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Actually, the only number that really counts is the number that paid! Currently zero, although I still am planning on purchasing...

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Who claim to have ordered! Perhaps all accounts here are just sockpuppets.

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Seriously ?
If you want the last word, then take it, I leave it to you...

I don't need your approval to take with a pinch of salt everything I see from f(x) or anyone else. I don't know how they are allocated, but maily those are only pre-orders numbers, they are not real orders in any way, and everything can change when people are asked to give real money.

I simply shared a fact : I got a pre-order number in the range 17400. If you don't want to take that simple fact as it is, and try to make me say something else, then so be it, I won't fight more... :rolleyes:

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I would take that number with a pinch of salt. Technically the pre order needs no deposit, so I'm sure that number is inflated with speculators and people who have no intention of buying the device. Hopefully not many...

Regardless that number is impressive. Just based on interest alone, fxtec team has drummed up quite the response. I wish they did more to get their name out there though.

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Talked to my neighbour who has a Galaxy Gear and i'm now really thinking of getting one to use with the Pro1, how much of a bad idea is it?

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Really depends on your use case, if you need it just for notifications, take a look at Chinese brands or hybrids like Kronaby, both are cheaper than Galaxy Gear.

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grab an old pebble still very useful. but depends what you need.

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I also was looking at the Amazfit Bip because of that a e s t h e t i c LCD-like watch face.

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Huawei looks good, but I prefer classic-like hybrids.

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This sounds interesting. Never thought of it that way. I do see the use... On top of all the pros you said, I also wouldn't need to fiddle with keyboard layouts on any OS running on virtual machines...

I'd rather use one keyboard layout only, though. (I think) I can only buy machines with Scandic layout in Finland... And ordering abroad complicates warranty matters. So that's a con. But some keyboards can be changed to another layout, at least with some laptops...

But anyways, that's a good point and I need to think this through! Thanks!

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I must add that one of the things that triggered the transition in my case was the purchase of a Xiaomi Mi Air 13", only available in Qwerty. Warranty could be an issue, but quickly forgotten when the laptop is twice cheaper thsn anything similar. The benefitsjbenefits ust outweighed the costs.

Eventually, once I got used to US-International and how to make accented characters, changing all my other keyboards for ANSI Qwerty was easy, even though some of them were expensive keyboards. I could sell them and finding ANSI versions was not an issue since they are the most common.

I know that numerous people in France did that trandition too, although mainly in the geek-mech-keyboard community.

Apart from that, did I say that I cannot wait anymore for the friggin' Pro1?

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Thoughts on the phone possibly being delayed, everyone?

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why think about that already?

summer just started 3 days ago, almost 3 months left to make it a summer release...

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no news usually means good news

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I'm just wondering how it will happen. At some point does not funding have to be collected before some number of units are manufactured? It is hard to believe that they will manufacture say 2 to 10 thousand units without some guaranteedd payment. Any thoughts?

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well, Chen said more than once that they will not take any money in advance.

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Well provided one has enough of the good stuff on bank account(s) it's no bother to blow some M€ just for the fun of it :p

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Well considering they're teasing another Meetup on their Twitter feed, I doubt they're close to release. Also depending on how polished the device was (both hardware and software) during these meets will probably give a super rough idea of how ready they are.
I think other users that saw it in person can chime in on that
I would think July release won't happen, but would love to be proven wrong...

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Seen it person, absolutely no idea how close they are. Also keep in mind that they're creating the device for themselves, so we might expect some delays due to some small imperfections.

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because chen probably wants more than just people here to know about the product?

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To nitpick a bit...

Looking at the advertisement on Twitter and just about all (don't quote me on that) the articles on the OP, it's pretty obvious that it has been targeted at crApdroid users first and foremost, so there's statistically much more people *out of TMO* that know about the Pro1 than *in here*.

NB: No need to argue about shAtdroid being pushed forward, I'm pretty sure most of us here have reached the consensus that it is a necessary evil.

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oh, but do they? Or even if they do, do they really care?
Statistically, everybody is a smartphone user this days. And yet, 95% of those have no idea what version of OS their phone is on, or that playstore even exist. They just know that their new phone does not have something that the old one did. And so on.......
Advertisement in android world is much more needed than here. We all know what are we getting and why. Out there, sheeps will just get samsung because it's the only brand in prominent place everywhere.

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It's a give and take. Yes the meetings are probably good for feedback and last minute tweaks. But I doubt they can make any significant changes this late in development. Just polish, perfect, and start selling... That hardware isn't getting any younger

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Just saw a post on their Twitter account. There's meetings around the world in july....
Wait is going to be as painful as possible I guess

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So are you trying to say that nobody should advertise anything if they can't turn everyone's head? There's a lot of Apple (or whatever brand) fanboys who wouldn't buy the Pro1, but they are not the target audience anyway. But there is masses of people who still haven't heard of the Pro1 but could be potential customers. For example, none of my friends still haven't heard of the Pro1, so more advertising is needed to reach the target customers. F(x)tec is a completely unknown company for the most of people, after all. Showing people that the product really exists and even giving them a chance to try it out is a great way make more customers.

Besides, do you really think that these guys, who arrange these meetings, normally spend their days assembling the phones? So arranging meetings will make delays to the process getting phones ready to ship? In Dirkvl's home factory it was like this perhaps, but not in a modern phone company.

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Guess how painful it is after you’ve seen the device..

Also it’s painful to know that what you’ve seen still not ready as a product.

It’s already better than some of devices on the market, but at the time of me seeing it, it wasn’t ready to be shipped.

On positive side, you can see the attention to details and the work that was already done, and it’s worth waiting.

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I'm not sure what you were getting at, but if it all boiled down to this:

...then you may have missed my NB :(

Actually, it sorta feels like you were lashing at me for some reason, while I was merely stating a fact: there's more advertisement in the "Android world", as you put it, than on TMO.
Whether people in the "Android world" care is moot: just because the Pro1 has been presented here doesn't mean every single TMO members is interested in it either.


In any case, can't wait for more news about the hardware... and of course Leste, SFOS and the likes (if there's actually more than those two in the works) :D

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I would say same as DDark, it is hard when someone show You a candy, give a taste, and after that, takes it away...

We must think positive... And I trust Chen that he will tell us if some delaying is coming...

I don't like "gtmaster303"s negative attitude...

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With Dave999 having left ship, there's a [h|r]ole to fill :D

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Even odder you know; two colleagues of mine who are SFOS users had not heard about it before I told them; the other is a Jolla sjb1 user and the other one has a Jolla-C

Both of them have been communicator users in the time of Nokia phones, and were fairly interested about f(x) when I told them about it.

I somehow would have imagined that all Sailfish users would already have known about it, seems I was wrong.

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Maybe we here in TMO live in the dome? Outside others, watch porn or "bold and beautiful" and they don't know anything about new keyboard-phone?

We should advertise it more? - I may have done my little part of that...

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no, it's not like that at all. My point was that it won't sell just because it exists and it has android.

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Maybe I missed it, but care to elaborate on what shortcomings makes it not ready for launch?

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Negative and critical are 2 different things...

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Irrelevant for now, all of them are known to the team, and they are working to provide you complete product.

You cannot judge an incomplete product.

If you want, ping me after I get the the device, and I’ll answer all of your questions.

Edit: If you so curious about the device, and want to provide a critical view for it, maybe you just need to attend next community meeting.

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Thanks for that. Complete or not, I think it's good to highlight shortcomings so they can improve. Also gives a better vantage point of what's keeping them from release.
Trust me I would jump at the chance of seeing the device in person, but I'm just waiting for them to cross the pond. Hopefully not over the next few weeks as life has gotten hectic.

A lot of people on this forum might mistake me for being negative, but I want this device to succeed probably more than most. Regardless I'm just here to get info like everyone else and give feedback where I can. I've owned just about every qwerty Android over the years and have used Android exclusively for years now. The success of this device will bear heavily on software, slightly less on hardware. Design doesn't matter as much to success (ex: Google pixel line is terribly designed but still sells well because of software and hardware support from the big G). Although personally I think the device is too big, hopefully it handles smaller than the dimensions suggest. Coating and textures play a big role in that. But for the most part I think that ship has set sail. As an exercise I picked an LG V20 to replace my tired pixel 1 to see if I could handle a bigger phone in preparation for the Pro1. Side note: quad DAC should be in every phone, holy crap!

Really hope they roll it out soon

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For those waiting for sailfish news, looks like there is progress!!

https://twitter.com/Mister1Magister/...06462528905216

:)

x

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https://twitter.com/jolladevices/sta...48354331860993
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IB_60jz6p...ur+Content.jpg

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So ehm, who is Batman and who is Robin exactly in this case? :p

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I guess that's up for everyone to pick who's who ;)

The way I see it, Jolla if slapping F(x)tec with that "F(x)tec [...] didn't decide [...]" part.

It could work this other way too, I suppose: "See, Jolla ? We didn't make anything official with you, yet we get SFOS ! /slap"

Obviously, I have no idea on what's been going on (or not) between those two, so be nice with me :rolleyes: