Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

Indeed. There are custom kernels avaialbe for overclocking, hacks for all sorts of stuff which have been made easy by the fact most of the system is open, with the source available.

None of which means Nokia is or should be under any obligation to release code it doesn't think is finished. Not only is it in a different reputational situation to John Q Hacker, it is probably legally vulnerable as the OEM of the hardware should the firmware it releases cause problems. That's why it has QA processes. It might be nice if it were developing in a more bazaar style fashion, but while it is the design authority that isn't likely for reasons of liability. With meego being at arms length, the situation may change.

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 

As a side note, my N900 is extremely fast, running really well and also NEVER crashed. Oh, I'm running PR1.2 @ 1Ghz and I'm going to 1150Mhz today (500Mhz min).

I also restored a backup from PR1.1.1. Everything works like a charm.
I knew what I did, if you don't then buy an iPhone or whatever. Stop making these stupid posts. They have nothing to give to the community. Noone forced you to install the leaked, stolen, missing, whatever and fake binary. Also, don't forget to make a byby thread.

/rant

Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

What complete and utter rubbish. The source code for a lot of the firmware is NOT open source.

In answer to the question the thread title poses.

Yes. Totally. 100%.

Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

Well then. Hack around the problems that some people are having and help them instead of justifying with me why you think that you're right in this situation pertaining unfinished firmware that has proven to a few that it was not ready for prime time.

I'm sure they will welcome the solutions you deliver.

You're still overlooking that if a vendor such as Nokia were to put out something so unfinished that you could no longer run, use, update or fix what was wrong with the platform, they'd be sued quicker than you could type your next sentence.

Simply put, this isn't a problem about it being opensourced or not. This is a problem of an update that was not quite ready and people jumped the gun. Some mixed results, a lot of good, some bad, some angry, some happy... some sad.

Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

Nokia: These Apple basterds faked loosing their new iphone! We need to fake loosing our X8. Btw, we need some Beta-testers for the upcoming (when Apple releases something really nice) firmware, let's give them maemoers a leaked version...

@Nokia: Don't fool your customers, it's the only thing left after LOOSING your market leadership because of not being interested in GENERAL USEABILITY! I liked every Nokia phone, but always hated how ignorant and not helpfull at all a company could be!

Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

To the OP:

I think you are asking the wrong question. To me, there is no such thing as 'to blame' anybody when installing leaked, not ready firmware. Nobody forced anybody to do this. On the other side I am also not seeing the other extreme like 'it was not right' or even 'it is illegal'.

I think it is OK to do whatever you decide (as long as it influences only yourself / your property), as long as there is no whining afterwards and (that is the more important point) blaming anybody.

We are all free to do what we want to our property, but with freedom comes responsibility. For example the responsibility not to point fingers after somebody decided to do something risky and it went down the hill crashing and burning :D

Summary:
Do what you want, but when you leave the path, do not complain about being able to leave it, when you break a leg.

Best regards,
Corwin

Re: how old is the leaked pr 1.2 ?
 

@gerbick: One harmless answer might have been.. I think I love you baby, after PR1.3 gets released I am all yours :D

Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

This analogy does not work well.

This leaked fw was newer and with more fixes and enhancements than PR 1.1.1. So maybe you should say it was cooked properly but "possibly" with some stale ingredients. To me, it tasted just fine with no stomach aches even after 24 hours.

N900 was near raw when released. PR 1.1.1 is still a little undercooked. This leaked firmware is better cooked imho. I know coz I've tasted it myself. From this experience, I've learned that official build of PR1.2 will be quite a tasty meal. :p

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 

Since PR 1.2 hasn't been (officially) released yet, I can't rate it. Once it will be available over the official Nokia resources like OTA Update or NSU, I'll come back and do the poll.
I won't flash a leaked version from unknown sources on a 600€ device risking to break it wothout any warrenty protection.

Re: [Opinion Leaked PR1.2] Are we really to blame?
 

I do not exactly know to whom you are referring by "we", but if you mean people who have downloaded leaked fw from torrent/mediafire/rapidshare etc. source, read flash guides, flashed device with this image, found problems, came here to post about problems and ask for help then i would say that yes.

Fo f sake. Do you install stuff e.g. to your windows from random sources just because you are bored. Do you understand what kind of security threat these people are? Huge. People should take responsibility of their own actions. Sometimes I just think that oddly behaving mass of users are probably just teenagers who have not yet realised thing or two :|