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You haven't.

I've never seen a *promise* from Nokia, just an estimated shipping date *once* and early.

Whining will not make it ship earlier.
OTOH, whining will frustrate Nokia people who in the future will refrain from giving us inside news, will become pissed and will push for beeing less open in the future.

I know this happens, because I was in the same position Nokia is, few years ago. (Trying to be open and transparent to the community of users of my service, and getting pissed off due to whiners)

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It's on Nokia Finland's web shop, and has been for some time.

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Been there , done that ..

But I do understand the problem of the whole thing, there is just so much anyone can do about a ship in the middle of the ocean or a plane or I don't know. Basically it's nobody's fault. So harrassing phone support serves no purpose. Been in the other end of those phonecalls, and thats no fun.

This thread serves as a vent if you will.. Get the steam out , among likeminded. What beats me is why people are reading this thread if its just anoying and irritating.. There are plenty of other threads that does not concern n900 delays..

sorry for the engrish.. not my native language ..

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Just a guess: Nokia's own outsourced web shop cannot for some reason to ship those pre-orders before the end of this week or the start of next week so Nokia has denied distributors to deliver N900s to other retailers and web shop before those pre-orders have been shipped.

Re: OPK: N900 deliveries have now started!!
 

This , you know nothing about , and yes , I have ...

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Or maybe Nokia should learn how to systematically communicate information to its customers instead of relying on the "tolerance" of particular individuals to engage the community.

I find it weird that so many people here see information from Nokia about the product as being a privilege rather than their right as a consumer. You are the one paying for their products and if you want more information you should demand more information, not roll over and say thank you for whatever scraps you're thrown.

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Isn't it signal to noise ratio? :)

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It's all about balance.

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Well said :):)

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So basically, you and a lot of the people on this thread listened to the retailers dates and totally ignored Nokia. Nokia said Q3, then delay, then shipping on 10th. I just dont see the big deal. Why oh why you listen and believe the retailers (they WANT your order so will very readily make up dates to get your cash) I have no idea.

People need to use their brains a bit in this thread.

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hmmm.. you just proved that you are just another fanatic, sorry.

my reply totally wasn't to you! it was primary to oneliner "nokia is ****" or something like that.... plus those "i'll cancel my preorder omg" and "why didn't they ship my device with a teleport from the factory?!?!?" -comments...

e: and to end this conversation: I preordered 15 minutes after the preorder was possible in the first place. and i've told the same FCUKKING STORY SINCE TO ALL YOU WHINY ARSES: SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP! or cancel preorder and go away. the whine doesn't help anybody...

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Maybe its because it was UK Nokia retail dealers/outlets that were stating deivery date of 9/11 then 16/11 then 19/11 and now saying Nokia sen them an email saying its delayed with no news of a release date. Nice move Nokia.

If I shouldn't listen to a Nokia dealer because only Nokia head office know the truth then thats a pretty sad state for Nokia and their main dealers to be in.

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Right and the way to restore that balance is for Nokia to release more information. Well actually there is one other way - for people to lose interest in the product and buy something else.

Some are acting like like the annoyance over delays and lack of information is purely a phenomenon of this forum and that it can be controlled here. It's happening everywhere the N900 is being discussed because people literally cannot believe there's no retail date and as they look into it more they find a wide spread of dates stretching into 2010.

So people will either complain about the lack of information or buy something else. What they're not going to do is realign their expectations according to what Nokia has decided to provide which appears to be what several people here are calling for.

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I was amazed to see the webchat link there myself it's been ages since I've seen it (or sucessfully used it when the link is there!).

I just happened to be going to check my order status, and saw the lin kand clicked it quickly! lol.

Got lucky (or unlucky, depending on which way you spin it!)

To all those with sensible heads on saying to be patient, as has been said by many, it's not so much the wait (though I want my N900 now!!) it's the lack of info and communication that's annoying most of us. To be told it'd be shipped 16th Nov, and be arriving today, then to hear NOTHING on the 16th, is really annoying!

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You mean that the shop you bought from charged your credit card in advance?

Where did you buy it?

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I find it weird that all the people are putting down their anger *HERE* at the maemo.org community site. Nobody here can do anything about Nokia shipping faster - nobody here makes or distributes the phones.

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Elkjop norway charged me mid-october ..

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November 27th
November 27th
November 27th

how many times do i have to say it...after reading the last 10 pages of desperate posts? lol

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What makes you so sure nov 27th is the correct date ?

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and why in the hell did you allready pay for your preorder?!?

the device is about 10 days late.

FYI: the devices are made somewhere, packaged and shipped. so there is a delay. it is normal. N900s doesn't come from north poles magic factories and teleport straight to your pocket..

i've argued a month now with those "nokia has lied to us!!" -fanatics that take a blog note "it will be released xx.xx." as a promise from nokia.

and now when nokia has officially announced that devices has allready been shipped from the factory and it is less than 2 weeks and most of you will have the device - the announcement calmed people for 5 seconds. soon after that the fanatism continued.

now I'm thinking about stop being a greeter and just tell you to piss off when you ask something here after the devices has been shipped. or then I could stay a greeter, keep improving wiki etc and help you with your devices later. but it means you all need to return a favour to me and stop being stupid.

I'm just pissed off because this torrent of stupidity that gets worse day by day.....

no offense to any people speculating delivery dates, all offense to the people who say "nokia has betrayed us!!!, they dont give us enough info!!!!"....

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I called a few Best Buys in my area last night (Atlanta metro), and only one store showed them in inventory ready for local store distribution. Just to be sure I called two more. The other two stores showed that the item had been deleted from their inventory. Sure enough if you go to Best Buy's site and search for it, the results come back with nothing.

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Been on webchat myself today with MPD and got the same answer. Delayed till the end of the month with no exact date yet.

One entry in the diary today, simply...............................

Bugger! (In a Capt Blackadder stylee )

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People are expressing their anger on twitter as well, on blogs, in forum comments everywhere. There is nothing unusual about the discourse here it's a reflection of what people are saying about the product.

If, like me, you want Nokia to survive as a competitor to Android and the iPhone you should be asking why Nokia cannot do this one simple thing rather than why people should just shut up about it.

Imagine how many posts simply wouldn't exist if after the summit where they handed out 300 units Nokia issued a press release saying "We don't expect the N900 to be available at retail until November 25th" (or whenever). That's a full 5 or 6 weeks in which people would be talking about how they're looking forward to the product coming out instead of "What's happening? Where is it? What did newegg say today? Who wants to ring MPD?".

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Please read carefully the first rows of the nokia press release

The title is misleading, but the content is clear: the device ships in november, so until 1st of december they are not late.

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The preorder payment came as a surprise to me , thats apparently the way elkjop does it. If that makes me stupid so be it.

Of course I could cancel and get a refound , but as we have established earlier , everybody wants this phone, so why bother.

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I'm with you here!!! considering no one will ship during the weekend in Swe.... so week 49 seems more likely to me and it makes sense!

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Given the fact it has been one week since the press release and nobody has recieved their device yet and that Nokia Czech states 27th as the shipping/retail date. It's in 10days, makes sense to me imho.

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Jesus just because something doesn't bother you then no-one else can have a view of it. And the in comes the abuse and swearing, very articulate... if you're a so called self proclaimed Maemo Greeter then the OS is in a bad way if that's your idea of open source collaboration.

Finally, who is more stupid the person who moans about something, or the person who wades through what has obviously become a moaning thread in which every post annoys him... are you the sort that smashes up your telly when something you don't like is on... just let people speak and if you don't like it don't read it or maybe try a different thread.

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Hello maemo.org - noob here.

I too have been waiting for the n900 with growing impatience. I do sympathise with the people who are getting frustrated with waiting for this device due to the inconsistency in information from Nokia themselves.

When i visited the flagship store in London a couple of weeks ago I was able to have a quick play with the only n900 they had in store, and loved it immediately. ( The camera is amazing for a start! ) The first member of staff i asked about a release date told me January 2010!

The second member of staff told me 16th of November.

I think its this kind of differentiation in information that seems unprofessional and misleading and inevitably makes people lose faith in what are a huge, well established company. They are certainly well established enough to be able to roll out a product with less drama than has concerned the n900.

It makes one wonder if its all part of the marketing strategy..? Create some mystery, get the forums buzzing, create some kind of must-have fever that ends up being less about the device and more about the hype.

That does nothing for me. I want DATES. Solid DATES, so I can not be checking this and other forums every 5 minutes. That is obviously a choice I have, and if Im stupid enough to be wasting my life in this way ( which I definitely am! ) then I probably deserve the frustration that comes with that. However, a couple of rock-solid press statements here and there, or even a bloody twitter, might quell my impatience somewhat.

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Here here. THIS THREAD IS FOR MOANERS, GEEKS & WHITTLERS . Everyone who doesn't like it, ...k off. :p (oo we are all getting agitated aren't we now?)

Stemfour- you hit the nail on the head.

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well if you get the dates, ask lottery numbers for all lotteries in the world and give me a few....

e: and I can give you a date:

30.1.2010. I am 99,9% certain all n900s preordered has been sent then. Happy?

or:
30.9.2009. Happy?

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Nokia Store Finland has told me for weeks, that the delivery starts at week 48. Today they stated that they will release the pre-orders on 20.-23.11 in their systems and our cards will be charged, so be sure to have enough funds. Here is the link to the statement (in Finnish):
http://www.matkapuhelininfo.com/kesk...&postcount=171

So we will be getting our phones next week! I hope to get it on tuesday (maybe monday if Im lucky), cause I took the express delivery...

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I am very eager for the N900, though these thread's provide a great deal of entertainment in awaiting this darn'd phone.

I have been speaking to the Camberley branch of MPD and the word i heard was that this morning MPD branches received email confirmation that the N900 will not be available until the end of November from them.

This does not answer queries about other e/re-tailers but it does allow me to be a little more paitent...about my choosen distributor.

Sparky.

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I love this site. You may all be my imaginary friends but it's just like real life.

We came here for the N900 info etc. That's been delayed and now we're turning on each other because we can't take out our frustration on anyone else.

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lol, yeah it's pretty funny. anticipation has turned into mania.

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i have a question here (hence a little OT then):

if i place my order today - what are the chances that i will get the unit after all the people who have pre-ordered it say in the next 20 days?

or basically i will be looking at a delivery in 2010 instead?

thank you.

Re: OPK: N900 deliveries have now started!!
 

Depends who you order with - who are you thinking of buying it from?

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naw, thinking of buying from an online shop in Germany, or Amazon.de if the price is good.

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Its very possible - you'd think Nokia have shipped large numbers of phones. Dont listen to these idiots in this thread. The phones shipped on the 10th, and will be available to retailers on general release up to 2 weeks after that date.

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so, it is good to be stupid if other are too? just go with the flow if you want but don't critisize my writings just by that fact...

this thread wasn't intended for moaning. it was intended for reports n900s arriving to people. this was started soon after the official announcement that n900s has been shipped. but now, the torrent of stupidity and moaning has again ruined another thread.

n900 shipping delayed would be better thread for now, don't you think?