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Re: N900 UK Networks

It may make sense that the handset would actually be locked too as vodafone are rumoured to be the first uk network to officially offer the handset

Re: N900 UK Networks

I found the MPD employees to be very unproffesional when using the chat function:
Me: Hi, can you tell me if you will be offering the N900 Tmobile contracts again in the future?
MPD: Doubt it.
MPD: Get it on Vodaphone.

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Originally Posted by JBax (Post 372546)

I'm not going to risk it to be honest. Tried the online chat route aswell and the guy confirmed it will be locked. Although he got annoyed when I asked if this was a physical lock to the network or just part of the contract Vodafone has told MPD to sell it as. He just said the word locked.

If I were you, I'd go for SIM-free handset from handtec.co.uk. Slightly more expensive, but peace of mind is included free. ;)

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Originally Posted by jaark (Post 372556)

Obviously it depends on what data the radio provides to user software - I have no idea if it does pass this sort of thing.

I was pretty much paraphrasing my understanding of an article I read a couple of years ago - I've had a quick look, but can't find it right now. I'm no radio comms expert but I do know that signal field strength and the snr are two different and independent things and that the snr can fluctuate but the field strength stays fairly constant with a static receiver and transmitter.

jjx was aking why he had a strong signal indicator (which only shows signal field strength) but very poor data throughput - a situation that can easily be explained by noise affecting transmission.

Yes, SNR and signal strength are different things. Bu I would think that the signal bar you see on your phone is a combination of SNR and Signal strength.

My reasoning is that since the signal is encrypted (with 3G/UMTS) you must first decrypt the signal before you can determine if it's strong or not. Therefore with a high SNR you can't decrypt it properly and nor can you with low quality signal - so I think half of your initial assumption was incorrect, signal bars on phones are not deceptive, they do give you correct information about the 'overall' signal quality, but they don't make the distinction between SNR and signal quality.

On a separate note perhaps jjx was experiencing low data throughput because there were lots of other people using data within his location? With RF bandwidth being such a scarce resource, I would assume the contention ratio would be much much higher than say normal broadband.

A good intellectual debate I'd say ;), better than some of the mindless posts on here. :p

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Originally Posted by andygt (Post 372560)

Unprofessional and infact rude and patronising to me :mad:

Almost take a defensive stand point when asked searching questions beyond the ignorant sheep ones.

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Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 372583)

On a separate note perhaps jjx was experiencing low data throughput because there were lots of other people using data within his location? With RF bandwidth being such a scarce resource, I would assume the contention ratio would be much much higher than say normal broadband.

3G has a feature of "breathing cell", which means that more people are using given cell, less area it can supply with good coverage. This is what I observe on quite regular basis while commuting daily - when train is packed, using internet over 3G is sometimes pretty painful...

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A good intellectual debate I'd say ;), better than some of the mindless posts on here. :p

Yes indeed (I am a great fan of techie-side of mobile technology, in fact), however I don't think we're exactly on-topic here. :)

Re: N900 UK Networks

I received an email from MPD yesterday, stating that the Vodafone contract based handset will be unlocked and unbranded.

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Originally Posted by ddracopo (Post 372674)

I received an email from MPD yesterday, stating that the Vodafone contract based handset will be unlocked and unbranded.

We are talking about the PAYG version which is alot cheaper.

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Originally Posted by JBax (Post 372679)

We are talking about the PAYG version which is alot cheaper.

Therefore buying it on Contract will not be locked to Vodafone only SIMs??

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Still happy with my £331.79 with 3 discounts including Express delivery and extra battery. £392.99 is a good deal would rather spend a little extra and get a sim free version.

MPD is a company I would never use again they was really poor when I got my TP2 and N97 from them. There on my list of internet stores to never use again.