your image to a partition are also around here somewhere; I'll try to find them...

I really need to make that into a wiki page...

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 652723)
Found it. Read this post and the update following it.

Thank you very much for that! I will try it next days and post back the results.

rebhana 2010-05-15 20:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I noticed that Debian has an updated OpenOffice 3.2.0 version for amel: 1:3.2.0-9 with some armel-specific updates ("fix the ARM EABI bridges", whatever that means). I've upgraded to that (with sid enabled) through
Code:

apt-get install openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-style-crystal openoffice.org-style-galaxy openoffice.org-style-hicontrast openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-emailmerge
(installing all of openoffice.org would use up some 100MB more) and it seems to work fine, although I didn't notice any difference from 3.2.0-8, which was called "brown paper bag release" (whatever that means).

qole, perhaps this would now be a good point in time for v4a? :rolleyes:

Another suggestion for a new image: include
Code:

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free

in $CHROOT/etc/apt/sources.list.

asyik 2010-05-15 21:14

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 659530)
I don't see how deleting .chroot should help. If you do, you'll also have to re-install easy-deb-chroot

This is what i mean. Delete and reinstall easy deb and easy-deb-chroot again.

rebhana 2010-05-15 21:32

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asyik (Post 660032)
This is what i mean. Delete and reinstall easy deb and easy-deb-chroot again.

Then you should get exactly what you had before, if you explicitly de-install easy-deb-chroot and re-install. But even then you don't have to delete .chroot. To start the Debian image installation from scratch, it's sufficient to delete /home/user/MyDocs/debian* and run the Deb Img Install icon anew.

dbrodie 2010-05-15 22:00

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSteve (Post 658689)

Thanks alot, that did the trick!
Though that needed to update gconf, which is problematic right?

rebhana 2010-05-16 08:28

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbrodie (Post 660075)
Though that needed to update gconf, which is problematic right?

Have you noticed any breakages from upgrading gconf2?

I have followed your example and also installed abiword, as well as the newer version of gnumeric from squeeze, thus upgrading gconf2 in the process. Everything works fine as far as I can see.

The only trouble I had was that the top panel in LXDE needed to be restored, but I don't know whether that had anything to do with the upgrade, since lxde wasn't upgraded.

For some reason the manual recreation of the top panel changed the icon for the menu that qole had provided. Since I didn't know how to fix that manually, I ended up restoring the directory /home/user/.config/lxpanel from a backup that I had made fortunately at one point.

So my recommendation for anybody playing around with similar upgrades is to backup their Debian image as well as /home/user/.config. At least the latter doesn't cost much space.

EDIT: Meanwhile I noticed some breakages from upgrading gconf2. Evince starts with an error saying that its configuration was broken. So I de-installed abiword, and reverted back to gconf2 from lenny, which was a bit messy. For the record, I had to do
Code:

apt-get install abiword- gnumeric-
dpkg --force-depends -r gconf2 gconf2-common libgconf2-4

then changed /etc/apt/sources.list to point to lenny and no longer squeeze, then
Code:

apt-get install gconf2
apt-get -f install
apt-get autoremove
apt-get install gnumeric

(gnumeric is de-installed and re-installed, because it was giving problems with the de- and re-installation of gconf2.)

mscion 2010-05-17 03:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I was wondering if anyone has had success using easy debian
with bluetooth? Say for wireless printers, keyboard or projectors.


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