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nielsvg 2010-02-18 22:13

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
[QUOTE=noobmonkey;535443]
Quote:

Originally Posted by nielsvg (Post 535438)

hmmmm not sure on the battery yet, as i am hammering it, but overall the device seems a little smoother, and web browsing is a bit better. not much change otherwise for me :)


then i will wait, little off topic but i can't change my themes anymore but in the original topic they all suggest to flash but after your good arguments i don't want to do this

Ceejay 2010-02-18 22:13

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by starman (Post 535356)
the wait for the uk update is nowt to do with vodafone, seems to be a regional delay

I still can't get my head around the fact that the UK has it's own firmware version for unbranded/unlocked phones? WhyOhWhyOhWhy?!

Unless there is a very good reason (and I really can't think of ANY) then clearly UK users will always be disadvantaged as out of all the defined areas it is the smallest by a mile, and will of course get the least development effort.

The fact that no-bodies talking about what could possibly be in a UK firmware just makes me more suspicious :eek:

nielsvg 2010-02-18 22:15

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceejay (Post 535452)
I still can't get my head around the fact that the UK has it's own firmware version for unbranded/unlocked phones? WhyOhWhyOhWhy?!

Unless there is a very good reason (and I really can't think of ANY) then clearly UK users will always be disadvantaged as out of all the defined areas it is the smallest by a mile, and will of course get the least development effort.

The fact that no-bodies talking about what could possibly be in a UK firmware just makes me more suspicious :eek:

i'm using a uk-phone in belgium and belgium is must smaller and not so computer minded for a n900 but already had his firmware update.

i think i'd better bought a belgian phone:)lol

Rob1n 2010-02-18 22:15

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceejay (Post 535452)
I still can't get my head around the fact that the UK has it's own firmware version for unbranded/unlocked phones? WhyOhWhyOhWhy?!

Ask Nokia. I don't know why there's more than one version of the firmware at all - nobody seems to have found a difference between them yet.

yorg 2010-02-18 22:28

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Nokia should release a firmware that does nothing but only make it available to everywhere but the UK

that would be a laugh :)

oh wait!

Texrat 2010-02-18 22:31

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Ah, stupid me-- I do have a European variant. Maybe I need to manually reflash a US image to see the update...

fred123 2010-02-18 22:41

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
I was very concerned when my n900, supplied by expansys uk, was delivered with USA firmware as I live in UK.

I am now thinhking it might be a good thing, as I updated the day it was released OTA.

sherifsabry1 2010-02-18 22:46

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
PLZZZZZZ i need help. i've already downloaded it but i couldn't find any changes then i read some ppl posting that i must use the maemo flasher is this right? as i've downloaded it thru the application manager... and i feel that using maemo flasher is a bit difficult

Fargus 2010-02-18 22:57

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherifsabry1 (Post 535514)
PLZZZZZZ i need help. i've already downloaded it but i couldn't find any changes then i read some ppl posting that i must use the maemo flasher is this right? as i've downloaded it thru the application manager... and i feel that using maemo flasher is a bit difficult

It's one OR the other. If it arrived via update in app manager and you ran the update then you have got the update OTA. The option of using the flasher is for those not getting the update in app manager.

noobmonkey 2010-02-18 23:04

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 535488)
Ah, stupid me-- I do have a European variant. Maybe I need to manually reflash a US image to see the update...

maybe? lol..


You could pretend to be English for a few weeks and learn what it is like to be like us.....

On second thoughts....... ;)

ammadtira 2010-02-18 23:12

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Can anyone please tell me what is the latest version of Maemo right now.. Mine is
3.2010.02-8.003

is this latest.. Please check

noobmonkey 2010-02-18 23:15

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ammadtira (Post 535557)
Can anyone please tell me what is the latest version of Maemo right now.. Mine is
3.2010.02-8.003

is this latest.. Please check

yes yours is the latest....

You could have:
  • Searched the forums
  • Read this post..
  • Checked the wiki

Now for your homework you need to try each of these and report back with how to do it for other users :)

ammadtira 2010-02-18 23:21

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 535563)
yes yours is the latest....

You could have:
  • Searched the forums
  • Read this post..
  • Checked the wiki

Now for your homework you need to try each of these and report back with how to do it for other users :)

Dear Teacher,

Thanks alot for informing... Whts ur fees?? lolz

The homework is very difficult bcz u didnt guide how to do..

Searching the forums was supposed to b a long.. No need of a kind teacher like you if you have to search in forums.. But i read the first or second page of this forum and they write there as .002 instead of .003 so i asked...

How to check Wiki, I dont know. Good teacher please tell??

I read this post and so got aware that this is latest..
thanks sir

yours obediently,,


NoobLion... lolx

fraaaaanka 2010-02-18 23:26

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 535461)
Ask Nokia. I don't know why there's more than one version of the firmware at all - nobody seems to have found a difference between them yet.

łk firmware has GPS spy tracking installed as per government/big brother regulations.

you are being watched!

noobmonkey 2010-02-18 23:32

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ammadtira (Post 535576)
Dear Teacher,

Thanks alot for informing... Whts ur fees?? lolz

The homework is very difficult bcz u didnt guide how to do..

Searching the forums was supposed to b a long.. No need of a kind teacher like you if you have to search in forums.. But i read the first or second page of this forum and they write there as .002 instead of .003 so i asked...

How to check Wiki, I dont know. Good teacher please tell??

I read this post and so got aware that this is latest..
thanks sir

yours obediently,,


NoobLion... lolx

lol....
well good point on the last number....

Your options are as follows:
1) Search the forums - self explaintory :)

2) Wiki - http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page
- Wiki search for firmware - http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Search...firmware&go=Go
(For some odd reason the wiki is under community on the top menu bar)

- First link takes you to the "How to update firmware page" - http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware - in there you can find the following:

"Download the latest firmware (.bin) file"

Ok, looooong way, but took me 2 mins to find and read...

Go visit that link, and it will tell you the latest firmware that your imei / phone can handle :)

Joe_H 2010-02-19 00:07

Re: New firmware? Maemo 5 update 3.2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 533118)
A few people have reported this happening - you'll need to reflash the firmware, and possibly the eMMC as well.

Thanks Rob. It worked after flashing the eMMC.

It took me several hours to repair the damage and I really didn't need that.

Regards.

Fargus 2010-02-19 00:44

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fraaaaanka (Post 535583)
łk firmware has GPS spy tracking installed as per government/big brother regulations.

you are being watched!

However the data will be put on the usual set of CD's and mailed to the wrong person so no h done! lol :D

Actually wasn't it the US government that mandated all new handset had GPS transmission under the pretext of helping emergency services?

UNderworld 2010-02-19 00:56

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *Sonic* (Post 535248)
I cant read 122 pages, but has this been released on Voda UK yet ? nothing has appearred in the updates ?

u just had to read the previous page ...... but its still NO...

UNderworld 2010-02-19 01:06

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 535683)
Actually wasn't it the US government that mandated all new handset had GPS transmission under the pretext of helping emergency services?

It wouldve helped the emergency services more if they actually put some GPS receiver on every citizen's head... and some sensor their organs to see if they are performing properly or not...
U wouldnt even need to call 112 / 999 / 911 .... the ambulance will b at ur door even before u realise somethings wrong with u..:D:D

sxc 2010-02-19 01:11

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Still nothing here UK generic (203)...

I hate to state the bl****** obvious but this is clearly another area where Nokia trails behind the competition - never had any issue whatsoever upgrading the OS on my iTouch (after I'd paid Apple's fees that is but then, I was at least getting some fairly major new functionality for my bucks)...

How hard can this be??? And it's not like the UK is a minor market for Nokia is it?

And indeed, as reported by many here, the issues I had in getting proper UK updates for my N95 in the days made me think very hard about jumping ship...

Wes79 2010-02-19 01:19

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
sxc - check my post on page 116. Nokia have said there is an issue wit sending the update OTA and they are merging the minor update with the major one at the end of feb/beginning of march. more info on page 116 :)

smegheadz 2010-02-19 04:31

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
finally reached the fecking end of this topic... i'm wrecked!

with regards to differences in firmware regions i know that different countries have different rules for wifi/fm/gsm etc, so i'd say the uk firmware is down to a set of rules which apply specificly in the uk but not in europe, maybe the fm transmitter or something. it's a pity there's nothing on the wiki about the firmware regional differences.

tomchiverton 2010-02-19 05:26

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orcocan (Post 532945)
no UK update for me either...

If you go to the Nokia download site directly at http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php there isn't a UK build of the new firmware yet, so I guess there's no point checking on the phone itself :-)

Rob1n 2010-02-19 09:17

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 535993)
If you go to the Nokia download site directly at http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php there isn't a UK build of the new firmware yet, so I guess there's no point checking on the phone itself :-)

Yes, but there isn't a UK build of the previous 2 firmware updates either, but they are both available on the phone.

Rob1n 2010-02-19 09:19

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smegheadz (Post 535953)
with regards to differences in firmware regions i know that different countries have different rules for wifi/fm/gsm etc, so i'd say the uk firmware is down to a set of rules which apply specificly in the uk but not in europe, maybe the fm transmitter or something.

There's different rules throughout Europe though, so there must be some way to tweak the settings based on location already,

hhadrian 2010-02-19 10:12

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
does the itouch(iphone) update ota,or connected to a pc have never been sure of the answer,but there are things i believe you cannot do ota on them,am i right in saying that the n900 is the first device that can be used without the need to connect to a pc at all,maybe thats true of android phones aswell

noobmonkey 2010-02-19 10:14

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hhadrian (Post 536250)
does the itouch(iphone) update ota,or connected to a pc have never been sure of the answer,but there are things i believe you cannot do ota on them,am i right in saying that the n900 is the first device that can be used without the need to connect to a pc at all,maybe thats true of android phones aswell

Not technically connected my n900 to my pc yet, apart from a few cheats ,using winscp over the wireless to transfer some files :P

Good question on the iphone... pretty sure it can dome some things OTA, but needs to be synced every so often.

hhadrian 2010-02-19 10:25

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
connected for me means a cable i avoid if at all possible my e90 was a great phone until the dreaded firmware upgrade (which o2 never seemed to support).i do wonder if the uk update may include the software for the skysports app not yet supported by n900

noobmonkey 2010-02-19 10:33

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hhadrian (Post 536269)
connected for me means a cable i avoid if at all possible my e90 was a great phone until the dreaded firmware upgrade (which o2 never seemed to support).i do wonder if the uk update may include the software for the skysports app not yet supported by n900


nokia wouldnt be doing that as part of an update?
That would be a 3rd party application.

Flash10 would be the saviour to most online tv....

johnel 2010-02-19 10:36

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 535329)
I really did not think i could have made it anymore clearer. 10 languages saying

THERE IS NO UK FIRMWARE UPDATE YET


I guess thats clear now. :)


Pardon?

Are you trying to tell me something?
.
.
.
.
BTW: Has the UK update been released yet?
(*johnel ducks under table*)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes79 View Post
....Anyway, it appears that only some countries and even then, not all users in that country have managed to receive the minor update. This is an issue and apparently most UK and some Finland users have not been able to get the update as we all now!!

So, they guy at Nokia has confirmed that they know about the issue, and that there is a major update coming last week of Feb/First wek of March. What they will do is merge the minor update with the major update so we will all get everything in one go.

So it seems we may have to wait a little longer, but they recognise the issue and we will get it eventually!

Just thought I'd let you know what I was told!....
(original comment page 116)

Let's all calm down, have a cup of tea and wait until the end of Feb/Start of March for the major part of the update.

After that then we can panic!

Cartoon_Head 2010-02-19 10:43

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes79 (Post 535728)
sxc - check my post on page 116. Nokia have said there is an issue wit sending the update OTA and they are merging the minor update with the major one at the end of feb/beginning of march. more info on page 116 :)

Can someone explain to me what kind of problem this could be? How can the problem be with sending the update OTA in the UK, and if it's a problem with sending the update OTA how will merging the updates help? And people in the UK can update to global firmware OTA so cant they just slap the UK firmware on that same server or something?!

It doesnt make sense, there is nothing i can think of specific to the UK firmware that could break it, can someone explain.

Cheers

CH

noobmonkey 2010-02-19 10:44

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cartoon_Head (Post 536289)
Can someone explain to me what kind of problem this could be? How can the problem be with sending the update OTA in the UK, and if it's a problem with sending the update OTA how will merging the updates help? And people in the UK can update to global firmware OTA so cant they just slap the UK firmware on that same server or something?!

It doesnt make sense, there is nothing i can think of specific to the UK firmware that could break it, can someone explain.

Cheers

CH

If we could explain it, do you think there would be 100 pages of people asking the same question? lol.......

Fact.... It's been delayed for some odd reason......

tough life isn't it :D

Wes79 2010-02-19 10:50

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
I assume if they do have some kind of regional variant difference for the UK then that is why the update isn't put on the global thinggy (you can tell i'm technical!! - I'm trying to learn though!) as if they put the UK one on there then everyone will see a new update and will get the UK one instead of Worldwide or something.
The issue though isn't purely UK which is odd. Apparently some people in the UK HAVE had the update but also, some users in Finland using the global update haven't got theirs either. :)

Cartoon_Head 2010-02-19 10:52

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 536292)
If we could explain it, do you think there would be 100 pages of people asking the same question? lol.......

Fact.... It's been delayed for some odd reason......

tough life isn't it :D

I would not have asked the question if there 100 pages of people asking it before me :rolleyes:

Also if the problem is OTA why havnt nokia released the latest firmware for nokia updater?!

Just doesnt seem to make sense, i think wes79's bloke was talking poop

CH

Wes79 2010-02-19 10:58

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
He might have been cartoon, the only reason i kind of believed him was that he seemed knowledgable around the last update. I asked if like last time we NEED the minor update in order to get the major one. He said that the previous one was different and was dependant on the minor one, but they decided not to do that this time.

I guess at the end of the day, errors and issues arise and they have a solution that is probably cost effective to them! Why spend money resolving an issue like a minor update which isn't critical when they can add the files to a mjor update going out in a couple of weeks and spend the same amount of money originally budgeted!

This is NOT me saying I believe it is right, but putting a business/cost effective head on, I guess I can see why they say, 'well, its not critical, we'll add it on the next one in a weeks time!'

Cartoon_Head 2010-02-19 10:59

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes79 (Post 536303)
I assume if they do have some kind of regional variant difference for the UK then that is why the update isn't put on the global thinggy (you can tell i'm technical!! - I'm trying to learn though!) as if they put the UK one on there then everyone will see a new update and will get the UK one instead of Worldwide or something.
The issue though isn't purely UK which is odd. Apparently some people in the UK HAVE had the update but also, some users in Finland using the global update haven't got theirs either. :)

Do you know if people in Finland have been able to update via the nokia updater?

CH

Wes79 2010-02-19 11:02

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Good point. I didn't ask that actually. Also, on a similar note, is anyone in here from Finalnd that hasn't had it OTA?? That's something else we haven't heard. Maybe they don't care as much as us? Or maybe, they whinge less?! ha ha ha :D :D

Cartoon_Head 2010-02-19 11:04

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes79 (Post 536318)
He might have been cartoon, the only reason i kind of believed him was that he seemed knowledgable around the last update. I asked if like last time we NEED the minor update in order to get the major one. He said that the previous one was different and was dependant on the minor one, but they decided not to do that this time.

I guess at the end of the day, errors and issues arise and they have a solution that is probably cost effective to them! Why spend money resolving an issue like a minor update which isn't critical when they can add the files to a mjor update going out in a couple of weeks and spend the same amount of money originally budgeted!

This is NOT me saying I believe it is right, but putting a business/cost effective head on, I guess I can see why they say, 'well, its not critical, we'll add it on the next one in a weeks time!'

I suppose that makes sense, they are hardly saving on there budget if all the UK users are downloading the 170mb or whatever to get the global firmware though! Anyway, i think i am finally ready to sit back and forget about the firmware till it pops up on my phone, it's only a little one anyway. :)

Cheers all

CH

Kenchy 2010-02-19 11:08

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
My bastardised n900 is functioning (see yesterdays post for details). However if there is anyone reading this with an upgraded mr0 (generic), could they do:

ls -la /etc/hildon-desktop/

and post the result?

TIA.

FWIW the battery life seems better, but that could just be wishful thinking.

noobmonkey 2010-02-19 11:14

Re: New N900 firmware 3.2010.02-8 released today (16 Feb)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenchy (Post 536326)
My bastardised n900 is functioning (see yesterdays post for details). However if there is anyone reading this with an upgraded mr0 (generic), could they do:

ls -la /etc/hildon-desktop/

and post the result?

TIA.

FWIW the battery life seems better, but that could just be wishful thinking.

~ $ ls -la /etc/hildon-desktop/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 784 Jan 25 16:45 .
drwxr-xr-x 80 root root 8392 Feb 19 00:12 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 178 Nov 13 12:28 home.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 434 Oct 5 13:43 home.plugins
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 453 Nov 13 12:28 home.safe-set
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1810 Nov 13 12:28 notification-groups.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 156 Nov 13 12:28 notification.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77 Nov 13 12:28 notification.safe-set
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 165 Dec 3 08:54 status-menu.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3044 Dec 3 08:54 status-menu.plugins


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