maemo.org - Talk - JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones

They've said for ages now that large chunks of that layer will be closed so they can license their flavour of Sailfish.
But, hopefully many of the most central/heavily_used apps will be kept in the open flavour of Nemo/Sailfish...

Then they have to update the license of silica because in the SDK its still BSD license.(Yes I know its not only silica that makes the UI but...

Well, but BSD license basically says you can take it and do whatever you want, right?
With BSD license you can open up everything, but you could also keep it fully closed.

mikecomputing

2013-10-05 21:07

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1378843)

Well, but BSD license basically says you can take it and do whatever you want, right?
With BSD license you can open up everything, but you could also keep it fully closed.

Yes, I see no problem with that license type.

In Jollas case it would be plain stupid to closed source it because its already open. If Jolla decided to close it people would fork current code.

So there is no point for them to do that. But if thirdparty company decide to fork and closed source the changes its up to them because the license works that way. Its same issue with Qt except Qt is using dual license.

But I still wonder what bussines plan Jolla really has? I doubt they'r idea to sell SailfishOS licenses will work for others. Especially if all apps would be open sourced.. Simply because the tech industry still is scared using opensource. Some actually got scared away from Qt also it seems :(

Thats probadly why Jolla using BSD instead of LGPL2.1. Atleast they may get little better chance to get more companys intrested. But I do think silica will be dual licensed later on. Just let them release device first.

jalyst

2013-10-06 03:03

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Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1378826)

You mean beat timewise, right? All I've seen from Tizen is that it's a very poor copy of iOS... if anything, the user experience is pretty simple in the lacking way. Or are you aware of any demonstration that is a little bit more compelling than what I've seen?

Time-wise.
They're playing it very safe/boring, there's some WP influences, Android, & iOS, little that looks truly original/novel.

danramos

2013-10-06 05:30

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1378882)

Time-wise.
They're playing it very safe/boring, there's some WP influences, Android, & iOS, little that looks truly original/novel.

Being original and novel for the sake of being original and novel isn't any good. It also has to be productive and intuitive.

Sometimes being "original/novel" can equate with being non-intuitive and non-productive. Take Windows 8 itself, for example. It's so "original" and "novel" that it's not very intuitive (particularly when it's hard to find settings, applications or menus and you can't tell what's clickable and what's just a label) and not productive (particularly where overlapping windows are actually very, very productive for work and multitasking.. worse still is when you switch tasks without intending it with the trackpad and have a hell of a time getting back).

If Jolla is picking out the best features for everyone else, that sounds like a hybrid people might LIKE. I have no problem with that.

jalyst

2013-10-06 05:40

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I wasn't suggesting that....
And I also wasn't suggesting they've got all the great/original ideas.
They're drawing inspiration from lots of quarters too...
But inspiration mostly, outright carbon copying, less so than others.

FWIW, I actually like the Win_8/RT & WP UX's in many respects.
But I get that many people don't, & the reasons they don't...
I disagree that they're bad UX's, but there's no doubt they're polarising.
Ofc, all that is completely off-topic here....

Dave999

2013-10-06 08:53

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I was planning to post something great, original and novel. But you might not understand. Don't ignore OS for the sake of it. The winter is coming...

Akkumaru

2013-10-06 10:28

the winter is coming...that's why we have Jolla beanies!

Dave999

2013-10-06 11:44

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Well, I don't get one. ****ing jolla :(

rcolistete

2013-10-06 18:54

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones

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Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1378724)

What it comes to multitasking, I find it hard to accept Jolla could claim to have the best multitasking experience, compared to Note3 for example.

It is hard to accept someone saying Android "multitasking" is better than anything... worse, in a Maemo forum, where we are used to live multitasking on Maemo 5 and MeeGo Harmattan.

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Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1378724)

I could just have Fedora LXDE installed with chroot.

Using VNC server & client to access the GUI of Fedora LXDE ? Fantastic experience...

danramos

2013-10-07 11:48

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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1379027)

It is hard to accept someone saying Android "multitasking" is better than anything... worse, in a Maemo forum, where we are used to live multitasking on Maemo 5 and MeeGo Harmattan.

Then it might be necessary for you to get over your brand loyalty and understand it better.

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