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geneven 2011-08-30 02:54

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n70shan (Post 1078712)
help!! my n900 is only stable up to 800mhz above that it reboots or gets dead . wht to do now? i also wna use it at 1000 mhz

This usually means that you have Smartreflex (two settings) set to 1, to save maximum battery. For most users, you can't go higher than 805 mhz. If you change Smartreflex to 0 you can go faster.

toxaris 2011-08-30 07:14

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n70shan (Post 1078712)
help!! my n900 is only stable up to 800mhz above that it reboots or gets dead . wht to do now? i also wna use it at 1000 mhz

Also depends on your CPU. For example, I can only run my phone in 750 mhz on XLV voltage profile.

niv 2011-08-30 08:07

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
after the upgrade I can no longer use mobile hotspot:
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko
insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko': -1 Invalid module format

dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko
kernel-power-modules: /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko

sak500 2011-08-30 08:26

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toxaris (Post 1078818)
Also depends on your CPU. For example, I can only run my phone in 750 mhz on XLV voltage profile.

Mine's running fine on 1100/125mhz setting. Guess some of us are lucky in their hardware. Pretty nippy and seems like a proper phone.

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 08:31

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niv (Post 1078834)
after the upgrade I can no longer use mobile hotspot:
# insmod /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko
insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko': -1 Invalid module format

dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko
kernel-power-modules: /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power48/nf_conntrack.ko

Please, don't use words like that, it confuse many people about stability of kp48 ...

There is no problems at all with module 'nf_conntrack' under kp48 !!!

Code:

-bash-2.05b# modprobe nf_conntrack
-bash-2.05b# dmesg | tail -5
[31562.612609] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending LOWSIGNAL
[31563.841278] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending HIGHSIGNAL
[31645.819122] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed
[31645.991973] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open
[31981.028259] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (4096 buckets, 16384 max)
-bash-2.05b# lsmod | grep nf_conntrack
nf_conntrack          46012  0
-bash-2.05b#

A++

niv 2011-08-30 08:46

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
thanks for the prompt replay:
so I see that one can load the module using modprobe and not insmod
I will give it a try, are you able to use the N900 as an "access point"?

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 08:50

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niv (Post 1078843)
thanks for the prompt replay:
so I see that one can load the module using modprobe and not insmod
I will give it a try, are you able to use the N900 as an "access point"?

I use tethering with bluetooth or usb on my side ...

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toxaris 2011-08-30 09:24

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sak500 (Post 1078836)
Mine's running fine on 1100/125mhz setting. Guess some of us are lucky in their hardware. Pretty nippy and seems like a proper phone.

Yep, exactly. Some ppl are lucky to have a CPU of good quality.

Estel 2011-08-30 09:37

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
JoikuSpot has been reported working on kp48, but as for - more important, as totally Open - mobile hotspot, I'm not sure. Still, if modules are loading correctly, it's matter of trying yourself, isn't it?

Personally, I also use bluetooth/usb for that... ;)

I'm more concerned about Pali ignoring (not on purpose, due to lack of time) possible seagfaults handling (or whatsnot) errors in kp48. Yea, it's not big deal on it's own - one can save things from user in leafpad, and then mv and chmod it - but I'm worried it may be sign of something more important going wrong. As someone said before, userland applications should not be able to crash whole system like that.

freemangordon 2011-08-30 09:41

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Maybe we could ask pali to add someone else as a maintainer.

Estel 2011-08-30 10:08

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
That would be great. freemangordon, as You're currently compiling kernel with (almost) fully working compcache, would You like to be another maintainer? If yes, I definitely second it :)

freemangordon 2011-08-30 10:23

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1078890)
That would be great. freemangordon, as You're currently compiling kernel with (almost) fully working compcache, would You like to be another maintainer? If yes, I definitely second it :)

Only if you make to the next council :p . Seriously, I would prefer to be the last option for that, lets first see if anyone else wants.

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 10:32

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
On my side, same problem, I have succesfully aplied atop patches to the current kp48, but don't know if I can push the work done ...

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colin.stephane 2011-08-30 10:39

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Ok,

Right now, I have feetched last comits from Pali (the v49 he talk about in his last message).

I'm currently adding atop patches, so if someone want I give it a try for another patch, then say it ...

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freemangordon 2011-08-30 10:45

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin.stephane (Post 1078911)
Ok,

Right now, I have feetched last comits from Pali (the v49 he talk about in his last message).

I'm currently adding atop patches, so if someone want I give it a try for another patch, then say it ...

A++

You can get two patches needed for compcache from here

and if you make compcache sources (from the same post) to be part of the kernel (as a patch) I will owe you a beer :D.

BTW compcache is called ramzswap at kernel.org, will be good to follow naming conventions from there.

geneven 2011-08-30 11:00

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sak500 (Post 1078836)
Mine's running fine on 1100/125mhz setting. Guess some of us are lucky in their hardware. Pretty nippy and seems like a proper phone.

My guess is that you aren't using Smartreflex to save battery.

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 11:01

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1078913)
You can get two patches needed for compcache from here

and if you make compcache sources (from the same post) to be part of the kernel (as a patch) I will owe you a beer :D.

BTW compcache is called ramzswap at kernel.org, will be good to follow naming conventions from there.

Hi freemangordon,

I already see a patch called 'patch_swap_notify_core_support_2.6.28.diff' in the current kp48.

BTW the one already in place is bigger than yours ...

Question : I see in another thread you check compcache on your side with these 2 patches, does it mean you apply your 'patch_swap_notify_core_support_2.6.28.diff' to the already one applied in the kp48 ???

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colin.stephane 2011-08-30 11:05

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Freemangordon,

Ok, time to ease the conversation on this topic !!!

Please come talking live on freenode channel #meamo-kp, I'm waiting for you ...

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freemangordon 2011-08-30 11:30

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin.stephane (Post 1078929)
Freemangordon,

Ok, time to ease the conversation on this topic !!!

Please come talking live on freenode channel #meamo-kp, I'm waiting for you ...

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the requested file

n70shan 2011-08-30 12:38

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
help! i have kp installed when i write in xterm
"sudo kernel-config show" it asks for password. whts this? and even i cant wirte anything .no word in it.how to use this command?

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 12:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1078943)
the requested file

Ok here is build with latest comits from Pali on git + atop kernel patches + compcache kernel patches & fmtx_lock_power patch from freemangordon :

Download from here :

At time I'm writing this, here is latest comits from pali on git :

Quote:

14 hours ago Pali Rohár Enable patch board-rx51-peripherals.diff again, need...
2 days ago Pali Rohár Support for binding and unbinding console drivers ...
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F2thaK 2011-08-30 13:09

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
do we need to enable compcache with the above kp48 version?

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 13:19

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1078995)
do we need to enable compcache with the above kp48 version?

Yes, I have just applied kernel patches from fremangordon ...

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trisha02 2011-08-30 13:44

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
what is the benefit of compcache?

fw190 2011-08-30 13:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Please. Not again.

vi_ 2011-08-30 13:54

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079011)
what is the benefit of compcache?

Do you know what a fork bomb is?

freemangordon 2011-08-30 14:07

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1078995)
do we need to enable compcache with the above kp48 version?

I suspect you won't be able, as compcache .ko module is missing.

colin.stephane 2011-08-30 15:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1079019)
I suspect you won't be able, as compcache .ko module is missing.

OOPS !!!

I have omitted to put the module, it's corrected right now ...

Download from here :

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rooz 2011-08-30 16:15

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
I reinstalled kernel-power 48, but I can't boot anymore. Just a Nokia flash screen and that's it.

trisha02 2011-08-30 16:27

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin.stephane (Post 1079062)
OOPS !!!

I have omitted to put the module, it's corrected right now ...

Download from here :

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as i can see there are many files here..some debs and one tar and 1 ko file.what to do with these..and what will happen after i install them?

freemangordon 2011-08-30 16:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rooz (Post 1079068)
I reinstalled kernel-power 48, but I can't boot anymore. Just a Nokia flash screen and that's it.

flash stock nokia kernel only with maemo flasher (search how to do that), you should be able to boot afterwards

ade 2011-08-30 16:29

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rooz (Post 1079068)
I reinstalled kernel-power 48, but I can't boot anymore. Just a Nokia flash screen and that's it.

No such problem with me, it restarts without problem.
Only thing I noticed is that I could not read hardware info via i2cget

Code:

i2cget -y 2 0x55 0x06 w
Error: Could not set address to 0x55: Device or resource busy


ivgalvez 2011-08-30 18:03

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079072)
...and what will happen after i install them?

It will eat your brain....

freemangordon 2011-08-30 18:05

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1079112)
It will eat your brain....

No chance ;)

trisha02 2011-08-30 20:43

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1079112)
It will eat your brain....

y are you guys after me? what did i do to you? i cant have questions? what will it take to make me understand something which i dont know? will it cost you money? any hard work? no.i believe not. just a few minutes of typing.so what if i am a noob and dont have any expert knowledge on all these terms, i cant have wishes? i cant wish to get the most out my mobile phone which i bought it with my own pocket money? everyone of you was a noob at some point of your life. if the person who helped you to learn all these behaved the way you are doing with me then you wouldnt have been what you are now. GOD has provided you with knowledge so that you can spread it.not to preserve it.when you help someone and if the person become successful because of your help then it will be you,who will feel proud.if you help me.someday i will help you in something which i am expert in.atleast i will give my best. untill now i have installed cssu,k48,both karam's patches,nitdroid,windows 95. did i knew how to do these just after i was born? obviously not.people helped me.even the posts by the members of TMO helped a lot. i believe one day you will understand. m sorry if i have hurt you in any way.just wanted to let these things out which i kept inside for a few days.tc and EID MUBARAK.

vi_ 2011-08-30 21:08

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079175)
y are you guys after me? what did i do to you? i cant have questions? what will it take to make me understand something which i dont know? will it cost you money? any hard work? no.i believe not. just a few minutes of typing.so what if i am a noob and dont have any expert knowledge on all these terms, i cant have wishes? i cant wish to get the most out my mobile phone which i bought it with my own pocket money? everyone of you was a noob at some point of your life. if the person who helped you to learn all these behaved the way you are doing with me then you wouldnt have been what you are now. GOD has provided you with knowledge so that you can spread it.not to preserve it.when you help someone and if the person become successful because of your help then it will be you,who will feel proud.if you help me.someday i will help you in something which i am expert in.atleast i will give my best. untill now i have installed cssu,k48,both karam's patches,nitdroid,windows 95. did i knew how to do these just after i was born? obviously not.people helped me.even the posts by the members of TMO helped a lot. i believe one day you will understand. m sorry if i have hurt you in any way.just wanted to let these things out which i kept inside for a few days.tc and EID MUBARAK.

lol u noob.

woody14619 2011-08-30 21:38

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Trisha, please READ this reply... To everyone else, sorry, but I think this is the only way to fix this at this point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079175)
what did i do to you? i cant have questions?

Yes, you can, if you bring them up in the appropriate forums and threads. You've been told several times that this is not the appropriate place to ask about things you're asking about, but you keep doing it.

And yes, by constantly interrupting the flow of the thread here, you do cause those working on things here to be interrupted in their work, making it harder. Minimally, it takes them longer to catch up on what's going on. Add your posts and replies people make, and it contributes a lot of time (possibly tens of minutes) that could have been spent doing real work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079175)
i cant wish to get the most out my mobile phone which i bought it with my own pocket money?

And what makes you think we haven't all paid for our devices? None of your money made it to anyone posting in this forum! And I'm betting together, we spent more on all our devices here than you personally paid for your device.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079175)
if the person who helped you to learn all these behaved the way you are doing with me then you wouldnt have been what you are now. GOD has provided you with knowledge so that you can spread it.

Had I acted the way you've been acting here, I'd have not been taught anything. Acting like a child results in you being treated like one. This is not a school, nor is it a tech support line. You are not entitled to anything here. If you want to be treated with respect, you must show respect for those around you.

"GOD" provided none of us with knowledge. Knowledge is not given, it's learned. And to learn something, you must first be willing to sacrifice your own time and to listen to those who you ask questions of. People have answered your question, but you don't like the answer, keep insisting you're right, and that they must help you. That's not learning; that's being a stubborn brat.

Why can't you read the thread from the start, and read the answers already posted long ago? Why should we have to give up our time to repeat to you something that's already been talked about hundreds of times already? Why do you keep posting here when you've been told it's not the proper thing to do, or the place to do it?
Why do you insist on installing things you don't understand the function of?

reinob 2011-08-31 07:18

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1079175)
y are you guys after me? what did i do to you? i cant have questions? what will it take to make me understand something which i dont know? will it cost you money? any hard work? no.i believe not. just a few minutes of typing.so what if i am a noob and dont have any expert knowledge on all these terms, i cant have wishes? i cant wish to get the most out my mobile phone which i bought it with my own pocket money? everyone of you was a noob at some point of your life. if the person who helped you to learn all these behaved the way you are doing with me then you wouldnt have been what you are now. GOD has provided you with knowledge so that you can spread it.not to preserve it.when you help someone and if the person become successful because of your help then it will be you,who will feel proud.if you help me.someday i will help you in something which i am expert in.atleast i will give my best. untill now i have installed cssu,k48,both karam's patches,nitdroid,windows 95. did i knew how to do these just after i was born? obviously not.people helped me.even the posts by the members of TMO helped a lot. i believe one day you will understand. m sorry if i have hurt you in any way.just wanted to let these things out which i kept inside for a few days.tc and EID MUBARAK.

@Trisha,

There's nothing wrong with asking questions. What's wrong is to simply land on a thread and ask "what's this for?" without reading the thread.

Doing a search (here or in google/bing/whatever) will also help a lot.

And yes, you're right, nobody is born knowing everything, but if I can give you some advice, the best is to learn for yourself (read read read, and then read some more). Then you can hopefully make an informed question which might benefit everyone.

And to answer your question: with compcache you can make a compressed swap partition IN RAM, which sounds sort of crazy, but has the effect of effectively compressing a part of your RAM, which is obviously good (you get more "real" RAM than the N900 has), at the expense of CPU overhead (compressing/decompressing obviously takes a hit).

In order to use it you need an adapted KP48 kernel as well as a kernel module + the configuration. I for myself am staying away from this (and also from KP48) until things settle and I see a benefit of all this.

I suggest you do the same, as otherwise you will make your N900 an even bigger mess than it is already (unless you really want to experiment that much, but I'd recommend to go one thing at a time, otherwise you will never know which patch/mod brings a benefit to you, and you will also never know what hit you when your N900 is in need of a complete reflash).

In short: take it easy, read, and try not to ask obvious/annoying questions.

Take care.

trisha02 2011-08-31 07:27

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
ok..i understood and i am sorry.do you suggest me to go back to kernel power 47?

reinob 2011-08-31 08:55

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v48
 
@trisha02,

That's your decision. The question you need to ask your self is: what do I need that is not on the stock kernel?

If it's only overclocking, then I'd just go with the latest *stable* kernel-power, and that's AFAIK version 47.

I see nothing (at the moment) in KP48 that would give me a reason to install it. The 720p and compcache are just a beginning, and the kernel doesn't make it work out-of-the-box.

Plus the other patches don't mean anything to me, and I have a certain "distrust" for patches coming from people over here (not meaning to offend, it's just like that), unless I have the chance to review these patches, which I guess I'll never have.

Take the example of the people reporting leafpad crashing. It makes no sense that a kernel would introduce this problem, and although leafpad might well be buggy, this should never be a reason for a computer to crash or reboot.

My long-term-plan would be to either compile my own kernel some day, or hope that some day we can use the upstream kernel (with as few patches as necessary), but that's just not going to happen any time soon.


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