Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Es hat sich seit dem letzten Jahr nichts geändert: N950 mit Tastatur = Developer und das “N8-01″ (wird anders heißen) ohne Tastur für Endkunden. Es wird so einfach werden.

in english: nothing change since last year. N950 with qwerty KB= developer device and “N8-01″ ( will be labeled different) without KB= Consumer. That is how is’t gonna be.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

i just say: Feb. 11th 2011 ;)

now everything is possible. and elop talked about one device, thats all, so its not a fact that there will be two devices...

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So we are still in the same situation... No one here knows for sure, and guys who know for sure cannot tell us...

So all we can do is wait and hope that it will satisfy our personal preferences...

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan? kbd VS. nokbd 'n lollipops >¦-)
 

kbd VS nokbd
a device such as the E7 w/ a keyboard makes little to no sense.
the only reason the E7 got one is most likely to underline its lineage, namely heir to the 9000 / 9xx0 & Co.
which is ridiculous, considering that most managers i ever dealt w/ which had this phone complained that the keys were too small to be of practical use.
the N900 successor w/out keyboard.
if there is ONE device where the keyboard not only makes sense but is literally required, it is a pocket computer such as the N900 or its successor.
to do all the Linux / GNU things without a physical keyboard renders the whole device pointless.
does this make the N900's successor a "geek device"? if the phone can be used (mostly) without the keyboard and the remaining features are top of the line, no, it doesn't.
if it was only about the "geeks" & developers, the N900 still perfectly fulfils the role.
don't want the kbd? get yourself a device from rotten iPotatos :(
or a N8 :p

lollipops
these forums more & more make me think of little kids getting a lollipop :mad:
in fact it really sounds like a bunch of kids all getting only ONE lollipop :D
«i want strawberries!!! i want cherries!!!»

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

I know FOR SURE BUT NOBODY IS LISTENING
do you really think I found Harmattan Packages by Mistake?

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan? kbd VS. nokbd 'n lollipops >¦-)
 

Besides, even if you got the device with QWERTY, no one forces you to ever use that. You can keep the device closed forever if you want to and never see the keyboard...

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One device might be just one ens jaet device and not counting the developer device. Not that i believe so but there is à possibility

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I've been stating for 3 days there is 2 devices

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

yes, that is true. there will be just one meego-related device this year, which will be sold. the dev-device will not be marketed. it will not appear on Nokia webshops, like the the other device.

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and you say both will have a KB? right?

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I stated this before I posted Harmattan packages, it was about there is 2 devices
confirmed by 2 nokians and 1 person who works close with Nokia
where do you think that person may work?http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=451

edited almost said too much

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nope one will be without kb

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And that sux big time.

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well i read those other reason & I hope you're right.
I was just saying those pictures don't prove anything for me.
We need harder evidence!!!

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

I would not take the pictures/video as proof for anything Companies have a habit of Photo shopping and adding special effects that dont exist

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I don't mind if developer device is that keyboardless. I'm pro consumer who WANT decent qwerty with good OS.

It would be gigantic failure to give devices w keyboard to devs only.

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as a saying goes: He who can do more can do less
or, as Marrat underlined, if you don't like / don't want the keyboard, don't use it.
and if the device will look anything like the E7 the keyboard really won't be obtrusive (13.6 mm thickness compared to 12.9 for the N8)

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no hwkb = no n9 for me..

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^I've seen claims that contradict this in this thread & elsewhere, do you agree with this NvyUs?

And if it's correct...
Will the slate be the device that's not available for public consumption, or the qwerty?

Will both devices have basically the same SoC, or will the slate have a slightly newer CPU/GPU etc?
Will both devices be release at the same time, or will there be a gap?

C'mon 'spilll the beans' if you know the answers*, you know you want to! :D

*& provide proof please goddamit!!!

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I'll state again what was said to me when i moaned about Consumer device not having KB, "You wont even want That one any way when you see the consumer one", he did not give me any details but i think its safe to say the Consumer device is packing something different to dev device.
now lets just wait it out and see i've repeated myself way too much already

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

for the strawberry fans, just noticed there is a N8 in pink ¦-)))))

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Huh? Not very clear sentence structure, can you clarify please ^
And if possible, can you please directly address each question in my last post?

Thank-you.

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dev device as hardware qwerty.
I don't know about the specs of either device, source tight lipped on this subject.
There will be a Gap of around a month to give time to devs who get dev device to recompile software for harmattan So there will be apps for Consumer device launch

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I feel your pain NvyUs. :D
Qwerty=dev
Nonqwerty=consumers

Dunno about the exact SOC on both devices.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

i am quite content to get a keyboard-less harmattan device, and only hope that the consumer candybar version is packing something a little more potent than Omap3.

thanks for the news.

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Only way this makes sense is that the "developer phone" has different hardware (with kb but otherwise inferior) than "consumer phone". "Developer phone" is probably the one that was leaked ages ago with pictures and all (this would explain the outdated CPU and GPU spotted from Harmattan package list) and "consumer phone" is something that we have not seen yet (except maybe some quick moments in the teaser video).

EDIT: so slow...

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Most of the smartphones sold today are very thin candybar, that's a fact. I personaly want a kb phone again, but for this new launching meego OS , Nokia should think to attract all the people with their differents tastes imho.
Btw if they don't do it first, i'm sure LG or Intel or others will make it faster ^^

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and how quickly do you guess the "other dev" will get thru FCC?
'cuz short of gluing the two parts (keyboard & screen) together, there is no way the RM-680 certification will hold for a dev w/out keyboard.
might as well leave it up to the consumer not to open it if said consumer doesn't like it.
like i said in a past post, the RM-680 is much too nice to be a developer device (only).

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I don't understand why something is a 'developer' device only, it doesn't make sense.

For a developer device we don't care how it looks! What we want is to be able to debug/view code, registers etc... thats more important, than the looks.

There is no point in putting effort into making it look nice if it's not going to be available to the public! The only difference between a dev device and consumer device would be the type of firmware loaded on - to enable them to recover the device quickly.

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great, so no freaking way for end-users to buy the the qwerty for a reasonable amt?
Only the slate will be widely/publicly sold... How freaking lame :mad:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Y6h9gBVM#t=51s

^^^ look at the reflect carrefully, it s an n950

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I hope that you and your connections will be right... that would be great... if i could choose, i would like to have the one without the keyboard... i want a device as slim as possible... my pockets are very thin ;)

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Then it is droids you are looking for.

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I personally don't care if it has slightly inferior hardware.
I wanted my hw qwerrty :(
If the slate/candybar (whatever it is) has greatly superior hardware.
Then that's another matter I guess.

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

Or E7. ;)
"filler text"

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I think it's an N8 myself. :p :D

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at 51 seconds look at shape of the device reflection on N900, interesting video it shot looks very good

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Maybe the keyboard-less consumer device won't get released in US in order not to pollute the Windows Phone strategy there. And thus no FCC certification needed.

But Nokia still wants cutting-edge US developers creating apps for the rest of the world so (US) developers get the qwerty-equipped dev device (requiring FCC certification)?!

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But why the hell the flashy ad which explicitly suggests there'll be a qwerty device soon for consumers?
Gah!!!! All the speculation is killing me goddamit, I'm going to start killing kittens to satiate my rage...

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

i tried android one time... had the optimus speed a couple of days... and have send it back to amazon... android is nothing for me, i want real multitasking and dont want to go back 15times to close an app ;)
and it was soo laggy... cant understand why due to the dualcore... and dont like google at all ;)

Btw, a keyboardless device is not a must have, i will buy the keyboard-version if there is no device without the keyboard (keyboard of my n900 is nice to have), but if i can choose, i would like to have a keyboardless version... and meego is optimized to be used without hardware-keys so there is no problem of usability :)