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The Jolla does show SMS and other message types, such as facebook in a single field. But there is not the full comms history that would include calls.

In the phone app the the contact only shows and not what number they called from(unless there is no contact set up). A long press on a contact in call log gives you the option to: send message, open contact card or delete.

Interestingly the call log shows each instance when they called, if another call has occurred since. If they call twice in quick succession then it will show that number with a 2 beside it (well at least in the case of missed calls).

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And to avoid returning a call to the wrong number it is exactly the number we are interested in.
so if you want to know the number you better have no contacts persons defined in your address book or x-mobile , x-work, x-fixed? I am not surprised.
Amazing how core communication functionality convenience is being overlooked or left out.
"Smart" phones, right? :eek:

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Hey, they are smart but not phones anymore :)

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Actually, I made sure that I asked about that, and apparently the Jolla functions very well as a phone. Whether you display more/less information via software is another matter, and can definitely be improved upon.

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True.

As long as there are no issues with reception and making/receiving calls, it is a good phone despite possible lack of features in the software.

If I have understood correctly, the Jolla phone should be safe in terms of functional hardware.

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The reception and call quality is up there with the best of any phone i have had. The volume is reassuringly loud too, my N9 required careful positioning against the ear and even then it was particularly quiet.

The pulley system to accept/reject calls is also very good and there is little chance or accidentally answering or cancelling a call when retrieving the phone from a pocket.

I'm sure one of the updates could mean that checking against a missed call could open up the correct number in the people app when selected.

There are issues but there is hope that these will be sorted, we are not on a burning platform so there is a still a lot of hope. I have to remember that I have only had the phone a week or so and the first updates should come early in the new year. At the launch Jolla were keen to point out that they had stopped adding features to the phone 3-4 months ahead of launch and concentrated on getting what is there working as reliably as possible. I think they have achieved this and I have to remind myself of that when i sometimes get frustrated at a missing feature or bug. It is after all a Beta OS. I was happy to sign up knowing that and am largely enjoying the journey, plus i loved my first trip to Finland :D

S0 there are a few features, such as portrait browsing, that will make the experience even better.

Sometime I just get impatient though :confused:

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@bockersjv

On your blog you show the youtube video playing in the background, but what happens when you flick down to your apps? Meaning youtube video not in the active window, does it continue? and when you lock the screen?

Thanks

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I have to agree to the above. In my experience the Jolla is already now better as a phone than n9.

isto

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It continues without a hitch and you can hear it still. It keeps playing until:-
You open the window and pause it
You close the playing window
The video comes to an end

:cool:

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Opening and android app, such as angry birds and you get the two sounds playing.

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I don't recall knowing that back in May/June, actually. Describing the OS as 'beta' was a much later change to the publicly available technical specifications. It wasn't until the major redesign of the website, near the beginning of November, that the specifications showed it was going to be a beta.

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True, I was happy when it was announced and I should say I would have been happy had i know whne placing my pre-order.

I have two other decent fully operational phones but have never once considered going back to either of them. Sure there are bugs and issues but for me the phone is ultimately usable.

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First SailfishOS update is rolled out at the moment, update your devices guys!

And tell us the changes :D

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If there is an official changelog, that'd be greatly appreciated!

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https://lists.sailfishos.org/piperma...er/001693.html

edit: Stskeeps had already posted that...

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Leave messages on server is different from normal delete, that means that messages will be immediately deleted after being retrieved by a client, you should never enable this if you want to read your email in multiple clients, this is normally a server side setting only, some clients do have it as well.

Regarding to delete some clients offer also options, like never delete from server or delete when user deletes from inbox, from previous experiments we found this is quite confusing for users, also the way POP works is not easy to understand for many users, so our implementation works like IMAP, if you delete from a inbox folder it moves the message to the device trash(local only, since POP only has inbox folder), if you delete from trash it removes from the server, but currently there's a bug that's why the inconsistent behavior described by bockersjv is happening, I already fixed it and will be offered in future update, sorry for the inconvenience.

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Downloaded and upgrade installing. Got a store error on first attempt to download. I assume that was a concurrent user issue.

Update

All done, can't say there are any real visual differences. As the changelog says this is for stability and UI issue fixes.

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Update images:-
Before:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ps706ad163.png
During: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ps59c490d6.png
After:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ps45993c54.png

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Really cool download screen :D

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Please, don't.

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If I had to do it, I certainly wouldn't do it like that :)

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Just out of curiosity, does each search function in the N9 involve tracker? The e-mail search for example, or the contacts one.

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Did you force the download&install somehow, or did the phone offer it to you? My Jolla doesn't say anything about update and I cannot find a way in the UI to force the check for updates.

Found it: Network connection up and then Settings app: System settings: About product. From top pulley menu: check updates.

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<insert obligatory "have you tried turning it off and on>

Go to Settings->About product, pulley menu -> Check for updates

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After update you got brighter on-screen text, mate. Have you noticed that? ;)

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Outlook.com can now be synced through exchange! Great

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what is the default way for syncing anything in Sailfish?
On Symbian and Maemo, MfE used to take care of all built-in PIM-syncing. Is MfE Sailfish's built-in sync protocol? If so, we absolutley some alternatives implemented...

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Might be an idea to blank out your IMEI in those screenshots

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It is MfE at the moment with many people asking for CalDAV and CardDAV support so that Google, Apple iCloud, ownCloud and many open standards based solutions would work. CalDAV at least used to work on the n9 but there never was a CardDAV accounts plugin.

SyncML is the other possibility as that works via buteo but without a GUI.

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Sailfish OS 1.0.1.10 (Laadunjärvi) (armv7hl):

uname -a
Linux localhost 3.4.0.20131118.1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 26 08:21:23 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux

So a few days newer (previous was 3.4.0.20131115.2 Mon Nov 18 03:00:49 UTC 2013).

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I tested again, with the new firmware:

I set an alarm a few minutes in to the future and powered off the phone. The phone successfully booted and played the alarm when the time arrived. After dismissing the alarm the phone powered off again.

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I post this here too! Now we can use the Navfree android app (gps is working better with android)!! Free navigation baby :P. Thank you Jolla for that.

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That app uses OpenStreetMaps according to the app page on the store.

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Nice ! Gonna try it with my Z10... OSMand is aweful and slow :/

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Uuu. Google Maps working even better :P smooth, you can download it here Hit here!

Navfree use offline maps and google maps use online, so the Navfree use less battery, i think but i can not be sure.

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The search application for N9 was based on smartsearch. A crap closed source technology that waits for tracker to discover new things and then it starts to index them by itself too effectively duplicating what tracker indexes. It's even worse but I don't want to give more details :P

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EDIT: removed my sarkasm

Btw. I think QML has an native open streetmap plugin to. Hint to some sailfish developers ;)

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Oh, sorry, didn't undestrand it was a sarcastic comment. :)

I just wanted to point that out, I'd very much prefer a native solution too (I still hope the Appello application will mature into a more complete package, Nokia Drive was good and I'd love to see something at least as good built on the same foundations, but third party apps would surely be welcome too), but knowing that in the meantime I can have a navigation app that comes free of charge, works fully offline AND uses an open map provider is kinda reassuring.

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Mail sync doesn't work (Saunalahti - IMAP - 30minutes)

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it seems there still isnot two way sync with exchange?

if i add a new contact, those wont sync to my exchange server