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sjgadsby 2010-02-16 00:39

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewan (Post 528491)
Do we actually have to ditch the name?

There's certainly an appeal in getting away from "'Foo' is the operating system, while 'foo' is the community, fool!" discussions. However, I don't know if the Moblin folks would be happy with Maemo "winning" the continued use of "maemo.org" for the community.

And please, not WeeGo.

mece 2010-02-16 00:56

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Whew.. long thread..

Here are quick pros/cons with MeeGo:
Good
1. linux foundation
2. fully open source (so they claim. We'll see)
3. Qt + GTK+, like maemo5! (quim here: "Except that MeeGo also supports GTK+"

Bad
1. Kinda seems like moblin + Qt, eventhough it should be Maemo with a little moblin magic mixed in imo.
2. switch to rpm. I don't use rpm, but I'm sure it's fine. But since apt is fine too, and we already use it, so why not stick to it? See bad number 1.
3. Horrible name! MeeGo. Me, My, I. All this egocentric crap has already been used by companies I hate. Maemo is a very cool name, and I really really want it to remain.

zerojay 2010-02-16 01:08

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 528515)
However, I don't know if the Moblin folks would be happy with Maemo "winning" the continued use of "maemo.org" for the community.

They don't seem happy with Maemo "winning" anything at this point.

daperl 2010-02-16 01:24

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewan (Post 528470)
That's a bit silly. Why restrict yourself to a single distribution at all? My main desktop systems run Fedora, but when I wanted to install the Maemo SDK I didn't try to shoe-horn it into a system it wasn't designed for, I just created an Ubuntu VM and ran it in that. It got the environment it wanted, and I got it nicely sandboxed into the bargain.

Ouch, you put a scratchbox in a sandbox.

quipper8 2010-02-16 01:31

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
from irc #meego here is some info on what is coming from where:

they both are already about 80% common
phone specific stuff coming from maemo
netbook stuff from moblin
media indexer(Tracker) from maemo
early boot stuff from moblin
SDK from maemo 6 will be used with a few tweaks

sjgadsby 2010-02-16 02:25

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 528548)
They don't seem happy with Maemo "winning" anything at this point.

While I'm sure individuals within the Maemo division have their own opinions on Debian vs Fedora, DEB vs RPM, etc., Nokia's interest with Maemo has been in building a winning mobile OS so they can move hardware and push services. Companies working upstream is the best situation for open source projects, and it has suited well Nokia also, as forking leads to too much work. Now though, they've been given an opportunity to combine with another effort that's some 80% similar on foundation technologies. As Nokia's focus is on the UI/UX and their "differentiation" apps, I'm not convinced they had much cause to fight battles about "inconsequential" low-level stuff.

euanandrews 2010-02-16 02:46

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 527251)
Translation to end users: getting MeeGo apps to run on top of Maemo 5 shouldn't be a rocket science and maybe they just work. MeeGo will attract more developers to this API = more apps = more joy for N900 users.

Understand what your saying, and I see the benefits...

But the question I have that many other N900 owners will have, is not if we will have more apps...that is obvious...the question is will the Maemo 5 firmware/OS be updated, will the N900 get MeeGo?

Maemo 5 is great, but it has so many missing features and settings...
Portrait mode, contact groups, STK (Sim Toolkit), video calling, MMS, Ovi Suite, syncing....the list goes on...

It would be a kick in the teeth if Nokia provided no official support from here onwards for the N900

ajflex 2010-02-16 02:48

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
this is not a joke
http://www.telecompaper.com/news/art...spx?cid=718755


meego is going be on the flagship nokia n900

wmarone 2010-02-16 02:50

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajflex (Post 528628)
meego is going be on the flagship nokia n900

You and I must have very different interpretations of that first sentence. Nowhere does it say the N900 will be getting MeeGo, only that Maemo is the OS Nokia uses on the N900.

arkanoid 2010-02-16 03:06

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Google: Mi-Go ;-)


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