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raynman 2008-01-25 04:26

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
jolouis,
I mostly agree with you. The cost difference is huge. It seems the only hope for something like that would be many interested parties and a good deal on a bulk purchase. While I don't see how dongles are more easily damaged than adapters, I do see how adapters are easier to slip into the pocket on your way out the door. In my opinion, adapters are more prone to breaking when plugged into the N800, obviously since they don't flex. Truth be told, I'd find the convenience of a well-designed dongle worth more than the convenience of not having to switch USB modes in the software.

That said, being the Dutchman I am, I will try my best to fit in with the crowd and settle for an adapter for the sake of cost. Thanks for lending an ear.

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nhanquy,
I was speaking of a Female mini-B to Female A adapter, like the one I posted:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/90/2f/c8f5_1_b.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-OTG-Adaptor-...QQcmdZViewItem
Except in black. If someone finds one, I'd still be interested in that, alongside the adapter jolouis will be making.

nhanquy 2008-01-25 07:39

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
raynman,

There is B/M B/M cable

http://www.datapro.net/images/1596.jpg

for your black B/F A/F adapter.

raynman 2008-01-25 08:05

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
Yep, I have that one bookmarked... someone in this gigantic thread posted it awhile back. 3-4" is my target length. Thanks for the post though.

TheGogmagog 2008-01-25 12:57

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
I'd suggest just go ahead and make some up and put them on e-bay/craigslist then see how it goes. Personally I'm fine with the command line switch at the moment, I don't have any practical use for OTG. I'd think 10-15$ shipped cost would sell.

As far as the cable IF I were in the market, I would also want no more than 5" so it would be more likely to fit in a case (which I don't have yet either).

For the person talking about walking around with something USB plugged in... you could use the kickstand to make a pocket (with any luck your USB device would fit inside it). Or you could make a case that would accomodate both devices with kickstand. I'm planning to make one to carry my Nokia, Cell phone, camera, and cables out of cardboard. You could then cover the cardboard with cloth, wrapping paper or markers to snazz it up a little. I need to buy my camera to determine size before I make the case though.

geneven 2008-01-25 15:03

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
Ok, where do I send the money?

(I just read the whole thread and am exhausted. Not that I understood the whole thread, not being a handy guy with a soldering iron. But a cable that lets me plug in a usb drive sounds awesome.)

Benson 2008-01-25 17:27

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
Well, I'm interested in buying either a dongle or adapter... How about a poll:
Would you buy, if both were available for xx.xx USD each:
  • Dongle
  • Adapter
  • Both
  • Neither
Then, by tallying dongle+both, and adapter+both, you have basically a guarantee of how many people are interested in each product... and might buy it, if you're lucky, and if it does come out to that price.

Oh, and the price in Raynman's latest link is 14.50 USD. Is shipping across the border that much?
(50 - 14.5) = 35$ to ship a cable :eek:

raynman 2008-01-25 17:45

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
I'd pay $20 for an OTG dongle or $10 for an OTG adapter.
If I got the OTG adapter cheap enough, I'd also get this:
http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-2mbr01-ext-06.jpg
and use an applet to switch modes for my smaller (mini-B) devices that don't use the A adapter. I think that's a workable solution.

jolouis 2008-01-25 21:02

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 133651)
Oh, and the price in Raynman's latest link is 14.50 USD. Is shipping across the border that much?
(50 - 14.5) = 35$ to ship a cable :eek:

$14.50 USD + 8.00 USD general shipping/handling + $25 international shipping charge. (and I was generalizing so I just rouneded as I figured there'd probably be some other border brokerage/etc charge thrown in there... there always is). Now keep in mind that's one cable, so additional cables would bring the overall price down, but that's still a lot of shipping costs for such a small item. I've been trying to find a local (or at least Canadian based) supplier of these type of USB dongles, but short USB dongles of any type seem to be quite a rare item (that makes sense when you think about most things beyond the Tablet) let alone ones with the appropriate connectors.

Anyways, good advice on the poll; I've started a new thread to bring the developments into light and see who might be interested in actually buying an adapter or dongle:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=15705

Benson 2008-01-25 21:28

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 133778)
$14.50 USD + 8.00 USD general shipping/handling + $25 international shipping charge. (and I was generalizing so I just rouneded as I figured there'd probably be some other border brokerage/etc charge thrown in there... there always is). Now keep in mind that's one cable, so additional cables would bring the overall price down, but that's still a lot of shipping costs for such a small item. I've been trying to find a local (or at least Canadian based) supplier of these type of USB dongles, but short USB dongles of any type seem to be quite a rare item (that makes sense when you think about most things beyond the Tablet) let alone ones with the appropriate connectors.

OK, the $25 for international shipping surprises me. Glad I don't live in CA! (Either the state or the nation :))
Yeah, it's understandable that they're rare. And even that right-angle connector is awfully long -- I'm sure a connector could be made shorter, but there's just not many devices that make people want that I guess...

Benson 2008-01-25 21:42

Re: N800 USB Host Mode Experiment
 
An idea for an alternate adapter-gadget-thing: I've heard random rumors of battery-powered USB hubs before. Seems like a nice N800 accessory would be a 'backpack'; a custom case to clip under the kickstand of an N800, with a mini-usb cable and power cable coming out one end (to connect the N800), and inside a bank of, say, 3 9V batteries, the powered hub, and a charging adapter. Hours of runtime, 4 powered USB ports, and a handy brick-like form-factor (which probably would bother some people a lot more than it would bother me.) I don't expect you're interesting in fabbing up some backpacks, jolouis, hence putting it back here rather than the new adapter thread.


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