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popolon

2015-06-29 16:36

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmoli (Post 1475118)

Quickly analysed, seems interrupt pin is staying low, or you have another thing running fighting for i2c resources.

Check output of ps ax | grep toh
should be about like this (maybe additional grep..)

Code:

   94 ?        S      0:00 [irq/331-toh-eve]

  742 ?        Ssl    0:02 /usr/sbin/tohd

18839 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/bin/harbour-tohkbd2

20784 ?        Sl     0:02 /usr/bin/harbour-tohkbd2-user

instructions part 2: https://pastebin.com/nfmKZdJ7

I have also /usr/sbin/tohkbd running. Is this from tohkbd 1 that i also have?

popolon

2015-06-29 17:10

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by popolon (Post 1475157)

I have also /usr/sbin/tohkbd running. Is this from tohkbd 1 that i also have?

Ok, by disabling tohkbd.service this new keyboard started working.

kimmoli

2015-06-29 18:36

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaminj (Post 1475136)

Can I throw in the suggestion of Ctrl-Alt-Bksp as "restart lipstick" (in honour of the shortcut to kill xwindows on linux desktops) and keep ctrl-alt-del as full restart?

Seems reasonable.
As i can do what ever i want with the sw, and i even might listen to users.

kimmoli

2015-06-29 18:39

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by popolon (Post 1475159)

Ok, by disabling tohkbd.service this new keyboard started working.

yes, that is for tohkbd rev 1. It will cause race conditions on i2c etc.
uninstall the tohkbd package completely.

TMavica

2015-06-29 19:33

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Buying Black TOHKBD at high price
PM me

kimmoli

2015-06-29 20:12

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1475123)

Well, Mac HW is passable at least... (I am running Linux on my main work desktop)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...tosh_SE-30.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1475123)

Thanks, this is good except for one thing I wonder. If my UI's botched, how come I can click the "restart Lipstick" button after invoking the three-finger-salute on the HWKBD?? :eek:

Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

http://kimmoli.com/tauhkaa/ss20150629-230655-361.png

tobasmogaster

2015-06-29 22:39

Re: TOHKBD rev2

funkyotherhalfshop says in stock, but also unavaible? im confused and actually full of hope that i could buy anotherone.. :D

pichlo

2015-06-29 22:53

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1475149)

FYI I received mine today (#71, qwerty/white/white/kelo) and it wasn't on the spreadsheet.

Cheers Dirk et al!

<AOL>Me too!</AOL> Totally unexpected, I thought QWERTY's turn has not come yet. It was a nice present for my namesday too! :) Thanks, Dirk et al!

Everything works fne.

HtheB

2015-06-29 23:12

Re: TOHKBD rev2

many users are going wild when they received their TOHKBD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uacFK83xWS4

vistaus

2015-06-30 10:47

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1475139)

You were probably hoping for a Windows key too...

ALT+F4 works on my Linux desktop as well...

vistaus

2015-06-30 10:48

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1475183)

<AOL>Me too!</AOL> Totally unexpected, I thought QWERTY's turn has not come yet. It was a nice present for my namesday too! :) Thanks, Dirk et al!

Everything works fne.

I received my QWERTY one more than one week ago so QWERTY was already sent out...

usenix

2015-06-30 11:51

Re: TOHKBD rev2

So, while I'm (im)patiently waiting on my qwerty keyboard (ordered though funkyotherhalf at the beginning of the kickstarter campaign), I'm wondering about the software side.

I have to type French and also German texts on a regular basis, and on the desktop, I make ample use of the compose key for accents and umlauts.
Are there any plans to support the compose key in general / in the upcoming layout configurator? Or would this have to be supported on the OS side first?

I just hope that I can put it onto the radar of our development heros for the not-so-distant future.

Cheers,

usenix

Kabouik

2015-06-30 12:10

Re: TOHKBD rev2

On a similar matter, I have to type in English and French everyday. I don't mind keeping only one layout for that (it's too annoying to change each time I change language, even with the touch keyboard), but what would be really convenient would be merged dictionnaries and suggestions. Is that even possible? It's not directly related to the TOHKBD software side, but it's still related and perhaps Kimmo knows the answer?

w00t	2015-06-30 12:59

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobasmogaster (Post 1475182)

funkyotherhalfshop says in stock, but also unavaible? im confused and actually full of hope that i could buy anotherone.. :D

Or, in my case, a first one. :-)

malkavian

2015-06-30 14:41

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1475213)

I received my QWERTY one more than one week ago so QWERTY was already sent out...

I am waiting yet my qwerty TOHKBD at Spain. It is #104 and was marked as sent (or going to be sent) the first day the google drive document appeared (June the 17th).

kimmoli

2015-06-30 20:46

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1475212)

ALT+F4 works on my Linux desktop as well...

But not on Jolla. Just re-tested, nothing.

szopin

2015-06-30 22:54

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmoli (Post 1475288)

But not on Jolla. Just re-tested, nothing.

Still can't believe it's not windows
http://i.imgur.com/02PQesw.png

ssahla

2015-07-01 11:35

Re: TOHKBD rev2

As a mac user I'd love to have ctrl-q to quit app and ctrl-w to close tab... But ideally, these should be configurable in the OS, so everyone could have what they want.

tetris11_

2015-07-01 11:40

Re: TOHKBD rev2

No! One size fits all -- deal with it! (⌐■_■)

PekkU

2015-07-01 13:10

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1475221)

)but what would be really convenient would be merged dictionnaries and suggestions. Is that even possible? It's not directly related to the TOHKBD software side, but it's still related and perhaps Kimmo knows the answer?

Is there any plans getting suggestions available even from a single dictionary? Now that the virtual keyboard is hidden when using TOHBD also the language selection and suggestions are hidden.

oenone

2015-07-01 15:40

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by PekkU (Post 1475371)

Is there any plans getting suggestions available even from a single dictionary? Now that the virtual keyboard is hidden when using TOHBD also the language selection and suggestions are hidden.

Dirk's response is here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1463442)

Quote:

Originally Posted by oenone (Post 1463415)

I hope auto-complete would not be completely disabled and that it would be available just as a bottom row of the screen, and by pressing enter on the keyboard we can select the highlighted word, or tap the screen to select any other word.

This is useful if you need to write in a language which you do not know completely and even though you can get the grammar right, the spelling is quite a bit more complicated, such as French for many English-speaking learners.

Ideally, the autocomplete could be turned on or off in the settings to appease both those that don't find it helpful, and those that find it helpful.

or binded to ALT or whatever, why not increase your typing speed!?

but don't know if this is possible, other stuff needs to be fixed first

I hope it will be possible.

mosen

2015-07-01 17:01

Re: TOHKBD rev2

#535, qwertz, orange,black,kelo came to my doorstep this morning :D

All is working as far as i could test. perfect!
Only waiting patiently for qwertz mapping.

The worst thing was the 9hours at work, getting noticed by my wife "a pacckage from the netherlands" arrived already this morning.

OOOOOOOOO

Thanks to the TOHKBD team for making this possible!!
And also everyone who contributed.

http://mosushi.net/misc/20150701_181553.jpg

olympus

2015-07-01 17:42

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1475412)

So i guess i should be expecting my qwertz to Slovenia soon then :>

ejjoman

2015-07-01 18:15

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1475412)

Mh, I have QWERTZ #285 and still waiting for my two kbds... Hope they will arrive soon :)

Kabouik

2015-07-01 18:41

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by olympus (Post 1475414)

So i guess i should be expecting my qwertz to Slovenia soon then :>

Not so sure, the first Azerty were delivered long ago and still waiting mine despite a low order number. I guess it depends on the color combinations and stuff.

kimmoli

2015-07-01 19:10

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by PekkU (Post 1475371)

Is there any plans getting suggestions available even from a single dictionary? Now that the virtual keyboard is hidden when using TOHBD also the language selection and suggestions are hidden.

Jolla invoker[1287]: WARNING: Xt9: not supported language "toh"

The language is set in the configuration file for the keyboard layout, atm it is minimized TOHKBD when kbd is attached.
However with coming sailfish update (not propably on next yet) the Maliit server is going to support VKB hiding when external keyboard is connected, so even this minimized will go away.

Need to check is it even possible then to use Xt9 with external keyboard, iirc i tested it by changing language to something else than "toh", and it kinda worked. But it requires the current TOHKBD vkb layout to access the suggestions. Also, there would need to be TOHKBD config file for every language..

coley

2015-07-02 10:27

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Thanks to the TOHKBD team.
#139 qwerty arrived this morning

-Coley.

Kabouik

2015-07-02 11:51

Re: TOHKBD rev2

A colleague told me there was a parcel for me today at work. I immediately started to get excited, and focused on hiding it because, you know, getting excited for a stupid smartphone's keyboard would be lame. But still, 30 sec later I was trying to get my package.

I ended up with a bunch of plastic boxes to archive microtubes. I hate everything today.

seiichiro0185

2015-07-02 18:10

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Yay, my qwertz tohkbd (backer #60) arrived today!

Thanks a lot TOHKBD-Team!

hedwig

2015-07-02 18:47

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Got mine today, #28 qwertz and I'm delighted. Thanks Dirk, Andrew and Kimmo.

Just one question, that has probably Bern asked before, but I couldn't find it:

Is there a way to disapbe the virtual kbd in terminal APP?

Cheers Jo

Wonko

2015-07-02 19:07

Re: TOHKBD rev2

#122, qwertz, black/black/walnut (Sorry for the extra hassle, Dirk.), Shipped to Germany.
Arrived today. :)
First impression is very good. :)
Thanks a lot to the entire team! :)

mscion

2015-07-02 19:43

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 1475558)

#122, qwertz, black/black/walnut (Sorry for the extra hassle, Dirk.), Shipped to Germany.
Arrived today. :)
First impression is very good. :)
Thanks a lot to the entire team! :)

Wow! If my memory serves me right, we have similar tastes! (except mine is qwerty) However, its been so long I can't really remember my order. Hopefully my package will arrive soon to refresh my memory!

shining235

2015-07-02 20:51

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by hedwig (Post 1475554)

Is there a way to disapbe the virtual kbd in terminal APP?
Cheers Jo

touch the menu button at the top right and then you can set VKB behavior to [off].

(written with #349 qwertz)

apfibox

2015-07-02 21:04

Re: TOHKBD rev2

I ordered new Polished Metallic Plastic (alumide) TOH Casing from Shapeways last friday and it arrived today. I just did not like look of my original white - alumide combo. Hassle free business with Shapeways - very pleased. Anybody else wondering about different colors, just upload TOH_casing.STL to https://www.shapeways.com/mymodels?li=nav from https://github.com/dirkvl/TOHKBD/tree/master/CAD to get the ball rolling.

hedwig

2015-07-03 12:48

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by shining235 (Post 1475572)

touch the menu button at the top right and then you can set VKB behavior to [off].

Thanks for the hint. I'v checked that menu, however the symbol was so small that I missed that.

Cheers!

olympus

2015-07-03 13:36

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Today there was a nice surprise waiting for me in the mail.. a pretty black/black/carbon qwertz tohkbd :).. i must say i am very pleased with it. gotta get used to type with it ofc. the only things i miss for now are layout settings, button (combination) for closing apps and support for android apps. the first feeling when i attached it to my jolla reminded me on n900 with it's thickness and it is a nice memory. i feel home again! big thanks to the whole team that made this possible.

the only key that needs more force is the letter 'p'. will see how it progresses.

- typed on tohkbd rev2

olympus

2015-07-03 15:30

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Wanted to play some games with my hwkbd so i installed mupen64plus nintendo 64 emulator. for now.. it doesn't work :P

ggabriel

2015-07-03 15:31

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by olympus (Post 1475635)

Wanted to play some games with my hwkbd so i installed mupen64plus nintendo 64 emulator. for now.. i doesn't work :P

If it's android, it won't work. Known issue.

olympus

2015-07-03 15:33

Re: TOHKBD rev2

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1475637)

If it's android, it won't work. Known issue.

it's not android, that's why i tried it in the first place. android apps support is coming in the next sailfish update.

szopin

2015-07-03 17:04

Re: TOHKBD rev2

wOOt wOOt, 165 arrived, though one is qwertz :/

yes, typed on a tohkbd (looks like the backlight is also bit wonky)

the other seems fine

dirk: qwertz layout purple kbd will be going your way

(backlight is fine after toggling on/off through settings, so just the layout)

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