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Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
I wouldn't say a great deal has been misquoted or taken out of context....
The MAIN problem (despite LOTS of attempts to get any semblance of a dialogue going) is that there's been little-to-no communication, even in the more "official" channels. People aren't asking for a running commentary, they're trying to help w/a constructive dialogue, one that needn't be hugely time consuming & could actually be beneficial if leveraged well.* The record to date hasn't been all that stellar, maybe things will change after the SDK's out, I sincerely hope so... Quote:
*this is precisely what they touted they wanted to do "differently", the expectation hasn't materialised out of nowhere |
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
Misquotes, poor language interpretations, assumptions that have turned into "factoids" (the nokia patent gifting story as an example), fanboy wet dreams that, because some kid on the continent has a blog, all of a sudden becomes reality and all based on FUD.....
the MAIN problem is an inability for an eager fanbase to appreciate that Jolla owe us nothing..... ....yet. We have no builds publicly available, no SDK (OS or application), IDE or simulator (Beyond the patched up build of Qt Creator that MER is using) and no Hardware. What we have is a commitment to deliver at least two of the above against a timeframe that has not yet expired. They're not late and we're not their shareholders. Jolla have consistently stated that the best way to get on board RIGHT NOW, is to support MER. I can certainly appreciate the feeling of frustrated impatience (I have money burning a hole in my pocket right now!), but am happy to wait, given that there is no other viable alternative to the awesomeness of my N9 on the horizen. wait, out |
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
Well this is the Jolla Sailfish MWC 2013 staff I guess:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD8gNreCYAESQDO.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD8VeuXCMAEkH17.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD8nxKQCQAAAKxw.jpg:large tbh I am not really impressed how things are being done :( "Scan my QR code" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD8HJRiCAAA9CJk.jpg:large Cheap tactics but known to work!!! |
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
Sexy...Sailfish!
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Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
I disagree with the assertion that the only way to engage is via MeR, this isn't what they themselves have communicated, & it's not the only way to engage in useful back-n-forth.
You may feel that anything outside engagement via MeR/Nemo is a "eager fanbase that's owed nothing", but I don't think this whole exercise is a total waste of time, at least yet. |
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Did I read no SDK? :p
Go to sailfishos.org and enjoy ;) |
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w00t!!!! Decent overhaul of that horrid site too, awesome!
Hope Windows & OSX SDK is available by the end of the mth too. Qt dev 101, free course being offered at Eliademy (CBtec) https://twitter.com/melsop74/status/306077828309450752 Man there's lotsa well-organised doco there now, far cry from the original site, this is one of my fav sections so far: https://sailfishos.org/design.html Some interesting (yet still somewhat opaque) sentences in About: Quote:
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Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
Good, looks like they are resolute to open source it after all.
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The entire stack? I don't think it's 100% clear yet on the full chain.
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Is there still support for the sdk image?
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