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hqh 2010-08-10 13:06

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
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Originally Posted by slender (Post 781538)
Weird i canīt upgrade to newest version.

ohmmm..no itīs not the newest version (0.6.2). It still shows fapman as upgradable but iīm not able to upgrade. This is weird.

It takes a while for the autobuilder to upload the latest version to the repository (I hope it's not stuck again). Edit: It seems to be there

Also, see my reply to the previous poster who had an update problem - you might be encountering exactly the same bug that the latest version will fix :)
Edit: here is the workaround:
If you're not able to do the update with fapman itself, enable the autoremove option from the settings as a workaround. You can disable the option again if you wish after updating to 0.6.3.

cjp 2010-08-10 19:40

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
I haven't used the FapMan for a couple of version numbers until now, and I must say that it is moving forward in leaps and bounds.

Thank you again for this lifesaver app! Go out and get yourself a pint on me. o/

hqh 2010-08-11 09:29

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
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Originally Posted by cjp (Post 781968)
Go out and get yourself a pint on me. o/

Thank you, I will :D

slender 2010-08-11 09:52

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
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Iīm just fiddling around with UI layout and trying to maximize used pixels.

How about something like on attached picture.
- popup window title with app name and icon (app name currently two times)
- static area on right side so that there is more space for text, but on the other side it probably doesnīt wrap always so nicely.

.edit
Bug:
- Remove buttons right side not rounded.

..edit
- Static area should be right side and popup title
- Also for some reason i like how areas are divided in DropN900 with white line: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3589544/Drop...nshot-main.png
- And place to look for icons: http://openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/

ivgalvez 2010-08-11 10:18

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hqh (Post 781495)
Thanks, I've found a bug :)
The autorotation is what Qt gives you... You can disable it in the options.

I suspected that.

Anyway it's amazing how fast you have been able to achieve such a complete package manager for Maemo in Qt while we have been waiting for years (still waiting to see Muon) for a decent package manager for KDE Debian based distros.

And talking about Muon, are you using the libQApt whis is in development for Kubuntu or directly wrapping apt-get and dpkg commands?

slender 2010-08-11 10:36

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Just pondering here.

I can understand that upgrading apps on N900 takes a little bit time, but installing/searching them N900 has to first update package list (~5-9Mb stuff..IMO weird), then read it and show it.

So is it possible to make it:
- Use maemo.org/packages search
- Show results in list
- When user chooses packages and pushes go app downloads just debs and sends them to apt-get

So does it still need to upgrade catalogs for ALL aps before installing stuff for just one app? Because using server as search machine makes everything working as fast as stuff comes instantly from server side.

Honza. 2010-08-11 12:06

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Can I turn off automatic updating of catalogs?
When I want to install application, it updates catalogs. So why we have button "update catalogs" when it upading automaticaly? I have slow connetion, constant updating tiring me and I must use basic app man.

hqh 2010-08-11 12:49

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 782747)
How about something like on attached picture.
- popup window title with app name and icon (app name currently two times)
- static area on right side so that there is more space for text, but on the other side it probably doesnīt wrap always so nicely.

Thanks! The buttons-on-the-right approach has one fatal flaw though: It does not work well for portrait mode. I guess it would be possible to make separate UIs (for that dialog) for landscape and portrait modes though.

The app name appears two times because the other is the package name and the other is the "display name". They can be different if the package has maemo-display-name defined, and I think it's important to show both.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 782781)
And talking about Muon, are you using the libQApt whis is in development for Kubuntu or directly wrapping apt-get and dpkg commands?

I'm directly using the apt-get binary. Sure this approach has its flaws (I guess error handling for example could be done more elegantly with libraries...) but it seems to work well enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 782796)
So is it possible to make it:
- Use maemo.org/packages search
- Show results in list
- When user chooses packages and pushes go app downloads just debs and sends them to apt-get

So does it still need to upgrade catalogs for ALL aps before installing stuff for just one app? Because using server as search machine makes everything working as fast as stuff comes instantly from server side.

This sounds like an idea for a completely different application...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honza. (Post 782871)
Can I turn off automatic updating of catalogs?
When I want to install application, it updates catalogs. So why we have button "update catalogs" when it upading automaticaly? I have slow connetion, constant updating tiring me and I must use basic app man.

If by "constant" you mean every day (they are auto-updated if older than 24h) then that's intentional and cannot be currently turned off. If they get updated *every* time you install, then it's a bug. The button is there if you wish to update more often to check for new updates/applications. I could add an option to turn auto-updating off, but having old catalogs means you won't see new applications/updates and will also lead to errors if the older versions have been removed from the repositories.

Rob1n 2010-08-11 15:09

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 782796)
Just pondering here.

I can understand that upgrading apps on N900 takes a little bit time, but installing/searching them N900 has to first update package list (~5-9Mb stuff..IMO weird), then read it and show it.

So is it possible to make it:
- Use maemo.org/packages search
- Show results in list
- When user chooses packages and pushes go app downloads just debs and sends them to apt-get

So does it still need to upgrade catalogs for ALL aps before installing stuff for just one app? Because using server as search machine makes everything working as fast as stuff comes instantly from server side.

I don't think apt-get can deal with .deb files directly. And even if it could, you're likely to run into dependency issues if your package list isn't up-to-date with the package you're installing.

liquid_chaos 2010-08-11 17:33

Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
i cant seem to find this by looking for fapman. i just lost all my application catalogues somehow so i just installed extras_devel and its not seeing it only synaptic manager can someone help?


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