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slaapliedje 2010-05-12 20:15
Re: latest news about flash 10
 
Nokia ARE on the Open Screen Project

http://www.openscreenproject.org/par..._partners.html

So quite possibly Flash 10.1 will be included in PR1.2, since the rumor is now that we won't get it until after May, and somewhere else I read that May is when Android will get Flash 10.1 and June is when Maemo 5 would.

slaapliedje

mehdiE 2010-05-12 20:20
Re: latest news about flash 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshv06 (Post 655759)
Does anyone have actual proof that Flash 10.1 will not come to Maemo5 or is it just rumors?
AFAIK, Nokia never made any official announcement regarding Flash 10.

The only official announcement on Adobe's part came from their CTO in October last year when he demonstrated a pre-release version of Flash 10 running on the N900 and mentioned that it would be coming to "Nokia smartphones" in 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee3nT4bPw4 He didn't explicitly say "N900" and the 2010 deadline is as broad as it gets.

Again AFAIK, Adobe never made any other official statements regarding Flash 10 on the N900.

sjgadsby 2010-05-12 20:23
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive?
 
The thread "latest news about flash 10" with ten posts has been merged into this thread.

danramos 2010-05-12 20:27
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive?
 
Three words: Fixed in Harmatten

(drink)

rpgAmazon 2010-05-12 20:28
Re: latest news about flash 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clasificado (Post 655766)
I dont get your point: so as you dont have flash 10 here, you will buy a device that has no flash at all?
If Flash survives Apple strike, Flash sites will need v10... so if rumor is true, bye full browsing experience. How many months do you spec browsing with v9 versions?
If Flash survive, but we sticked at v9, Apple rules.
If Flash dies, Apple rules.
If Flash survive and v10, PERHAPS maemo (android) rules.
(sorry, my bad english hitting me again)

slaapliedje 2010-05-12 20:36
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive?
 
So that my post doesn't disappear due to the thread merge.

The answer from Adobe was;

"Adobe provides a porting kit and Linux-based reference implementation to Open Screen Project partners to allow them to port Flash Player 10.1 to other platforms."

According to the Open Screen Project's page (http://www.openscreenproject.org);

http://www.openscreenproject.org/par..._partners.html

Nokia IS one of the Open Screen Project partners.

So they should have the porting kit and the Linux based reference implementation. So theoretically they only need to port it, and have the means to do so.

At this point I would say that Flash 10.1 is in Nokia's court now, and whether they wish to release it to us, the hopeful N900 customers, is up in the air.

I still tend to think that they are trying to fit it in with the PR1.2 release.

slaapliedje

rpgAmazon 2010-05-12 20:41
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slaapliedje (Post 655826)
So that my post doesn't disappear due to the thread merge.

The answer from Adobe was;

"Adobe provides a porting kit and Linux-based reference implementation to Open Screen Project partners to allow them to port Flash Player 10.1 to other platforms."

According to the Open Screen Project's page (http://www.openscreenproject.org);

http://www.openscreenproject.org/par..._partners.html

Nokia IS one of the Open Screen Project partners.

So they should have the porting kit and the Linux based reference implementation. So theoretically they only need to port it, and have the means to do so.

At this point I would say that Flash 10.1 is in Nokia's court now, and whether they wish to release it to us, the hopeful N900 customers, is up in the air.

I still tend to think that they are trying to fit it in with the PR1.2 release.

slaapliedje
I really hope you're right.
I don't want to see Apple SMASHING Adobe and Nokia with only a open letter...

danramos 2010-05-12 20:48
Re: latest news about flash 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 655802)
If Flash survives Apple strike, Flash sites will need v10... so if rumor is true, bye full browsing experience. How many months do you spec browsing with v9 versions?
If Flash survive, but we sticked at v9, Apple rules.
If Flash dies, Apple rules.
If Flash survive and v10, PERHAPS maemo (android) rules.
(sorry, my bad english hitting me again)
That appears severely flawed and leaves out the possibility that if Flash dies, the WEB rules (HTML5) and everyone but Adobe wins.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-12 20:55
Re: latest news about flash 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 655858)
That appears severely flawed and leaves out the possibility that if Flash dies, the WEB rules (HTML5) and everyone but Adobe wins.
Yes. But few, very few weeks ago, a lot of people were "astonished" reading Steve letter...
Nokia "planning" and "steps" over years ending in nothing.
Jobs, "writing a letter", turn the net to his way.
(sorry again, this time I can't write in english what I want to "say")

gerbick 2010-05-12 21:02
Re: latest news about flash 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpgAmazon (Post 655877)
Yes. But few, very few weeks ago, a lot of people were "astonished" reading Steve letter..
I wasn't. Last year when Gianduja was shown off, I knew it would get appropriated for something that would compete with Flash more than likely.

Let's be honest. Gianduja sits on top of WebObjects, which they control... which works with part of a project they inject code into, Webkit.

This is highly reminiscent of the Adobe Premiere support on OS X being dropped in 2003 because all of a sudden, Adobe had Shake, Motion and a few iterations of Final Cut (pro, HD, "personal") - background info here.

If javaScript, HTML5 and Apple's stuff are to be the future, the future seems to be in the hand of lesser people. Which, bothers me.

Flash Player 10 not showing up on the N900 would be close to a travesty - it's been shown at least once in near beta form already. I think it's time Nokia gives some incentives to these companies to continue developing on prior (Maemo5 vs. MeeGo) platforms while planning on future (MeeGo) platforms or else... more stuff like this will happen in the future with other vendors.

My 2 cents.


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