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Honza. 2010-06-01 14:06
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
How can I do complete remove of easy debian? I installed many packages for experimenst. Now I want clean debian. I tried to delete image, uninstall easy debian via App manager. But settings, modifications, icons stills in LXDE. What I have to delete manually? Thanks

rebhana 2010-06-01 14:32
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 693728)
/usr/bin/xephfocus line 5: trl command not found

Is this a potential problem?
No, that's harmless. I guess it's a leftover from debugging.

qalhat 2010-06-01 19:48
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qalhat (Post 687103)
I have 2 problems:

1- after upgrade to PR1.2 can't use keyboard again after switching between the phone and Easy Debian.

2- the menu bar (which contains the reboot/logout/shutdown, etc options) is gone. I don't know how to get it back.


Quote:
Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 687578)
For 1., apply qole's fix above; for 2., you can follow the instructions in the wiki http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian, but this does not restore the cute Maemo-like icon. Since /home/user/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/top is included in the easy-deb-chroot package, you could probably just de-install and then re-install the easy-deb-chroot package. The Debian image wouldn't be affected by that. You might just have to redo your edits of .chroot, if you have done some.


1- still not able to fix this problem, even tried qole's new version "Easy Debian 0.9.47". My N900 has an English keyboard

2- I followed what you suggested but did not work for me. I deleted the big img file and reinstalled everything again, the menu now back.

qole 2010-06-01 20:07
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
qalhat: The only way to get keyboard back now is with the "Fix LXDE kbd" icon. I've put it on my desktop and I press it to return to LXDE.

Are you using this icon?

qalhat 2010-06-01 22:31
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 694568)
qalhat: The only way to get keyboard back now is with the "Fix LXDE kbd" icon. I've put it on my desktop and I press it to return to LXDE.

Are you using this icon?

yes I am using it, but once I press on the icon it return to LXDE for few seconds only then focus go back to Maemo.

mscion 2010-06-01 23:00
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Just an observation that when, in open office writer, you go to full screen
(control + up arrow) the "file" and "edit" options do not work. However when you return to the usual size they function so you that can close out cleanly. More a nuisance then a serious problem...

Similar issue with the terminals in accessories. Here "view" was also
inaccessible.

qole 2010-06-01 23:01
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
qalhat:

You should see a terminal open first, then, for a short time, a dialogue box will open with an OK button. Both of these windows will close automatically, leaving the LXDE window at the front.

Does this happen? If not, what does happen?

qalhat 2010-06-01 23:29
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
qole:

the terminal open and close auto, but the dialogue will not close untill I click OK. at this point focus return to LXDE and I can use keyboard but only for few seconds then LXDE window zoom out auto and I have to bring it back to front manually but cant use keybaord again..

thanks

qole 2010-06-01 23:39
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
qalhat: you are probably having the "Information" problem. You will need to edit the xephfocus file as described in the wiki.

qole 2010-06-02 04:23
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
The new version of Easy Debian in Extras-devel (0.9.48) adds a new Maemo-side script, /usr/bin/fixkbdfocus that runs the necessary chroot commands to get keyboard focus back, but it is more elegant, works with any m5 image, and doesn't have localization issues. So no new image or editing is required.

The fixkbdfocus script can be used with any window with keyboard focus problems. Just give it the window name as a parameter.

rebhana 2010-06-02 08:43
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 695153)
The new version of Easy Debian in Extras-devel (0.9.48) adds a new Maemo-side script, /usr/bin/fixfocus that runs the necessary chroot commands to get keyboard focus back, but it is more elegant, works with any m5 image, and doesn't have localization issues. So no new image or editing is required.

The fixfocus script can be used with any window with keyboard focus problems. Just give it the window name as a parameter.
:) Very elegant indeed and works perfectly! :) I think this should go into Extras-Testing asap.

I'll update the wiki accordingly. The name you gave to the new scipt is by the way fixkbdfocus.

fw190 2010-06-02 09:00
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 695153)
The new version of Easy Debian in Extras-devel (0.9.48) adds a new Maemo-side script, /usr/bin/fixfocus that runs the necessary chroot commands to get keyboard focus back, but it is more elegant, works with any m5 image, and doesn't have localization issues. So no new image or editing is required.

The fixfocus script can be used with any window with keyboard focus problems. Just give it the window name as a parameter.

For me everything works fine :) Great work!

rebhana 2010-06-02 09:38
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 694914)
Just an observation that when, in open office writer, you go to full screen
(control + up arrow) the "file" and "edit" options do not work. However when you return to the usual size they function so you that can close out cleanly. More a nuisance then a serious problem...

Similar issue with the terminals in accessories. Here "view" was also
inaccessible.
I don't have this problem. However, the full-screen toggle control + up or control + space only does something at all when I'm running OO in debbie mode. Under LXDE I can go fullscreen with Ctrl+Shift+J in OO or F11 in ROXTerm, and all the menus keep working.

mscion 2010-06-02 12:17
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 695153)
The new version of Easy Debian in Extras-devel (0.9.48) adds a new Maemo-side script, /usr/bin/fixfocus that runs the necessary chroot commands to get keyboard focus back, but it is more elegant, works with any m5 image, and doesn't have localization issues. So no new image or editing is required.

The fixfocus script can be used with any window with keyboard focus problems. Just give it the window name as a parameter.

Awesome job! Although I do not understand why, this fix also appears to take care of the problem with access to file and edit when in open office writer and other terminals in accessories.

qalhat 2010-06-02 12:48
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 695153)
The new version of Easy Debian in Extras-devel (0.9.48) adds a new Maemo-side script, /usr/bin/fixfocus that runs the necessary chroot commands to get keyboard focus back, but it is more elegant, works with any m5 image, and doesn't have localization issues. So no new image or editing is required.

The fixfocus script can be used with any window with keyboard focus problems. Just give it the window name as a parameter.

great work qole, the new version fixed the problem :D.

thanks very much for all your help..

DrSteve 2010-06-02 13:32
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
So what's the recommended approach to updating to 0.9.48? Will App Mgr find the update and apply it just to the Maemo-side files, leaving the downloaded image alone?

mscion 2010-06-02 14:13
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrSteve (Post 695786)
So what's the recommended approach to updating to 0.9.48? Will App Mgr find the update and apply it just to the Maemo-side files, leaving the downloaded image alone?
Yes, This should not directly effect the image.

mscion 2010-06-02 14:29
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I have a question in regards to the key definitions again...
First, operation of the function keys, due to improvements in .xbindkeysrc are quite good. But, now some of my previous defintions involving Mod5 do not work. For example to obtain
the left bracket, {, I had used

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '{'"
Mod5 + Left

Now the result of typing of Mod5 + Left just behaves as if I had not pressed the function key.

Any clue how to get this type of definition to work again?

Also, I happen to notice that keysym.h and keysymdef.h
are not located as described in the comments in .xbindkeysrc

rebhana 2010-06-02 17:08
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 695894)
First, operation of the function keys, due to improvements in .xbindkeysrc are quite good. But, now some of my previous defintions involving Mod5 do not work. For example to obtain
the left bracket, {, I had used

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '{'"
Mod5 + Left

Now the result of typing of Mod5 + Left just behaves as if I had not pressed the function key.

Any clue how to get this type of definition to work again?

Also, I happen to notice that keysym.h and keysymdef.h
are not located as described in the comments in .xbindkeysrc
Did it really work before? I was experiencing difficulties before with xvkbd - independent of xbindkeys.
If you type in
Code:
xvkbd -xsendevent -text '{'
in the Debian chroot terminal, do you get "{" on the next line?

If that does work, perhaps the problem is simply that you have overwritten your .xbindkeysrc file with the new one and not yet reinserted your personal additions?

anandv76 2010-06-02 17:37
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
i have done both i.e. edited lxdefocus.desktop and xephfocus too but dont have any luck. when i run it, i get a message saying "all updates are complete" but the focus still doesnt move to lxde...could you please help?

Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 687359)
hi all... quick update from a public wifi access point.

PR 1.2 keyboard fix:

edit (sudo leafpad) /usr/share/applications/hildon/lxdefocus.desktop

and change the Exec line to read:

Exec=osso-xterm 'debbie xephfocus'

And yes you might need to fix the xephfocus script to fix the Info problem. Can you explain how to do that, rebhana?

Gotta go! Bye!

rebhana 2010-06-02 17:56
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anandv76 (Post 696203)
i have done both i.e. edited lxdefocus.desktop and xephfocus too but dont have any luck. when i run it, i get a message saying "all updates are complete" but the focus still doesnt move to lxde...could you please help?
Try the new Easy Debian package from Extras-devel, that should fix the problem. (You won't have to reinstall the image after this upgrade!)

lazzarello 2010-06-02 18:01
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
LXDE is functional after the update but the new image broke the apt repository. I can't install packages cause ldconfig and locales are uninstallable. This sounds like a broken base-system issue.

Reinstall image?

anandv76 2010-06-02 18:02
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
thanks rebhana! i just updated a couple of days back to the v3d image, would i need to download the package and reinstall the image again please?

rebhana 2010-06-02 18:04
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anandv76 (Post 696249)
thanks rebhana! i just updated a couple of days back to the v3d image, would i need to download the package and reinstall the image again please?
As I already said: No!

rebhana 2010-06-02 18:07
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazzarello (Post 696248)
LXDE is functional after the update but the new image broke the apt repository. I can't install packages cause ldconfig and locales are uninstallable. This sounds like a broken base-system issue.

Reinstall image?
The upgrade of Easy Debian from extras-devel does not do anything to the image. What did you do precisely?

Honza. 2010-06-02 18:17
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza. (Post 693863)
How can I do complete remove of easy debian? I installed many packages for experimenst. Now I want clean debian. I tried to delete image, uninstall easy debian via App manager. But settings, modifications, icons stills in LXDE. What I have to delete manually? Thanks
Nobody has an idea?

anandv76 2010-06-02 18:20
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
thanks rebhana, was just checking as you said "You won't have to reinstall the image after this upgrade!"...downloaded the package and testing it out now...

anandv76 2010-06-02 18:22
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
nice, works like a charm now...thanks rebhana!

anandv76 2010-06-02 18:27
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
but cant seem to get options to logout/shutdown? the application drop down isnt available...and i cant seem to logout...

rebhana 2010-06-02 18:30
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by anandv76 (Post 696291)
but cant seem to get options to logout/shutdown? the application drop down isnt available...and i cant seem to logout...
If the top panel is missing - there are instructions in the wiki for that. But with an up-to-date image you shouldn't have such a problem.

mscion 2010-06-02 18:31
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 696167)
Did it really work before? I was experiencing difficulties before with xvkbd - independent of xbindkeys.
If you type in
Code:
xvkbd -xsendevent -text '{'
in the Debian chroot terminal, do you get "{" on the next line?
Now I am really confused... This afternoon I bought a new sim card. After inserting it I happen to try my key definitions and, to my
surprise, they worked! This is even better than the "trick" I thought. Anyways, assuming the key definition problem had something to do with the original sim card, I then put the old card back in and my key definitions still worked. Sill confused... My best guess is
that installing the new sim card must have reset something. Receiving phones call while in Debian had previously disabled the keyboard. Is this related?

rebhana 2010-06-02 18:32
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza. (Post 696274)
Nobody has an idea?
I haven't understood your problem, I'm afraid. You say you've removed the image and LXDE is the same? Unless you have more than one image, that's not possible.

anandv76 2010-06-02 18:41
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
top panel is there but doesnt give me the options to launch apps or logout. earlier i could press the desktop for a sec/two secs to get the logout/shutdown options and that isnt coming up either...any ideas how to logout/shutdown? maybe a reboot would help but need to logout first...

lazzarello 2010-06-02 18:49
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
sudo apt-get install rubygems1.8

this began installing dependencies and in the process broke with a "cannot find ldconfig in path" error. So apt-get is now unable to run because dpkg is broken. this means apt-get -f install also fails, along with apt-get remove.

qole 2010-06-02 18:49
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honza. (Post 693863)
How can I do complete remove of easy debian? I installed many packages for experimenst. Now I want clean debian. I tried to delete image, uninstall easy debian via App manager. But settings, modifications, icons stills in LXDE. What I have to delete manually? Thanks
Honza, maybe try this:

- uninstall Easy Debian
- Delete Debian image file
- reboot phone
- delete any LXDE-related directories in your home dir:
Code:
rm -r /home/user/.config/lx*
rm -r /home/user/.config/openbox
rm -r /home/user/.config/pcmanfm
- reinstall Easy Debian
- reinstall Debian image file

mscion 2010-06-02 19:14
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 696167)
Did it really work before? I was experiencing difficulties before with xvkbd - independent of xbindkeys.
If you type in
Code:
xvkbd -xsendevent -text '{'
in the Debian chroot terminal, do you get "{" on the next line?

If that does work, perhaps the problem is simply that you have overwritten your .xbindkeysrc file with the new one and not yet reinserted your personal additions?
It worked before but had been broken for quite awhile. I had copied and modified the new .xbindkeyrc.dist with my key definitions in the hope that they might work. But they didn't, even after rebooting.

If I do the command you suggest to make a {, it still spews out errors...

anandv76 2010-06-02 19:16
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
anybody can help me logout pls?

Quote:
Originally Posted by anandv76 (Post 696313)
top panel is there but doesnt give me the options to launch apps or logout. earlier i could press the desktop for a sec/two secs to get the logout/shutdown options and that isnt coming up either...any ideas how to logout/shutdown? maybe a reboot would help but need to logout first...

qole 2010-06-02 19:20
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
anandv76:

I'm afraid you're going to have to just kill LXDE the "ugly way". Hit Ctrl-backspace, then hit the blue X on the tiny "Easy Debian" window. Then use the Close Debian icon to shut down the chroot. Then try again to open Debian LXDE. Hopefully everything should be fixed.

rebhana 2010-06-02 19:29
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
anandv76:

After a hard kill of LXDE, things may be a bit out of order. But that should be fixed after the next regular shutdown.

qole 2010-06-02 19:33
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Just sent another update to Extras-devel: Easy Debian 0.9.49

This version cleans up the fixkbdfocus script, taking it from a rough proof-of -concept script to a slightly more polished script, with GUI error messages produced if no window name is provided or the window name is not found.

I am going to push this to the Extras-testing quarantine ASAP, so everyone can get their keyboard back by mid-June :)


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