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BLIZZARD

2010-05-17 10:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Why some apps i install, dont show up in the menu? Is there any way to find them so i can run them from there?

BLIZZARD

2010-05-18 04:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

is it possible to install compiler via easy debian on n900. i want g++ so i can compile mini programs that i write everywhere i go, with my n900.

ArchiMark

2010-05-18 13:16

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLIZZARD (Post 663453)

is it possible to install compiler via easy debian on n900. i want g++ so i can compile mini programs that i write everywhere i go, with my n900.

Yes, I did it.....installed gcc g++....if I remember correctly, I may have had to update my sources list to get it ....

You can try 'apt-get install gcc g++' and see if it finds it to install. If not, then update sources list to add debian lenny (?) to get it....

BLIZZARD

2010-05-18 15:54

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArchiMark (Post 664107)

i intalled it via synaptic but i cant find it on the menu, do you know how to find it and run it?

qole	2010-05-18 17:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

BLIZZARD: I don't think that compilers have menu items, since they are command-line apps.

BLIZZARD

2010-05-18 18:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i cant find it either on command line. i will reinstall it and try again

BLIZZARD

2010-05-18 18:32

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

ArchiMark: can you tell me how you use it? i write g++-4.1 /path/
and then it says me "file not recognized: File format not recognized collect2: ld ruturned 1 exit status"

ArchiMark

2010-05-18 19:25

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLIZZARD (Post 664618)

ArchiMark: can you tell me how you use it? i write g++-4.1 /path/
and then it says me "file not recognized: File format not recognized collect2: ld ruturned 1 exit status"

FYI.....I installed this a few weeks ago and just compiled one app from sources, so, just did:

Code:

# ./configure

# make

# make install

I had to reflash the other day, so, I need to re-install gcc g++ again....

titan

2010-05-19 17:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

The latest power user kernel (kernel-power-flasher) v34 in extras-devel includes a fix for the MMC code.
I wonder whether it could fix the sometimes very long decompression times of the easydebian image.
Please let me know if it helps.

fw190

2010-05-19 19:02

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I've installed a Polish keyboard layout for the hardware keyboard so while holding fn and ctrl i can type óćął etc. It works perfectly in openoffice when I open it via the icon in app manager but when I open it from debian it doesn't work. Is it supposed to be this way? How can I fix it?

rebhana

2010-05-19 19:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 666507)

Have you edited /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and chosen a Polish keyboard by

Code:

@setxkbmap pl

as explained in the wiki?

fw190

2010-05-19 21:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I've checked the file and the line was there but I forgot to add @ in front of the line. So I did it but still it doesn't work. I'll try to reeboot. does this make a difference that I've got a modified rx-51 file?

hstende

2010-05-19 21:49

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

fw190. Have you tried to run synchroot from rootshell after mounting easy debian and edited the file? I had to do that to get my "dano" keyboard working in lxde.

qole	2010-05-19 21:55

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

fw190: Perhaps you can also try "sudo synchroot" (once you have opened your chroot) to see if copying your custom keyboard file into Debian will help.

EDIT: Got distracted while posting, and I got beaten to the punch by hstende! Nice surprise! :)

fw190

2010-05-19 22:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

after typing sudo synchroot in debian chroot it pops out: command not found

bimbim

2010-05-19 22:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

fw190 in X Terminal not in debian chroot.

qole	2010-05-19 22:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

fw190: no, you type sudo synchroot in Maemo not in Debian... Sorry I wasn't clear...

EDIT: My reflexes suck today. Nice to see such help from the community. :)

rebhana

2010-05-20 06:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Interesting! Under what circumstances can one expect to have to run synchroot manually? When does it actually run automatically? On first chroot?

fw190

2010-05-20 06:56

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I had to get some sleep :) after typing it in xterm I get: syching chroot... and nothing hapens. I'll try to reboot.

Hahahahha after rebooting it works. You are great You know? I don't have to install evince or fbreader in maemo. I just have them in debian. It saves rootfs and gives me new oportunities!!! Hahahahhahah I just can't say how much I admire Your work. This whole linux thing is black magic for me but thanks to You I can do wha other people using Iphones and other BB, HTC just simply can't. THANKS qole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rebhana

2010-05-20 11:22

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 667125)

Hahahahha after rebooting it works. You are great You know? I don't have to install evince or fbreader in maemo. I just have them in debian. It saves rootfs and gives me new oportunities!!! Hahahahhahah I just can't say how much I admire Your work. This whole linux thing is black magic for me but thanks to You I can do wha other people using Iphones and other BB, HTC just simply can't. THANKS qole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, indeed, Easy Debian is the single most useful app for the N900! It's strictly white magic, though!

From the wiki: If you feel overwhelmed by gratitude towards qole for bringing a full-fledged Debian OS to your device, consider donating at qole.org.

fw190

2010-05-20 12:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I was wondering how much space do I have for installing apps?

bimbim

2010-05-20 12:42

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 667566)

I was wondering how much space do I have for installing apps?

If I'm remembering right, I had something about 700-800 MB of free space after doing localepurge (see the wiki).

BLIZZARD

2010-05-20 13:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Does anyone knows a GUI compiler (for c++) like dev-c++ which i can install via synaptic? i tried g++-4.1 but i didnt make it.

mankir

2010-05-20 13:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLIZZARD (Post 667710)

Does anyone knows a GUI compiler (for c++) like dev-c++ which i can install via synaptic? i tried g++-4.1 but i didnt make it.

maybe Anjuta or Code::Blocks

BLIZZARD

2010-05-20 13:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mankir (Post 667714)

maybe Anjuta or Code::Blocks

thanks i will try them

rebhana

2010-05-20 15:40

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 667566)

I was wondering how much space do I have for installing apps?

That you see when you type "df" in the Debian chroot terminal.

When you install lots of stuff from the command-line, you should do "apt-get clean" regularly to free some space.

Davey101

2010-05-20 16:25

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 640138)

I have also installed gnumeric and a desktop file under .local and it does work, even when I give a nonexistent icon as in your above posting. Let's check whether you've really done what you say. What do you get when you type in

Code:

cat /home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon/gnumeric.desktop

That should be now

Code:

[Desktop Entry]

Version=1.0

Encoding=UTF-8

Name=gnumeric

Icon=gnumeric

Exec=debbie gnumeric

Type=Application

That should give a gnumeric app with a blank (blue) icon in the application manager (once you've rebooted, as I already said). If you replace the icon by an existing one, like ooo-calc (the ending .png is omitted) you should also have a special icon, but even without it works for me.

If still no - perhaps you haven't installed gnumeric yet? :p
That is most easily done with the Debian chroot terminal app (red swirl icon), by typing in

Code:

apt-get update

apt-get install gnumeric

apt-get clean

Hello, I'm having a similar problem on my N900. When I create .desktop files in the /home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon directory they don't appear in my app list anywhere. That is, they are not in the task launcher or the list of shortcuts to add to the desktop. I've run the cat command and the file contents display correctly.

When I instead put them in /usr/share/applications/hildon then they do appear and can be added to my desktop but they don't do anything, even though "debbie gnumeric" does work in the terminal. :(

Can anyone help? I've described the problem more in this thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40223

rebhana

2010-05-20 17:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey101 (Post 667955)

If putting .desktop files in /home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon don't show up even after a reboot, that could mean that you don't have PR1.1 yet. Could that be?

But /usr/share/applications/hildon should work at any rate. Could you post the exact content of your desktop file? I have a gnumeric.desktop file reading

Code:

[Desktop Entry]

Version=1.0

Encoding=UTF-8

Name=gnumeric

Icon=ooo-calc

Exec=debbie gnumeric

Type=Application

qole	2010-05-20 17:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Aha, I've heard that the UK never got PR1.1 for some reason... Maybe that's Davey101's problem for the ~/.local/share/applications/hildon files...

Davey101

2010-05-20 17:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi, thanks for the reply! Yes I am running PR1.1 but it's the UK Vodafone variant. I've been waiting (and waiting) for PR1.2 to come along before re-flashing with generic. :)

Having gone out and come back to the problem, I've made the following discoveries:

1) Items in /home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon are showing up in the task launcher, at the bottom, but not in the 'Add Shortcut' list -- even after a reboot. I thought they were also missing from the task launcher but I've just become too accustomed to Catorise putting things in alphabetical order.

2) Items in /usr/share/applications/hildon are appearing in both lists and are now working on the desktop!!! :)

I don't know why they are suddenly working. It is possible I was doing something stupid that is now unreproducible...

mscion

2010-05-21 05:08

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Something strange happens when I use the xvkbd in Debian's
Accessories. If I touch a letter with the stylus and then lift the stylus up, the letter continues to print as if the key is being held down.

Any idea how to fix this?

rebhana

2010-05-21 21:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 668744)

I had this question several months ago myself. The answer is here. I'll add that to the wiki.

rebhana

2010-05-22 10:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@qole: some pages ago I had some questions about synchroot that I still haven't figured out: What is the role of synchroot? Is it run automatically on each first chroot or only by the installer or only when the image is produced? Do I need to run it manually when something is changed in Maemo like the rx-51?

EDIT: If I understand correctly, synchroot is run only the very first time. So I guess manual re-installs and also modifications on something like the rx-51 should be followed by

Code:

sudo closechroot

touch /home/user/.synchroot

eitama

2010-05-23 08:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi,

I just installed "easy debian" 2 days ago, Install went smooth, I decompressed the files on my PC with 7zip (added reference to 7zip in the wiki) and copied over sftp.

Now, LXDE starts fine, but I am having such an annoying problem.
I tried searching "power search" and flipping through this 128 page thread, but didn't find the solution, also looked in the wiki.
The problem is that LXDE starts, and the hardware keyboard doesn't work, I tried :
- Pressing the power button and then outside, doesn't work.
- Starting "fix lxde hw kbd" which work for a few seconds and then, for some unknown reason, the whole LXDE is zoomed out into the Maemo 5 task manager view (where you see all your open apps as if I pressed control + backspace).
I only have LXDE running. I tried rebooting the phone, running the fix again, same thing happens.

Driving me crazy ):
Any ideas?

Besides that I am a fond of TCL/TK scripting language, it installed easily through synaptic and I managed to run a few stuff on it flawless!

eitama

2010-05-23 12:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Bump ): Bump ): Bump ): Bump ): Bump ): Bump ): 10 chars?

rebhana

2010-05-23 16:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 671333)

- Pressing the power button and then outside, doesn't work.
- Starting "fix lxde hw kbd" which work for a few seconds and then, for some unknown reason, the whole LXDE is zoomed out into the Maemo 5 task manager view (where you see all your open apps as if I pressed control + backspace).
I only have LXDE running. I tried rebooting the phone, running the fix again, same thing happens.

AFAIK, you're the first with such a problem. I guess something nonstandard that you've installed is interfering. Perhaps shortcutd or a similar app? In fact, I have shortcutd running without problems, but I also have only very few things configured in shortcutd.

eitama

2010-05-23 16:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 671856)

Yep I have shortcutd too, but only the camera button is configured, and I swear I didn't touch it (;

oblique

2010-05-23 19:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

hello..i was trying to install the package build-essential and i got this:

Code:

[root@deb-m5v3d: ~]apt-get install build-essential

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

or been moved out of Incoming.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:



The following packages have unmet dependencies:

  build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or

                            libc-dev

                   Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.3.1) but it is not going to be installed

E: Broken packages

i tried to fix it with this without success

Code:

apt-get clean all

apt-get update

apt-get install build-essential

any suggestions?

oblique

2010-05-23 19:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i found the solution in page 103 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1030

rebhana

2010-05-23 21:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I encountered some glitches with xvkbd+xbindkeys that I don't fully understand. Perhaps somebody can educate me:

For example an entry

Code:

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[percent]"" 

 Shift+Mod5 + d

in .xbindkeysrc and activated by "debbie xbindkeys" does not produce the % character when I press Fn+Shift+d. Except for F1-F12, escape, and tab, only the characters that I anyway have on my (rx51-tailored) hw keyboard seem to work. (synchroot didn't help btw.)

However, when I start LXDE, open a terminal there, do

Code:

killall xbindkeys

xbindkeys

it does work (but only there, not outside of LXDE). It also doesn't work with "@xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeysrc" in the autostart file. :confused:

By the way, I found a way to take advantage of the virtual keyboard from within debbie applications. Backing out to the Maemo XTerminal, I produce a special character with the virtual keyboard there, copy the character, and can then paste it in the debbie application when the latter has a paste menu item. Fortunately, I need that only rarely because of my suitably remapped hw keyboard. But I would definitely prefer a more elegant solution.

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