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PradaBrada 2010-08-02 21:30
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 773557)
Hmm.. I read "It's a phone. It's a computer." at that link. I see nothing about being a "smartphone".

This has drifted off topic. Yes, you can do whatever you want with an iPhone and Droid after you break your warranty agreement and root/jail-break it. Custom ROMs, yada, yada... On the N900, you can do it naively, without using third party software to break into or replace the OS of your device.
Nexus One/Desire does these things natively :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 773560)
Ah, I see PradaBrada is back!

If you were able to get yoursef a new toy, why don't you head off to the Google / Android forums?
I don't need support for my Desire, everything works perfectly :)
New apps are alerted to me by Engadget/Gizmodo/AllAboutPhones :D

I'm in this forum for the lulz, there is so much comedy gold :o

woody14619 2010-08-02 21:44
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 773577)
Nexus One/Desire does these things natively :)
Really? You can log in as root on the Desire without any type of jail breaking or rooting? There's an open, manufacturer supplied package that lets you ssh or terminal into your device, as root? ADB is on by default?

Hmm... That's not what I'm seeing on the internet. There appears to be a jail break method that requires installing a modified third party ROM to get root on the Desire. But clearly you must be right, and it can be done nativity? Because why would you lie about such a thing?

Oh, right, because you're a habitual liar/whiner that's "just here for the lulz"? My bad.

danramos 2010-08-02 21:54
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 773602)
Really? You can log in as root on the Desire without any type of jail breaking or rooting? There's an open, manufacturer supplied package that lets you ssh or terminal into your device, as root? ADB is on by default?

Hmm... That's not what I'm seeing on the internet. There appears to be a jail break method that requires installing a modified third party ROM to get root on the Desire. But clearly you must be right, and it can be done nativity? Because why would you lie about such a thing?

Oh, right, because you're a habitual liar/whiner that's "just here for the lulz"? My bad.
Yeah, I feel like I might have to side with woody on this particular detail. What are you trying to say that you're able to do natively?

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 21:58
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 773602)
Really? You can log in as root on the Desire without any type of jail breaking or rooting? There's an open, manufacturer supplied package that lets you ssh or terminal into your device, as root? ADB is on by default?

Hmm... That's not what I'm seeing on the internet. There appears to be a jail break method that requires installing a modified third party ROM to get root on the Desire. But clearly you must be right, and it can be done nativity? Because why would you lie about such a thing?

Oh, right, because you're a habitual liar/whiner that's "just here for the lulz"? My bad.
I was talking about tethering which Droid doesn't have officially.

ADB needs to be installed on your computer and put on, but so what?

Rooting/jailbreaking is for those who want to, but warranty gets voided, tough ****, but your own choice.

Third party ROMs are practically just beta releases of updates

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 22:12
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
SSH Client in Android Market: http://www.linux-magazine.com/content/view/full/41041

Not sure if it can SSH as root though

danramos 2010-08-02 22:25
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
You can ssh with or without root. Always been that way. It's just a client--no biggy.
You can also run an ssh daemon server with or without being rooted as well. Without rooting, though, your command line privilege is pretty limited in scope.

gerbick 2010-08-02 22:59
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Wait, wait... wait. I see a deflection or two in this thread.

Woody, you can check the availability of an iPhone app without having access to an iPhone or iPod Touch via the web. All one needs to do is hit the Apple website.

And it's not just a concept; you were quite wrong about that.

Now, Prada... you can't do those from a stock phone. I think only the old G1 developer's edition - the G1 with the odd looking graphic on the back of it - was perhaps the only one that came with root accessible from the start... and I think even then it wasn't "evident". So I might even be wrong there. But you were wrong to have said that.

And SSH != root.

Now... deflections noted... let's just say it's better to be down the middle of the road, than be on either side when it comes down to facts.

At least be honest enough to admit when you're wrong. It's not that damn hard y'all.

sjgadsby 2010-08-02 23:10
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 773508)
Or like the oft-promised Flash 10.x for N900?
In the interest of accuracy, while Flash 10.1 has been much anticipated, Nokia has not promised it even once. So, they may be faulted for not delivering that hotly desired update, but they cannot be faulted for promising it and failing to deliver.

PradaBrada 2010-08-02 23:17
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 773678)
In the interest of accuracy, while Flash 10.1 has been much anticipated, Nokia has not promised it even once. So, they may be faulted for not delivering that hotly desired update, but they cannot be faulted for promising it and failing to deliver.
Not uttering the exact words, but saying full Flash support and letting Adobe show it off for the first time ever specifically on a N900, makes them more a guilty accomplice, not an innocent bystander

H3llb0und 2010-08-02 23:18
Re: Would You Buy Nokia Phone as Your Next Mobile ?
 
All I know is that right now I am very pissed off at Nokia.

Nokia better wake up before I decide to go Android, and after playing around with a friend's Galaxy S that time is not that far.
Maybe not the Galaxy S, but something with Android 3.0


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