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mscion 2018-04-24 15:22

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Holy cow! Purism + Ubuntu touch!

https://puri.sm/posts/ubports-ubuntu...collaboration/

gerbick 2018-04-24 16:20

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1543589)

This does not bring any excitement for me. In fact, it does the opposite.

deutch1976 2018-04-24 16:23

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1543592)
This does not bring any excitement for me. In fact, it does the opposite.

One can always choose between
Librem 5 with PureOS
Librem 5 with PureOS (KDE Plasma Mobile)
Librem 5 with Ubuntu Touch
It is even better now that we can choose the OS

gerbick 2018-04-24 16:31

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1543593)
One can always choose between
Librem 5 with PureOS
Librem 5 with PureOS (KDE Plasma Mobile)
Librem 5 with Ubuntu Touch
It is even better now that we can choose the OS

You know, my statement perhaps came out a bit too harshly; thank you for your response as it is leagues more informative than my own.

After experiencing a bit of Ubuntu Touch, I can easily state that I would not choose Ubuntu Touch. PureOS with Plasma has my attention the most.

But you know what? Having multiple options is quite good. I just lack the enthusiasm (or patience) for Ubuntu Touch.

elastic 2018-04-24 16:56

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1543594)
You know, my statement perhaps came out a bit too harshly; thank you for your response as it is leagues more informative than my own.

After experiencing a bit of Ubuntu Touch, I can easily state that I would not choose Ubuntu Touch. PureOS with Plasma has my attention the most.

But you know what? Having multiple options is quite good. I just lack the enthusiasm (or patience) for Ubuntu Touch.

The UBports team is doing quite well lately and solved plenty of issues the Ubuntu touch team hasn't been able to solve in months. Taking in account it's now a community driven project it's quite amazing how fast the progress became in the last months.

It runs pretty smooth now on my nexus 5...

bennypr0fane 2018-04-30 11:35

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1543574)
On small screens I still don't understand how working without a hardware keyboard can work at all. On a 5" screen you basically need the whole screen to display a half-way useable keyboard, because unlike on a hardware keyboard where you get haptic feedback before(!) a key is pressed (e.g. N900) you can't make the individual keys on an on-screen keyboard any smaller than a fingertip.
I understand that on-screen phone keyboards basically circumvent this limitation by auto completion and auto correction and that seems to work well for texts that are adressed to humans. But I can't imagine this would work in a terminal where you type highly context-sensitive arbitrary two-letter commands.

Amen to that. Except, I don't think that a proper keyboard is just required for programming - it's necessary for proper writing. Man, I still hate writing on touch screens. Why do manufacturers hate proper keyboards so much?

juiceme 2018-04-30 12:58

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Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1543825)
Amen to that. Except, I don't think that a proper keyboard is just required for programming - it's necessary for proper writing. Man, I still hate writing on touch screens. Why do manufacturers hate proper keyboards so much?

Ah, do you have any idea how expensive it is to have a HWKBD on a phone, even without localizing.... add to that the inventory cost of having several different locales!
Also it adds a lot of mechanical failure modes to the device, making repair costs and returns higher...

Nope, because public will not pay the premium for a keyboard it will not be made.

kinggo 2018-04-30 13:36

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meanwhile, public will pay hefty premium for camera that is on par with those 100€ compacts just to trow it away at the end of a contract :confused:

pichlo 2018-04-30 13:48

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A mobile phone camera is nowhere near a par with a 100€ compact. On a compact, a zoom is a zoom. On a phone, a zoom is a glorified crop.

kinggo 2018-04-30 14:25

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I know. But considering that phones killed compacts. Almost. Let's say that it is. Particulary because a lot of people will say that they did get XY only because of better camera.


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