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zarkokn 2010-07-25 22:55

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
It seems to works very good, i also hope smoku can grab 3D acceleration from that code.

IINexusII 2010-07-25 23:00

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 764464)
So PSX4DROID is out.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/25/p...r-googlephone/

Any chance you can look at the code and port it, smoku? Is this thing even hardware accelerated?

they have much faster cpu's though if you temporarily overclock your n900 to 1150mhz you get similar speeds to them in the latest psx4m

giannoug 2010-07-25 23:17

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
You can also try running Android on the N900. It now has 3D acceleration, but you can't overclock right now.

smoku 2010-07-26 08:34

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 764464)
So PSX4DROID is out.

This is basically the same base code I am using for PSX4M.

nax3000 2010-07-26 14:03

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 764936)
This is basically the same base code I am using for PSX4M.

Oh. Is there a reason why the droid version works better? More optimization for the qualcomm CPU? I mean, the N900 can do 1ghz but it's still not going to be as fast.

Bratag 2010-07-26 14:42

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 765209)
Oh. Is there a reason why the droid version works better? More optimization for the qualcomm CPU? I mean, the N900 can do 1ghz but it's still not going to be as fast.

My ridge racer runs only slightly slower than the demo in that video - so I don't think there is much between them

I feel sure when cycle multiplier is back then we will see very close to performance.

Jay92 2010-07-26 15:12

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
How do we turn the sound off
As I always presumed if the sound was off the game would run easier

Also

The emulated game has a white background around it.
How do I change this to black?? or simply stretch emulated game


Thanks :-)

Bratag 2010-07-26 15:13

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay92 (Post 765289)
How do we turn the sound off
As I always presumed if the sound was off the game would run easier

Also

The emulated game has a white background around it.
How do I change this to black?? or simply stretch emulated game


Thanks :-)

I could be wrong - but I do not believe the current version allows either of those.

smoku 2010-07-26 15:29

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay92 (Post 765289)
The emulated game has a white background around it.
How do I change this to black?? or simply stretch emulated game

Do you use some white theme?

scorpio16v 2010-07-26 15:32

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 764936)
This is basically the same base code I am using for PSX4M.

Oh, than you should have a look if there are the same bugs inside.:)

- The PSX4Driod port didn't support the L2/R2 Buttons.
- Tony Hawk 2 has problems with textures.
- There is the same graphic bug with Oddworld, you have fixed already in your former PSX4All port.
- and some other little things, like missing cofigurations like cycle multiplier and frameskip.

It's fast and on some games the sound output is realy OK,

The N900, overclocked @ 1150 and psx4all has nearly the same speed and you can even use an PS3 pad.

Hope Zodttd is as fast as you in bugfixing. :D

Jay92 2010-07-26 15:36

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 765313)
Do you use some white theme?

No
I am currently using a black theme

cddiede 2010-07-26 15:59

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 765209)
Oh. Is there a reason why the droid version works better? More optimization for the qualcomm CPU? I mean, the N900 can do 1ghz but it's still not going to be as fast.

Remember that that N900 has more overhead then most Android devices.

Mameo 5 runs an X server at all times that cannot be turned off. Add that with the hildon-home and hidon-desktop processes, this add alot of stuff on the CPU that Android devices don't have to worry about.

Of course, Android apps have to run in the Dalvik VM while N900 can run more native code, so we've got that going for us....

One more thing is the audio. I don't know what runs the audio on Android devices, but Maemo5 is stuck with PulseAudio which is not the most CPU efficient audio daemon out there.

Put all this together and you have the fact that even when over clocked, the N900 won't run the same code as fast or as smoothly as Snapdragon powered android devices. :(

Jay92 2010-07-26 16:10

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Is there any way of disabling things like
  • hidon-home and hidon-desktops
  • even the audio daemon

when psx4m starts up?

That would defiantly save processing power

ishurmer 2010-07-26 16:39

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Is pasuspend available for the N900? Can we even access a native ALSA audio device (I know it redirects to pulse in the alsa.conf file)?

cddiede 2010-07-26 18:00

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay92 (Post 765357)
Is there any way of disabling things like
  • hidon-home and hidon-desktops
  • even the audio daemon

when psx4m starts up?

That would defiantly save processing power


These are all system daemons that would just re-start if they are ever killed or stopped.

I don't think you would want to hack your N900 to disable the restart features of these daemons. Even if you COULD find a way, you would probably lose access to the Maemo5 GUI in such a way that even a reboot wouldn't restore it.

pantera1989 2010-07-26 18:19

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay92 (Post 765357)
Is there any way of disabling things like
  • hidon-home and hidon-desktops
  • even the audio daemon

when psx4m starts up?

That would defiantly save processing power

With PSX4All you could run: "killall pulseaudio" after starting a game. That would stop pulseaudio from working on PSX. I haven't tried it with psx4m though.

To reduce hildon-home and hildon-desktop from hogging the CPU disable most if not all widgets. You can use an App called "Desktop Activity Manager" to disable and enable widgets easily.

nax3000 2010-07-26 20:30

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cddiede (Post 765348)
Of course, Android apps have to run in the Dalvik VM while N900 can run more native code, so we've got that going for us....

I've been hearing that a lot about android. So basically all apps run on a VM? Isn't that.. kind of terrible? For the framerate and everything that is.
Native code all the way.

BTW, we now have GPU accelerated froyo on out N900s so someone HAS to try psx4droid to see how it runs on the N900 + froyo.

Reffyyyy 2010-07-26 20:37

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 765686)
I've been hearing that a lot about android. So basically all apps run on a VM? Isn't that.. kind of terrible? For the framerate and everything that is.
Native code all the way.

BTW, we now have GPU accelerated froyo on out N900s so someone HAS to try psx4droid to see how it runs on the N900 + froyo.

I tried it, it doesn't work. Goes to black screen.

Jay92 2010-07-26 21:00

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On previous versions of psx4all etc
The Audio was off, so to let the games run easier.

How do I turn the sound off on psx4m

giannoug 2010-07-26 21:07

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay92 (Post 765357)
Is there any way of disabling things like
  • hidon-home and hidon-desktops
  • even the audio daemon

when psx4m starts up?

That would defiantly save processing power

If you kill some of the system processes the watchdogs will start to bark and the device will eventually reboot. Try restarting mce a few times in a row and see what happens :p

Airtux 2010-07-27 03:32

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I have two short questions,
It is possible to configure the buttons?
It is possible to configure to play in full screen?
Tanks.

Magik 2010-07-27 07:33

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

It is possible to configure to play in full screen?
It would be very useful. I have a dark green theme and when I play emu I see two green spaces on both sides of the screen :D

smoku 2010-07-27 10:16

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Guys. I cannot upload updates until the competition voting is finished.

Magik 2010-07-27 10:50

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
So only 3 days left? :)
Can't wait what will bring us new update :D

smoku 2010-07-27 10:55

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Looks like I'm going to loose with Destroid :(

infected69 2010-07-27 11:27

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 766260)
Looks like I'm going to loose with Destroid :(

i just voted on you :)

gazadi 2010-07-27 11:31

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Just voted for you too smoku :D

emorace 2010-07-27 11:34

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
voted, and donated some bucks :D
please keep up the good work!

megaexer 2010-07-27 11:36

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I also voted for psx4m

maxximuscool 2010-07-27 11:44

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
where do i vote Smoku?

megaexer 2010-07-27 11:49

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58990

atilla 2010-07-27 11:57

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
have voted to you too smoku.

dobra robota rob tak dalej:)

SakkeMO 2010-07-27 12:53

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Dont worry Smoku, practically you have already won :) If you think about it, psx emulator vs some "5 minutes of fun" asteroids game?

Boemien 2010-07-27 13:04

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Dont worry Smoku, practically you have already won If you think about it, psx emulator vs some "5 minutes of fun" asteroids game?
Hey it's not funny!! :D

lordboro 2010-07-27 13:09

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
You have already won smoku.

And you have a popolarity like a star in maemo world (blog or forum dedicated), so don't worry :D

ikirk 2010-07-27 13:14

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
also voted for you smoku.

pantera1989 2010-07-27 13:19

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Calling Destroid 5 minutes of asteroid fun is disrespectful. It's a great game and I am very impressed by it.

But psx4m with all its possibilities is much better in my opinion. I voted for it. I wish you could vote for more than one and give them points like 3 points for first choice, 2 for second and 1 point for the third choice.

smoku 2010-07-27 13:24

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SakkeMO (Post 766410)
Dont worry Smoku, practically you have already won :) If you think about it, psx emulator vs some "5 minutes of fun" asteroids game?

I do admire people that spent a lot of time developing a game from scratch. I do know how time consuming and tiering effort this is.

That's why I voted for "Skid Stone". :)
It was a hard choice between Skid Stone and Desteroid, so we voted at home and my wife overruled me ;)

stooobs 2010-07-27 13:25

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
hi ive never had a reason to sign up as anything i needed to know has already been explained but i had to sign up just to vote for this thanks buddy

emorace 2010-07-27 14:52

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
good chance to donate, dont forget:
http://pledgie.com/campaigns/9055

111 Votes, 10 Pledges


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