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sicelo 2016-04-15 05:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
it's due to encryption. there's no bug.

canary7 2016-04-15 05:38

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
am in a group where everyone's phone use encryption I never receive any messages. we just hav to wait as he promissed he is working on this.

ceene 2016-04-15 07:27

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hi guys

My recommendation as of today is DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

The first reason is that it's getting people banned, and that's a pretty good reason to stop using it.

The second reason is that, even if you're not banned, it doesn't really matter much because you won't be able to receive messages from almost anyone, and I expect that Whatsapp deprecates old official versions that do not enforce encryption very soon, probably this week.

Once again: My recommendation as of today is DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

So, what happens now? DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

There's two things that need to be done almost simultaneously, as both changes have taken place in the last official release of Whatsapp.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

First off, it's imperative the implementation of encryption. Without this, we won't ever read anything sent to us and, in a few weeks, nobody won't be able to read us.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

The second big change is that the protocol has changed once again. My guess is that this is the thing that is getting people banned right now. I have sources to help with this and the guys from Chats-API are implementing it too, so this will probably be the easy part.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

When will all of this be ready? I quite don't know, although I expect to push for it during this weekend. Stay tuned just in case, if I get some inspiration we may have something ready next week. Otherwise I may just get fed up will all of this and call it a day.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

Anyway, that's all I can tell for the moment. Sorry about the not so good news.

Once again, because I know some people need to be reminded of silly little things like DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

EDIT: I've pushed a new version to the repos. This package is EMPTY and its purpose is to force users who have installed 2.0.27 to STOP USING YAPPARI. Nothing good can come out of it right now.

t-b 2016-04-16 12:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
OK - so you are basically saying that we should stop using Yappari?

Just kidding :D Haven' t started the client since I read your post.
I would rather unsubscribe from Whatsapp though in the current situation and wait until things improve or just forget about Whatsapp and only use Telegram.
Any advise how to unsubscribe without a banning risk?

ceene 2016-04-16 16:31

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hi again, guys

This is just a heads up that I've been working today on all of this.

I've compiled and packaged for maemo libcurve25519, libaxolotl (it's now called Signal), which is the basis of the encryption protocol. The package for libaxolotl-dev is still defective, but it's basically a non issue that will get resolved when there is something ready to be sent to the autobuilder.

Thanks to these two packages, I've also compiled and packaged coderus' libwa, which I've had to backport to use QT4 instead of QT5.

This library makes use of libaxolotl to manage encryption, so this is the solution to the non-received (in truth non decyphered) messages.

I've already begun porting Yappari to make use of libwa API. First module ported has been Registration, which only by itself is not very useful yet, but is nonetheless required.

These are all huge steps, and the thing looks promising. There are two tasks remaining, which although not extremely hard are quite time consuming.

First task is upgrading the protocol. I've been inspecting S40 source code and I've already upgraded the protocol based on this, but it is yet to be tested. Luckily, Chat-API team is gonna release their update soon, so I'll be able to compare implementations and find bugs before anyone (me, primarly) gets banned.

Second task is finishing the port of Yappari to the new API. This is the thing that will take more time, as there are lots of API calls that need to be modified.

However, if everything progresses fine, I could release incomplete versions with reduced functionality (for example, no group chats), so little by little I could be finishing the port while still releasing useful partial implementations.

Now, please, take all of this with a grain of salt. Latest 48 hours have been intense and I can't promise I'll be able to spend so much energy on this, nor that it will blossom onto something that is useful, stable and safe.

I'll be posting everything I can tell you guys, just so you can know what to expect.

sombragris 2016-04-17 20:21

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Thank you ceene for all your work!

Fatalist 2016-04-18 07:49

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Yes, thank you very much ceene for all your hard work with Yappari!

lordjesus 2016-04-18 09:05

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Yo estoy usanso la version 2.0.27 y puedo enviar mensajes y le llegan a mis contactos pero cuando me responden no los recibo :(

Lemon 2016-04-18 13:35

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lordjesus (Post 1503936)
Yo estoy usanso la version 2.0.27 y puedo enviar mensajes y le llegan a mis contactos pero cuando me responden no los recibo :(

Please read that ceene's post from previous page.

mailcomx 2016-04-19 22:01

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
DO NOT USE YAPPARI. ( NO USE YAPPARI.)
Are you undertanding man? this is the end of long road.

Thank Cenne! Hug for everyone until next time!

sicelo 2016-04-19 22:15

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mailcomx (Post 1504041)
DO NOT USE YAPPARI. ( NO USE YAPPARI.)
Are you undertanding man? this is the end of long road.

Thank Cenne! Hug for everyone until next time!

Are you understanding, mailcomx? :p
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...04-17T13:30:36

lordjesus 2016-04-22 00:34

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Ya consegui una forma hice la prueba con el android de mi esposa. le desintalela la ultima version del washapp que es la del lio del cifrado esa version es la 2.6.13 y le instale la version 2.12.510 me toco luchar con el android para que me aceptara la aplicacion pues cuando el wasap busca de hacer la verificacion del numero te dice que la aplicacion caduco. entonces instale de nuevo la ultima version y mande a verificar inmediatamente puse el android en modo avion y active las conexiones de nuevo esto es para que de chance de que llegue el mensaje de verificacion y no lo tome el android automaticamente. entonces mientras corria el tiempo de espera del mensaje de verificacion cerre la aplicacion y la desintale y volvi a instalar la version antesmencionada la 2.12.510 llego el mensaje de texto al android le meti el codigo manualmente y lo tomo..Resultado yappari de lo lindo con el android de mi esposa. De mas esta decir que si el usuario de android vuelve a actualizar a la ultima version del wasap osea la version 2.6.13 fin de la historia. Espero les ayude en algo y los mas expertos en la materia puedan sacar provecho;)

jellyroll 2016-04-22 06:58

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Compadre, why not in English?

mailcomx 2016-04-22 13:32

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Do not use yappari. ;)

rgodinez 2016-04-23 07:51

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mailcomx (Post 1504176)
Do not use yappari. ;)


... until it's fixed
, I'd say.

Ceene (and others) seem to be working on it, and they have found a way to fix it.
Let's be patient and thank Ceene when Yappari finally works.

Regards,
Rafa.

jellyroll 2016-04-23 08:31

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Don't use Yappari. Messages encryption is disabled within groups containing members with an outdated WA version. Don't use Yappari untill it's fixed. But even then i'm not able to recieve messages from iPhone users. Don't use Yappari just be patient. So I stopped using Yappari and switched to sfdroid before being banned.

ceene 2016-04-23 21:43

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jellyroll (Post 1504260)
Don't use Yappari. Messages encryption is disabled within groups containing members with an outdated WA version. Don't use Yappari untill it's fixed. But even then i'm not able to recieve messages from iPhone users. Don't use Yappari just be patient. So I stopped using Yappari and switched to sfdroid before being banned.

Does sfdroid work for N900?

jellyroll 2016-04-23 22:54

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
No I did continued using WA on another Linux device. Sfdroid on the N900 would be something like run NITdroid in a window.

ceene 2016-04-26 14:24

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hi all

Just wanted to report back on my progresses...

I can't tell much except that I'm on it, but I'm having a harder time since my two numbers got banned because of all the tests I have to do.

I'm getting a new number this week, and I hope it'll be enough to continue.

Regards

lordjesus 2016-04-27 00:04

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
thanks for your effort friend ceeneTodos look forward :D

Frasier 2016-04-27 09:41

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Ceene, please set up a donate button so we can thank you for your efforts :)

ceene 2016-04-27 13:39

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frasier (Post 1504493)
Ceene, please set up a donate button so we can thank you for your efforts :)

I've thought about it, and when (I hope it's not an "if") I release next version, I will. Until now I've only maintained something that was written before me, but these weeks are being real work, so I now believe I may have earned a couple beers :)

By the way, I can tell you al that I've been advancing, slow, but progress is being done on the migration to libwa. I still can't send/receive messages but I hope it will happen soon.

After that, protocol upgrade will have to happen. Let's hope they don't enforce the new protocol before I've got fully working the new library, so I can at least go step by steop, instead of jumping two at once.

canary7 2016-04-27 18:09

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
great job man. i dont know if this can help. My other number is not yet banned what happened is that I registered it while it was in a different phone. when its in N900 its like facebook is able to access the sim directly then ban it. I think when its in the other phone access is somehow denied or it tells them that am not N900. I still have v2.27 even though it is like this I dont use it am afraid they will ban this too.

rgodinez 2016-04-27 19:05

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Ceene, I'll pay you a couple of beers in you preferred place in Madrid (i think we share city :) ) even if it finally doesn't work.
You deserve it! :)

rgds,
Rafa.

zammy 2016-04-27 20:40

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceene (Post 1503625)
Hi guys

My recommendation as of today is DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

The first reason is that it's getting people banned, and that's a pretty good reason to stop using it.

The second reason is that, even if you're not banned, it doesn't really matter much because you won't be able to receive messages from almost anyone, and I expect that Whatsapp deprecates old official versions that do not enforce encryption very soon, probably this week.

Once again: My recommendation as of today is DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

So, what happens now? DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

There's two things that need to be done almost simultaneously, as both changes have taken place in the last official release of Whatsapp.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

First off, it's imperative the implementation of encryption. Without this, we won't ever read anything sent to us and, in a few weeks, nobody won't be able to read us.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

The second big change is that the protocol has changed once again. My guess is that this is the thing that is getting people banned right now. I have sources to help with this and the guys from Chats-API are implementing it too, so this will probably be the easy part.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

When will all of this be ready? I quite don't know, although I expect to push for it during this weekend. Stay tuned just in case, if I get some inspiration we may have something ready next week. Otherwise I may just get fed up will all of this and call it a day.

DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

Anyway, that's all I can tell for the moment. Sorry about the not so good news.

Once again, because I know some people need to be reminded of silly little things like DO NOT USE YAPPARI.

EDIT: I've pushed a new version to the repos. This package is EMPTY and its purpose is to force users who have installed 2.0.27 to STOP USING YAPPARI. Nothing good can come out of it right now.

I can't wait to see the new version of yappari ceene...
Be the hero one more time...
Bye by zamn900

juari 2016-05-02 12:45

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
And ceene, If you are ever in Amsterdam..the drinks are on me!
Thanks for your hard work!

lordjesus 2016-05-04 22:57

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
ceene friend and will work no hope or we bid farewell to the application ? :rolleyes:

handaxe 2016-05-05 12:32

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Patience patience patience etc

ceene 2016-05-05 14:11

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
I've just bought a new SIM card so I can continue development... let's hope I don't get banned again!

ceene 2016-05-10 09:50

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hey guys!

Just a little bit of good news! There's a lot of work ahead, but today I've just sent my first ciphered message from Yappari that has been succesfully read on an Android phone with latest Whatsapp installed!

Bad news is... I can't still read messages sent to me, but everything will come!

sicelo 2016-05-10 10:01

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceene (Post 1505308)
Hey guys!

Just a little bit of good news! There's a lot of work ahead, but today I've just sent my first ciphered message from Yappari that has been succesfully read on an Android phone with latest Whatsapp installed!

Bad news is... I can't still read messages sent to me, but everything will come!

Great work!

nag 2016-05-10 12:42

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceene (Post 1505308)
Hey guys!

Just a little bit of good news! There's a lot of work ahead, but today I've just sent my first ciphered message from Yappari that has been succesfully read on an Android phone with latest Whatsapp installed!

Bad news is... I can't still read messages sent to me, but everything will come!

Woooowowowowow !!! Great !

Cyberia 2016-05-10 15:22

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ceene (Post 1505308)
hey guys!

Just a little bit of good news! There's a lot of work ahead, but today i've just sent my first ciphered message from yappari that has been succesfully read on an android phone with latest whatsapp installed!

Bad news is... I can't still read messages sent to me, but everything will come!

thank you, thank you so much for your help....
:)

hdmailx 2016-05-10 21:03

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Thank you Ceene, the force be with you!

hdmailx 2016-05-15 15:44

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hi Ceene, waiting for a good news!!!!!
How can we help you?

Hawksi 2016-05-16 00:53

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
I appreciate your hard work so much and hope you can fix it soon.
Let us know if we can help you.
Thanks a lot!

mailcomx 2016-05-19 15:30

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Then.. Yappari alive again... Thanks! :)

But while, DO NOT USE YAPPARI ;)

canary7 2016-05-20 05:55

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Still waiting checking this everyday hoping for the good news.

ceene 2016-05-20 09:20

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hi guys...

Nothing new for the moment, sorry. I'm having trouble with session keys that I don't know (yet) how to solve. I'll be able to spend a few straigh hours on this this weekend, let's hope I find what's the problem I'm facing now.

Sorry there are no news...

ceene 2016-05-21 10:05

Re: [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features!
 
Hi...

Some bad news today :(

I've been banned once again, this time using a number of KotCzarny. I've already got a few more offers to use other people's numbers, so development is not completely shut down... yet.

Thing is, I'm not still able to send/receive encrypted messages, which are now mandatory, and I get banned very very frequently. This time I didn't even use this phone number for a week and on today's login I've been banned.

So... I'm not giving up yet, but things are starting to look very bad, as much as it hurts me to say it. Even if I get messaging to work properly, I don't know why I'm getting banned, so a Yappari version that lets you use your number for a week and then gets you banned is probably worse that no Yappari at all.

I'm thinking about a Telegram version of Yappari, but I won't start designing that until I completely give up on Whatsapp, as that would split my already limited time on two projects at once, but just wanted to let you know that I will do everything I can to get you guys an instant messaging system that works... somehow, even if on limited form.


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