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jolladevices is not jolla

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I totally forgot it will be another 2-3 weeks after they request payment info which they haven't done yet. Considering they're still thick in meetings right now release will probably be mid to late August, possibly later depending on potential slowdowns. It doesn't make sense for them to have these meetings if they're so close to launch. Keep waiting.... Still feels like a long way away

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why not? It's not that it slows down anything and on the other hand, people have the chance to meet the makers and they get response from actual potential users and not just some tech reporters/bloggers.

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I still have hope. So far, Chen was very open on the barriers and slowdowns he may have encountered along the process, and last time F(x)tec or him talked about the release, they said they were still on track for a July release if I remember correctly. There may be some delays, but I guess if we were far off, they would have kept being open about it. Fingers crossed. Anyway, it won't replace my daily device until the Sailfish Community port is actually useable and dual-bootable, which will be very frustrating considering how excited I am about the hardware part.

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Sweet, even more updates, Is this gaining speed? This is getting exciting.

https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/1144341358028763143

Added bonus, Pinephone running pretty good with Maemo-leste. Which shows how far they have come, and hopefully how well it can run on pro1. https://youtu.be/JRjhuAC6jo4
x

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Hm, why? Is it for surround sound (back channels) or what?

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But... You are so Young and here where i live it is still june, not july...

So You wan't everything little earlier, Now... First 17 seconds of this...:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDcoX7s6rE

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Nope, but still quite useless in a phone.
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-...lained-713587/
So there's DAC processes multiplied, which results as a fancy marketing name of Quad DAC. I don't know, if this technology have been used in high end audio systems, but at least in phones it is useless for two reasons:
1. Speakers embedded to phones are bad. If you listen your music through them, you cant't hear the difference whether there's simple DAC or "Quad".
2. In theory, you could hear the difference using high quality headphones. Assuming those would be wired headphones, you should also have a very good headphone amplifier, which is quite difficult to embed to a smartphone, too.

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Apples and Oranges i'm afraid, the pinephone has great mainline support which makes it perfect for projects such as Maemo-Leste.

Not so with the FX Pro1, as im sure the Maemo-Leste guys will be reluctant to use Hybris like we are with Sailfish

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Well that depends. Fx team mentioned many time they will explore how to make the device work with mainline. So not so far fetched, but of course no guaranteed either.

So I'm siding on the optimist side and hope the maemo-leste folks and fx team can find some solution working together. But yeah the pine phone is more like Librem 5 in goals I guess.

Cheers

x

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Yes it can detect the quality of headphones you plug in and use one ore more of the DACs depending...
But even with a cheap set of IEMs, I can tell a difference. Maybe placebo effect, but idk... I'm just a casual listener
Some people do buy these phones for that capability alone. I would rather have it than not

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Short announcement while it is fresh.
There will be an F(x)tec presentation on tuesday 23rd of July in Meerbusch near Düsseldorf, co/venue hosted by yours truly. ;)
Date is fixed and ready to get saved.
More when chen/fx announce officially.
Might be quite good to reach for belgian, dutch and most german folks.

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Oh **** and i'm going for my driver's license next week, let's hope i'll pass!

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So close and yet so far away. Going to Düsseldorf from Munich costs at least 50€ via public transport and many hours. A bit to much for me. Still I am curious about the reviews of people in the forum!

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So far and yet so far and expensive and time-consuming for a 1-stop trip that would instead buy TWO F(x)tec Pros!

Also looking forward to any reviews lucky attendees wish to post. Videos, perhaps even?

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An update from a few minutes ago (by mail):

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I would call early September a month late rather than a "few" weeks but that's just me.

Also not sure about the specifics of the beta test, how would that work, would you pay early, would you have to return it and get a final device later, do you just get the beta device.

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"please email info@fxtec.com by Friday 5th July with 'Beta Test' in the subject for an application form." <- if "they" choose You, maybe also get more information about testing and final information of life and more?

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Gave myself up for the beta teser program, let's hope i'm selected!

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I need to check how to reliably stream from the raspi that surveils my shop to a broadcaster kind of thingy.
Currently it only streams to one client when that one connects, also the Ir-Camera might let us look sick-greenish, will order the regular one :D
But yes, Video is definitely planned.
Maybe i will just let it roll, pointed at a fixed location and anyone who wants to comment into the camera can do anytime while chen is not doing his planned presentation.
Maybe we will even have a famous vodcast capacity attending and helping out, lets see ;)

All the best wishes! Just keep calm and do not overtake on the right like a certain guy i see in the mirror every morning did in his first try :o

Yeah, sorry.
Incentive to get the Stream up noted.

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Yepp, some of us are literally so desperate to again put good faith upfront and see what will happen.
Thanks for pointing it out, might save others from disappointment.

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Changing the shipping date is ok, but they say on the website that they will take payment 2-3 weeks before shipping when the device is ready. So IDK why they need payment at the end of July if shipments will start in September. That's at least a solid 4 weeks out. Wouldn't stop me from paying but something is a little off here...
I also wish they gave us more details about delays. The release date got pushed back, we already know that. Tell us what happened... I guess I can take solace in the fact that we have a release "month" set but even those types of promises are arbitrary. They could easily have another delay and push back again.

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They do ask for payment before shipment can be made, which is not so unusual. However, they do not collect payment while the release date is unknown. What they say is they expect to request payments after the release date is confirmed:

The duration between both expected periods might be long and can be discussed, but the plan is not to get the money before a release date is announced.

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figures... i'll be in spain that week... there goes the 'without too much hassle'.


i just cant throw 650€ at something i dont even know i'll be able to type on... why did it have to be phablet sized ffs.

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I guess ordering using Paypal (provided they allow this payment method) would be useful if you are concerned, that way you can still open a dispute if it turns out the device is never delivered (or shipped).

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The other side is that PayPal may block the funds just because, and the company may find itself in difficult financial situation.

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True, this happened quite a few times in the past with some crowdfunding projects, like, say, Neo900. I still hope they will offer this payment method as one of the options, it would help if some buyers are concerned about getting their device delivered. But yeah, if everyone place their purchase using Paypal, that might be a significant issue.

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Hopefully Chen will chime in and enlighten us !

https://osegredo.com.br/wp-content/u...ro-830x450.jpg

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If i have read "all the known smoke-signs" right, Chen is now spending of his time in well earned little vacation and will come back later to tell us what is coming after that... Ugh.

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Guys, don't worry...
If people don't want to pre order, that's fine. Just don't let other users down with you just because you don't want it.

You need to understand that no one is actually pre ordering it, but pre reserving it. As far as I know, it will have a EU warranty on it, so I don't know what the fuss is all about... why people are still wining about it...

Just wait and let them give a proper release date, than they can take my money before shipping.

I'll be sure to tease others who did not buy the device over here... ;)
By the way, Applied on the beta as a well!
Good luck everyone!

That's all for now.

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I hope that you realize it's not just anyone we're here talking about...
show some respect, or just don't say anything at all...

Edit:
I hope that you also realize that a lot other companies like even Nokia HMD takes payment weeks before shipping. They said that as early as February. Also I checked that when they will announce payment details they will fully comply with EU regulations including full return / refund and warranty. It's not crowdfunding.

Even there is a supply chain to manage, they need to make sure continuous shipment and which needs preparation months ahead. I assume that they can only do small amount upfront but for future shipment they need to prepare ahead...

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every 2nd startup never actually showed more than a few concept renders. That's not the case here. Obviously.
So, do you really think that someone would bother to make an actual working slider phone, then change the screen with very good explanation why just to take some money in a few weeks window while tho whole thing is going on for more than a year?
Once again, they don't demand any money. Yet. And if someone is VERY suspicious then it simply does not have to pay when they will ask for it. :rolleyes:
But considering that pro 1 will most likely be available only via their web page, one will always have to pay in advance. 3 days or three weeks, but still in advance. :D

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Good thing the EU actually has the 14-day window to check a product, if I don't like the phone I could always send it back and stick with my N900 for another 10 years or so.

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Come to one of the community meetings. See the prototypes, see the excitement of people that worked on the project. I doubt that you can fake it to this level.

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Appreciated.

But do you think 'tablet scam'/Neo900/... was fake?

Disclaimer: not chiming in into the discussion. And definitely not taking part on any (negative) side.

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No.

There's always some risk, and everyone is different from risk/reward stand point.

I wouldn't suggest to put an preorder(or buying a smartphone or other toy) if it's going to hurt your budget.

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Look for Gizmondo handheld console.

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Even though it was the Swedish mob who did the Gizmondo, they still delivered it. And I have it. So, what is your point other than trolling...??

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Thank You Mosen. I really hope this is possible.

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I like to think that Trzyzet was trying to subtly explain to the cynics and naysayers why it is that any company would be (and should be) very guarded about what information it releases and when, regardless of how open they want to be.

Of course, even if I'm correct, it will have sailed straight over the heads of the target audience, because of that same cynicism :)