Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Treating your customers like the enemy is why we end up with ******** like DRM being pushed all over the place. End users are the reason devices sell.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Or not, it's perfectly possible to maintain RPM systems with apt too (eg blag linux does this).

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

That's a bit silly. Why restrict yourself to a single distribution at all? My main desktop systems run Fedora, but when I wanted to install the Maemo SDK I didn't try to shoe-horn it into a system it wasn't designed for, I just created an Ubuntu VM and ran it in that. It got the environment it wanted, and I got it nicely sandboxed into the bargain.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

It may have been a political thing - LSB compliance requires RPM support (note: not necessarily exclusively) and for better or worse the Linux Foundation is also involved here.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Y'know, after all these years and versions that one is still my favourite too.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

I'm too much of a "if the glass is less than half full then it's certainly not half full" kind of guy to be enthusiastic about this unexpected move :/

I mean, I've been wanting Maemo to succeed because, well... Because it took mobile internet serious at a time when noone else did, and because I think this community right here is quite productive.

I'm sure that they will find a good solution when talk.maemo.org moves on - and I already followed it here from theinternettablettalkforumplaciesite.com - but I'm not sure if it will be a good solution at first. And I think Nokia is taking too long to get to step 5 - mass market, considering the momentum in the Android camp. I mean, the main disadvantage with Android in my book is having to go through Dalvik, but who knows if that will last forever.

I've wanted Maemo to become a success, but I am not at all sure it's going in the right direction. Though, maybe the new project teams will make some good choices.

I don't know what to think, usually I can recognize one outcome more likely than the others, but here I am stumped.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Unfortunately they went and picked a godawful name for their new platform and kill our community out from under us just like that.

I have a lot of emotional attachment to Maemo and maemo.org. Seeing those tossed out the window for Mee "What the hell were they thinking?!" Go just hurts.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Ryan Paul, as always, gets things right in his ars technica article.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Do we actually have to ditch the name? The Fedora community isn't Redhat, the Ubuntu community isn't Debian, does the Maemo community have to be MeeGo?

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

My largest concerns about this are not around the technology (or if "my N900 will run MeeGo" - for what it's worth, I don't expect it to). The concerns I have are around people.

Like Kathy, I wonder about the place for the user community in this brave new world - the MeeGo site, currently, looks very developer-centric. That may change, but that's where it's at for the moment. I think this forum has demonstrated that users bring value to the whole software/device ecosystem (seemingly the current favo(u)rite word in recent Nokia presentations).

The other area of concern is a new spate of religious wars:

Debian - Good -- Fedora - Bad
deb - Good -- rpm - Bad

and from the other side... (to join in the us/them paradigm myself)

QT - Bad -- GTK/Clutter - Good

These "discussions" waste time and energy and, rarely, provide any value. But they are a fact of life in the software industry.

I just wish they weren't.