maemo.org - Talk - The EPIC N9 anticipation thread

I can't really see what he is trying to hint! I've dug up some old photos of the N9 prototype and everything looks the same to me. Here take a look:

http://www.symbiantweet.com/leaked-n...embly-pictures

It's hard to tell really just how thin this device is. Sometimes it looks really thin and sometimes it looks just tad bit thinner than the n900.

the N9 Logo on the left side of the keyboard is missing :)

imo the only similar thing between the old and the new version is the aluminium body. all other things have been updated

Creamy Goodness

2011-05-19 21:08

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

he's not hinting anything, he's shown two pictures that prove the video contains two devices. that's why he said he can't hint or it will give it away. too obvious. that's my guess anyways. I bet he doesn't want to get in trouble so he won't confirm anything like that too quick.

-edit-
okay i watched the video again, the keyboard part is sharp edged and the back is rounded, I think the phone is actually fairly thick, it's just hard to see with the camera angles. But it looks like it's just one device again now. Even the camera module looks the same. So the thing I thought was a speaker is just the writing for the camera.

tissot

2011-05-19 21:09

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010450)

the N9 Logo on the left side of the keyboard is missing :)

imo the only similar thing between the old and the new version is the aluminium body. all other things have been updated

Like going from 1320 battery to 1200mah. :p

Brock

2011-05-19 21:10

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1010279)

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmee...34246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

same device, other point of view, thats it

Brock

2011-05-19 21:12

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1010452)

Like going from 1320 battery to 1200mah. :p

i am still waiting for the (rumored) 1600mAh battery... you guys remember how many polygons it should be able to handle... ;)

keflex

2011-05-19 21:14

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

To be honest, he could be hinting that the phone has a removable back. The E7 did not have this functionality.

Brock

2011-05-19 21:15

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 1010456)

To be honest, he could be hinting that the phone has a removable back. The E7 did not have this functionality.

then one picture would be enough, but yes, it has a removable back

msnbcnnbcbs

2011-05-19 21:15

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

educated guess: the keyboard device is the developer version that was rejected by the carriers because of the flimsiness issue a while back. this one will probably be handed out at the conference. the keyboardless (newer) version is the one that will be sold to the masses.

and if this is correct: do both phones have the same hardware, seeing as one was developed later than the other?

Brock

2011-05-19 21:17

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

thats what we all want to know ;)

dtergens

2011-05-19 21:20

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

I know, the two holes area is for the 3ghz cpu cooler xD

Edit : seriously after making a big zoom on the back, imho it seems to be like a slide button to open the screen exactly like the one we have on the right side of the N900 :)

Andrew_b

2011-05-19 21:28

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1010122)

Just thought I would share a picture...

http://meetmeego.org/wp-content/uplo...omparision.png

Okay, so it's a deliberately obvious cut and paste and I've been working backwards through the thread this evening, but you're showing us xterm here, right?

sevla

2011-05-19 21:29

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtergens (Post 1010465)

I know, the two holes area is for the 3ghz cpu cooler xD

i call bs.

it's obviously an extra sensory perception receiver... i.e. Telepathy.

So all you have to do is think it and your phones does it.

Why do you think the phone ships with TELEPATHY libs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm a genius...

maxximuscool

2011-05-19 21:32

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010445)

they could use the 12mp cam for augmented reality, why using extra hardware for it? for me it looks like something like a speaker grill or something like that

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...922h58m33.png/

I doubt it. AG on Nokia device lol... If you want a good AG then you have to either get an Android or Apple.

Pillum

2011-05-19 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew_b (Post 1010466)

Okay, so it's a deliberately obvious cut and paste and I've been working backwards through the thread this evening, but you're showing us xterm here, right?

the upper one is n9 and the lower one with xterm is n900

NvyUs

2011-05-19 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 1010468)

I doubt it. AG on Nokia device lol... If you want a good AG then you have to either get an Android or Apple.

Really! see the google link I posted a preinstalled app is an Augmented reality browser

Pillum

2011-05-19 21:44

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

it is this one: http://www.layar.com/

Brock

2011-05-19 21:52

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

augmented reality is a software thing and just needs a cam... and i dont think that this thing on the backside has anything to do with augmented reality.

Brock

2011-05-19 21:55

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew_b (Post 1010466)

Okay, so it's a deliberately obvious cut and paste and I've been working backwards through the thread this evening, but you're showing us xterm here, right?

backwards? bad idea... work faster ;)

dtergens

2011-05-19 22:03

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Like I said in my previous post, it really seems to be like the same slide button to open/close the screen like the one on the right of the N900, is it ?:confused:

Edit : ok zehtjokah you win, I'm going to bed without the good answer ^^

patlak

2011-05-19 22:46

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010482)

augmented reality is a software thing and just needs a cam... and i dont think that this thing on the backside has anything to do with augmented reality.

Maybe it's an iSheep sensor ;)

The two photos seem to represent different devices. Is it possible that one is more camera oriented and features a sensor with optical zoom, hence the chubbiness? :D

sony123

2011-05-19 22:49

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Well the difference in shape is pretty obvious, N950 has squeeze control. :D

The Wizard of Huz

2011-05-19 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1010279)

2 devices. Both are not the same device.

brandonc

2011-05-19 22:59

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Ive been thinking it must be two devices...I keep watching the teaser and I feel like im looking at two after a while.
what ever happened to this guy...maybe he got a little reworked
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/15/n...n8-aesthetics/

NvyUs

2011-05-19 23:04

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonc (Post 1010522)

I prefer the recent Concept Nokia filed a patent for
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/04/no...in-patent-app/

kralde

2011-05-19 23:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

The original video uploaded by pocketnow has been deleted due a reclamation of copyright by Nokia.
Seems that nokia dislike that the video is online :P

AndyNokia232

2011-05-19 23:40

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonc (Post 1010522)

Said it before, sayin it again: I think we're getting a brother and sister act like the N8 and E7. They both pretty much look the same, except one gets the fancy camera, the other gets the keyboard. They both get S^3 (poor buggers!) We will discover next week or so that that sales strategy worked well, and they're doing it again. A touchscreen only (let's call it N9) and a qwerty version (call it the N950). Both totally awesome but slightly different hardware.

Also notice the shot (very quick) of the on-screen keyboard. Why show that? Ah yes, because that's the N8-y one being shown off.

I hope I'm right, only because it will be a sales winner for our friendly old uncle Nokia :)

zb88	2011-05-19 23:50

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did anyone checked this link? http://www.neonode.com/neonode-signs...em-customer-2/

maybe it's Nokia, who've signed the license agreement... hmm?

Helmuth

2011-05-20 00:20

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Okay, in my Opinion we have enought pages speculated about this weird sensor, speaker grill or 3D camera. I will solve this now for you:

What you can see here...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_W...erspeakerc.jpg

...is simply the SCREW you need to release to remove the backcover!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_l07vVnBw3l8/TG...20%289%29.jpeg

Everyone disappointed as I am? :) Fine... :rolleyes:
And now, please hit the Thanks button and move on with the next level of this game. ;)

chase15

2011-05-20 00:26

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so you still need screw driver just to get baterry off?? r just to change sim card? that sux...

jakiman

2011-05-20 00:35

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I don' get it.

That photo just shows me:
1. Volume control on side
2. LED flashlight (small circle)
3. Camera lense (largesquare/circle)

What's so intriguing about that photo???

Frappacino

2011-05-20 00:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1009323)

If there was I way say thanks twice I would do it. Couldnt say it better myself :-)

The only way to hold a corporation to account in the marketplace is not to buy their products.

Continual support of Nokia if you are not happy with its products is just silly.

If you want to support FOSS and Meego then buy Meego phones from other companies - i.e. LG releasing some phones I believe.

Of course if the hardware is good enough for you then just get this phone, but dont expect people to "forget" how we were treated.

And Yes I believe all Nokia bashing is fully justified - their past behavior is indefensible, and as a consumer the only power you have to reprimand them is NOT to buy their products.

sjgadsby

2011-05-20 00:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1010579)

What's so intriguing about that photo???

Dude, look at the shadows. They prove the moon landing was faked!

dtergens

2011-05-20 00:45

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

i bet that visible screw were only for the prototype.
i'm more and more sure now that they decided to put the open/close screen slide button at this part of the device to make it better accessible than the N900 one.
if it the case, I like this but hope we have to lock/unlock by a down press much practice than a up press for me. :-)

Fresh Prince of Nowhere

2011-05-20 00:46

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 1010577)

so you still need screw driver just to get baterry off?? r just to change sim card? that sux...

For the E7 I think you put the sim card into the side right? They might implement this with the N9. It sucks that you need to unscrew for the battery tho.

Frappacino

2011-05-20 00:47

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

This is exactly how I feel - the only reason I consider this is the potentially good hardware/design and the fact that there is nothing else out there other then droid I would consider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 1009395)

I think you totally failed to see the connection between "a few months too late" and "February 9th" there.

What I do know is:
- there won't be a stylus,
- the screen is going to be capacitive, with no support of pressure levels,
- Nokia R&D is cut and the MeeGo part will be further reduced once this device is out,
- it'll start at a recommended £400 or higher,
- support will be **** poor, because Nokia is firing everybody and even today Maemo support is considered to be lacking,
- there'll be no in-brand upgrade path within a 12 months life cycle.

There's a lots of cons, though
+ it's going to be a full OS where all competition use sandboxes or trimmed down OSs.

That's an important Pro, isn't it? Let's see what LG comes up with.
I think Intel should come out with Intel branded, HTC built devices. Like everybody else.

jakiman

2011-05-20 00:51

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1010585)

Dude, look at the shadows. They prove the moon landing was faked!

I'm also a believer that it was fake. But I hope this N9 isn't. :p

Faustino

2011-05-20 00:53

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

Why is everyone so sure the N9 will use an omap chip?

Was it not common knowledge that Intel had won the contract for the N9.. including the Atom 1.2GHz

Whatever they're using it's fast.. very fast.. you guys should stop worrying :)

gryedouge

2011-05-20 01:02

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Just to add some more fuel to the fire

http://www.solidblogger.com/nokia-n9...hone-features/

gerbick

2011-05-20 01:19

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?

That article says miniUSB... not microUSB. Dunno.

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