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Recently two more persons got involved, and we are working to redo the base in a more sane and maintainable way, then we can process with getting more of the hardware enabled in Sailfish and polishing the port. As for dual-boot, it seems technically possible to me in the same fashion as Gemini PDA (multiple boot partitions + selecting the one to boot from at device startup though key combination or menu). However, don't take my words as confirmation, as there might be more difficulties with modifying bootloader of retail devices ("thanks" to Secure Boot) compared to development prototypes. |
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Thanks a lot for your answers TheKit. I hope you can share more details in the near future!
I'll buy the Pro1 day one without any hesitation, but having multiboot is a key milestone for me before I can use it as my main device: I don't want to use Android as my main OS, which means I am looking forward to having a usable Sailfish port, and I need to run some APKs on a regular basis too (in a dual boot, I don't mind). Thanks to you and the two other contributors for your work on the Sailfish port, I think it is safe to say that it is very much appreciated here. |
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Looking forward to more images like these. Found on the twitter channels.
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Where's the N900 vs Fxtec comparison?
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Here are the promised images, compared it with N900 and an iPhone X
https://postimg.cc/gallery/1kg8sc3qi/ My overall impressions - God, it looks awesome !! The phone looks better in person than on the photos. The phone itself is built like a tank. The screen is gorgeous. The keyboard is a little bit wide for my taste, but not something that would be a dealbreaker. The layout is different from PC, there is a learning curve, but it would be possible to blind type after you are getting used to this layout(and probably it would be better for your carpal tunnel syndrome) I don't know what else to add, I'm super excited for this opportunity to play with pre-production device and to meet cool people that are passionate with their work. Thanks Chen for inviting me, I doubt that any other phone manufacturer would invite some random guy from the internet to play with expensive phone prototype :D Quote:
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About this, when (if ?) new layouts are released, will it be possible to order only the new keyboard or touchs and to change it by ourself ? |
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Considering how close we are, do we have an exact release date yet?
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Cpt Obvious asks: Considering we have no exact release date, how do you know we are close? :D
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Close to July...? "Shipping globally is estimated to be July 2019" |
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It's close.... Closer than you might think...
Just saying |
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Or is that not obvious for captain obvious? |
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Soon™ = Close
Well, I hope not :D |
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IOW, we do not know that we are close. We only assume. |
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And do you remember what they say about assuming...? :eek: |
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Chen said before, "Shortly" - Not "Soon™" or "Close".
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Btw, is there any information about gestures with screen off, like double tap to wake screen or like oneplus has (like draw a "v" to turn flashlight on or off or media controls)?
I'm more interested to know about the simple double tap to wake screen. |
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I must say the supported lte bands make this device usable in many parts of the world! However it's hard to see this phone as a daily driver without scandic keyboard. I could maybe get the qwertz (german) keyboard and remap some letters (ü at least). Scandic and qwertz seem close enough. I assume this is possible with modern phones.
I'd still have to get accustomed to swapped places of y and z... Picture of the qwertz layout of fxtec for reference. This has been posted before, though, so no new information. I know this has probably been answered before, but is the preorder only for phones with gwerty-layout? |
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I need glasses... I read the word "usable" as "unusable". |
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Again, need glasses... |
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HtheB take a deep breath, relax and re-read Thoke msg. And please remember that you are on talk.MAEMO.org, albeit in the competitor sub-forum. Moving from being an advocate to a fan does not play in favour of the F(x)tec Pro1.
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People spread wrong and false info. It doesn't matter what device we're talking about. One should never spread false info without knowing the facts. Like I said, name a European country that doesn't support one of the used bands... Ugh... Is there an eye doctor in the house? |
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Which, for those of us in North America, can remember was not the case for the Jolla 1. We were "forced" to be ok with wifi and 2G service only. LTE bands are different in different regions. It is not ubiquitous. |
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Ok apparently I need glasses. I don't why I read usable as unusable...
RIP :D Sorry Thoke! |
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I forced her to switch to ANSI Qwerty and US International (which I did too, from ISO Azerty, and now my life is better). She didn't do the transition so well though, now I'm better at typing Croatian characters than she is, even if I have no use for it since I only know the big words. All that just to say that the transition to ANSI Qwerty for non-English speakers is totally possible thanks to US International. It might be a rocky road, but the reward once used to it is really something (more characters, more flexibility, more devices). Not everyone will like it of course (especially if having multiple devices, then it is mandatory to be able to type without looking at the keys), and not everyone will want to go through the learning curve. That's totally understandable, but doing so opens new horizons. |
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Non backlit are norm here, but as you noticed, they are not exactly standard ones. I used so many different form factors and layouts so I really don't care about position of a few characters. I get why that might be a problem for someone who types the whole day but on a mobile device.....
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@kinggo It has backlight. (Update: just read the previous msg it's not about this device. Sorry :) )
@sslmm: Double tap to wake is supported. (Under Android) |
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I finally pre-ordered.
Found it funny that having a phone number is a mandatory field to order a phone, isn't there an egg and chicken problem ? :D Anyway, pre-order numbers are now in the 17 400 range, more than 12 600 since the first numbers we have seen on this forum (~4800). |
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That trick has been known for at least 75 years. |
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Did I say anything else ? Never spoke of devices if you paid attention ;) |
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#3 - and enough chars here...
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(If you need closure on that anecdote, I started on 401.) |
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You are making an assumption. An assumption that order numbers are a) sequential and b) starting from 1. None of which has been officially confirmed. |
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Everything else is right. |
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