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Try the Message Send option on Email or none. As for the silence are you using a profile manager? What happens with:- Code:
dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.profiled /com/nokia/profiled com.nokia.profiled.get_profile @yablacky One question I'd like to ask is why does SMSCON send your password to your master number when you change it. I can understand a message to say the password was changed... but actually sending the password to the master number is a potential security risk, surely? Just found this out the hard way. AFAIR this is not made clear in the wiki's eithier. |
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UPDATE: The silencing function does not prevent the sms alert sound of the very first sms command because phone alerts before smscon has chance to silence. Silence applies to all further sms being received. |
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If you use the same SSH code as SMSCON from first installation then both codes are compromised. IMO, I don't like it when anything sends my password's back to me in plain text, I know what it is I don't want the world to know. Email's like this I delete instantly. This caught me more by surpise when my friend (master number) texted my password to me, two minutes after changing it! I have never used the silence on first message option, any dbus I have used was in a script and worked fine. Thanks for the fix. It also makes sense that the first message will notify then the phone will be silent. I forgot about that. |
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A user could simply de-install, purge and re-install smscon-editor. In this case the password is reset to the default and therefore compromised from the beginning. A user even could simply de-install smscon to get rid of all remote controlling. The security concepts of maemo are designed to protect the user from internet, not to protect the phone from user. And smscon does not claim to change that. In fact nothing and nobody can. Even companies like apple or google with closed devices concepts from the start can't prevent that experienced users root the phone. Once you are root, nothing is secure. Except crypted data of which password is not on phone. Quote:
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when smscon editor will be updated?
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When the Time will come. You will see four riders of elopcalypse riding sky, so don't worry, you won't have chance to miss it.
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Thanks yablacky!
That works things out fine for my usage case. I understand it's impossible to silence (only) the first SMS, can though live with that; Anybody with a suggestion to delete (only valid!) received SMS by Software or a script after reception by smscon? i.e. "delete anything which starts with COM_PREFIX" from sms-inbox Michael P.S.: Again: great tool, I love it though since now I used it only for the non-existant case of loosing it, it can do much more for me now ;) |
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That would be really cool, though I know I "abuse" smscon somehow (in this case for smarthome-automation but it's a very nice thing..)
And (deleting received SMS-commands) makes also sense in terms of security somehow.. Michael |
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smscon 0.10.6-1 has been queued for loading into fremantle extras-devel repository.
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Release of SMSCON Editor 0.10.6-1 in extras-devel
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yablacky, while idea of using IMSI as an de-facto key for truecrypt - isn't it offering too low security? It's numbers only - I don't have hard data with me, but bruteforcing it would be orders of magnitude easier, than any TrueCrypt password should be - yep?
Isn't it becoming security through obscurity (i.e. relying on fact, that attacker doesn't know - usually - way used to deliver password from PIN and IMSI)? Take this with grain of salt, as I don't know details yet :) /Estel |
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I tried a lot to access other data on the SIM which requires PIN, e.g. the address book. This could provide more bits to the key. I just had no success yet to query the SIM phone book programmatically :( Has anybody tried this successfully? It could help a lot. On the other hand, some may find that 50 bits are enough for their data on the phone. The usual thief or finder would not try to crack it brute force. Those having real sensitive data should of course not protect data using a 15 digit number... |
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I agree, that it may be enough for thing like private photos or content of addressbook. Other things may be encrypted in a way, that it isn't auto-mounted on boot.
But, I fail to understand, how it helps us to avoid need for lock code kicking in every 5, 15, or 30 minutes? If we have our device in use without lock code auto-lock feature, thief can access our encrypted data, because it's mounted on boot, anyway. OTOH, if we use auto-lock code, we can't use smsCON after reboot. That was the deal. I'm too slow, or it is not this stage yet? /Estel |
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Any chance this awsome app would be ported to N9(50) someday? I may really miss it someday if my N9 get lost/stolen. :/
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Having more than 15 digits as a truecrypt password is a MUST though. It is way too easy to brute force and anyone could find instructions on the web by asking. Having other info from SIM card behind PIN code is good idea in that case to increase the password length. Of course three letter agencies, police, operators and those have no problem finding out your IMSI. Can IMSI be retrieved and SIM-card opened by hacking somehow maybe? Actually there is only 10000 keys to brute force, but normally SIM-card gets locked down after 3 wrong PIN-code attempts. btw, is there any reason why smscon password has to be in plain text anywhere? |
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IMSI can be easily found with appropriate hardware (SIM card reader) and programs, but only if you have PIN.
Read for example here: http://www.mfi-training.com/forum/paper/SIM&Salsa.pdf I know it because once I was interested in SIM cloning. |
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Those having data on their N900 that must be hidden against "three letter agencies" :cool: in all and every case should not use the planned feature using IMSI or other data on SIM. A SIM is protected by a 4 digit PIN only and can even be retrieved by specialists. For max security, you have to mount your truecrypt partitions manually by entering a strong 78 letter password (for hard to crack 512 bits) key by key. Don't forget the device lock code which protects access to already mounted truecrypt data. Not sure if it can be more than 5 digits. Would need 155 digits for 512 bits. Do not assume brute force trying of device lock codes could not be automated by specialists. |
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As far as I know :D, there's no way to clone newest SIM cards (and for "newest" I mean the ones produced about in the last 10 years).
The problem is just you can't extract Ki neither with brute-force, you just burn your SIM card. I spent some times reading some documentation, so I'm pretty sure about it. Of course, I guess investigative agencies have no problem to obtain all they need directly from the operator. :o |
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As for automating brute force of lock code, it's interesting idea. Lock code is trivial to break (DES), but only, if You have access to root filesystem, which *shouldn't* be possible without rebooting, if already presented with lock code prompt. When prompted, every 2 wrong attempts there is delay, that increases in 3th attempt, then disappear for next 2 attempts, and so goes on, in circle. Both delays are customizable (don't remember where, but it is easy to find it, IIRC). Honestly, I can't think of any way, that would allow "3 letter agencies" and their specialists to retrieve lock code/unlock, without causing reboot (messing with flash storage content directly, without device in middle, should definitely cause reboot, and it's far from achievable, without de-soldering One NAND or cutting motherboard and doing extra-precise connections to certain paths itself, without harming other paths). If anyone have sensible ideas, it's worth to discuss them in Truecrypt thread :) --- yablacky, it's great to hear, that You've managed to move lock code prompt! May I ask, what are current pitfails about? Maybe someone will be able to help overcome them? /Estel |
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When locking the phone using this method Phone_control#Security_Device_Lock_with_lockcode the power button won't get disabled. When pressing it, the corresponding menu is still shown. Most available options do not work, fortunately. But "Offline Mode" can be enabled. This counteracted the whole story because it disconnects the phone from networks. Does anybody have an idea how to disable power-button menu as well? |
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Oh my, I remember hitting this bug when I've exploited putting device into "deepest sleep" via button in power menu key (with auto off-line mode and locking via code, just before putting it into freeze). Unfortunately, never found a way to overcome it. I guess it's high time time for really smashing this obstacle - will investigate.
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Possible solution could be:
(1) When locking the phone, the undesired menu items (Flight mode/Telephone - they must be known in advance) can be disabled explicitly. On regular unlock they would have to be enabled again automatically. (2) When locking the phone, replace the complete power-button menu by one that contains desired items only (e.g . Power-off/Reboot). This also has to be undone automatically on regular unlock. The 2nd solution would apply to custom entries as well, which usually do fancy things which should not be available while phone is locked. |
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The solution is much easier :D. There is a different way to activate device lock which does also disabled the power button. I will add this info to Phone_control pages.
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Thanks a lot! It was bugging me for months, and I never found solution.
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smscon 0.10.9-1 has been queued for loading into fremantle extras-devel repository
Solved TrueCrypt dilemma: Remotely control the phone after reboot even if device lock is active! New options to lock and unlock the device depending on validness of SIM card and PIN code. Changelog en detail:
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Also smscon-editor 0.10.9-4 that suits smscon 0.10.9-1 is available in fremantle extras-devel repository.
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Release of SMSCON Editor 0.10.9-4 in extras-devel
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Sorry for the late announcement. In a couple of weeks when I get some more time I will try to review the main window once more, since both yablacky and me think it can be improved. For the time being, my focus was more on the new functionality he brought with the latest SMSCON. |
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Absolutely awesome, thank You!
Will test extensively in first bigger batch of free time, and report back. |
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hahaha do you remember Estel when i said
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BTW thanks for the updates guys, i was waiting for that for a looooooooooong time. |
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Having issue with SMSCON, I had to reflash combined on my N900.
I had the current "stable" SMSCON package installed. After my reflash I let HAM/Backup App reinstall all my applcations, not releasing Devel was enabled. I opened up SMSCON it took the default password, I changed the password and reinput all the settings. Now I can't enter SMSCON the password shows incorrect everytime. I have tried re-installing both "stable" and "devel" version and the password is showing incorrect. Is there a way to restart SMSCON from scratch? |
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Open a shell terminal, become root. Then enter this command: Code:
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Needed root. Thanks.
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