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RWFarley 2010-06-15 02:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I have three n00bie questions.:


How do I change the (Maemo) "OpenOffice" icon to open Calc instead of Write?
..Can I make an icon to open a specific worksheet in Calc?


Gnumeric. I presume I install via "Synaptic Pkg Mg"?
.."Gnumeric" only or do I need to install "Gnumeric-common" and Gnumeric-addons" as well? In any order?


Will anything that shows up in "Synaptic Pkg Mg" work, although slowly and with poor I/O?


Thanks for this GREAT package!

qole 2010-06-15 04:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
RWFarley:

You can copy the /usr/share/applications/hildon/ooo.desktop file to a new file and change the Exec line to "Exec=debbie oocalc" to get Calc to open.

If you install the basic Gnumeric package, it will install gnumeric-common automatically, and you'll probably get what you need, but you may want to install the gumeric-plugins-extra if it has something extra you need.

As for installing other apps, most apps will work. Games and multimedia apps are the least likely to work.

rebhana 2010-06-15 09:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RWFarley (Post 715537)
Can I make an icon to open a specific worksheet in Calc?

If you always want to start OO with the same file, you could include it as a parameter after "debbie ooffice", with full path.

If you don't abhor the command line, the most efficient way IMO is to define a shortcut
Code:

oo() { /usr/bin/debbie-sue ooffice `readlink -f $1` ; }
After adding this line to your /home/user/.profile, you can open any file that OO can handle by typing "oo filename" in Maemo's XTerminal (that is, the next time you launch it). If you are curious, the readlink hack in the above is needed because the chroot generally changes your working directory, and "readlink -f" returns the full path name.

Similarly, for gnumeric add e.g.
Code:

gn() { /usr/bin/debbie-sue gnumeric `readlink -f $1` ; }
Consult the wiki for more extensive info!

d-iivil 2010-06-15 10:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Okay.. I tried to install this and my battery went flat in the middle of extracting the downloaded image. Now I cannot re-download the image since it ways I already have it downloaded but it cannot extract it due "unkown error". When I'm trying to delete the "debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma" file from MyDocs it gives me "Read-only file system" -error even if I'm running the rm-command with root priveledges.

Any ideas how I can remove the file from MyDocs and then re-download the package?

Edit: Got it working now. Rebooted the phone and connected it in USB-mode to PC and then I could delete the file in Windows file manager.

d-iivil 2010-06-15 11:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
How long should the image decompressing take? It's now been on "extracting" -stage almost an hour.

rebhana 2010-06-15 12:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 716027)
How long should the image decompressing take? It's now been on "extracting" -stage almost an hour.

Some have reported times of close to an hour. Has it finished yet?

pingu 2010-06-15 20:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
D-Iivil: happend to me too a weak ago. I managed to solve it by openning maemo terminal and typing "umount /media/mmc1"
and after it rebooting ("sudo reboot")
just don't blame me if your n900 is on fire ;)

kingoddball 2010-06-15 22:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
QOLE: How do you right click? Please?
I have been trying to customise my desktop (keeps reverting to standard on upgrade) but I can't right click. Seem's like the function has been changed.

qole 2010-06-15 23:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
kingoddball: tap-and-hold still works for me...

kingoddball 2010-06-16 00:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Thanks for your response. I don't think there is anything wrong with my Easy Debian. I still don't have tap and hold. Just tried it. Using stylus, finger and pen.
It's only happened since either the last or second last update.

d-iivil 2010-06-16 09:24

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 716063)
Some have reported times of close to an hour. Has it finished yet?

At the end it took 1h 12mins to finish extracting. My N900 is running @950MHz. Wondering what took so long... :D

qole 2010-06-16 17:05

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
D-livil:

You've experienced Bug 9353. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with CPU speed. And since you're running a custom kernel (Titan's I presume) and you still have the bug, it is caused by something that nobody has discovered yet, sadly.

rebhana 2010-06-16 19:49

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 717835)
You've experienced Bug 9353. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with CPU speed. And since you're running a custom kernel (Titan's I presume) and you still have the bug, it is caused by something that nobody has discovered yet, sadly.

For me the trick to extract within MyDocs/core-dumps (to prevent trackerd from kicking in) actually worked (plus refraining from any activities that could start swapping), ending up with 7-8 minutes of extraction time. Don't you think the installer should use core-dumps to at least prevent trackerd from interfering?

qole 2010-06-16 21:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
The core-dumps trick didn't work for me... which is why I didn't implement it.

xdanx 2010-06-17 00:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
did anyone get enigmail working? i installed the version from sid, but it doesn't show up in icedove. Even after upgrading icedove to the version in squeeze/sid (identical at the moment), still no enigmail showing up within icedove.

bug #562714 says it is fixed. Maybe not for armel? Can anyone reproduce this?

sswam 2010-06-17 15:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
hey I guess the squeeze gconf2 upgrade problem would be due to two different gconf accessing the same files under /home/user but using incompatible formats or something? I guess a simple solution might be to use a different home directory. Has anyone tried that? I'll give it a go.

It would be really great to make Maemo itself a bit more Debian compatible, how hard would that be?

Palmin 2010-06-17 19:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I'm new to this. Actually most of things that have to do with this amazing N900. I've installed Easy Debian with OpenOffice and the other apps. Wery wery nice packed up and explaned so even I understand it. But..gnome alsamixer comes up with following error: Bad Key or Directory name:"/apps/gnome-alsamixer/display_mixers/":Key/Directory may not end with a slash'/' And Bad Key or Directory name:"/apps/gnome-alsamixer/display_names/":Key/Directory may not end with a slash'/' These to, names and mixers comes up all the time. please, any tips of what I could do?

rebhana 2010-06-18 17:44

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I also get these errors with gnome-alsamixer. I never actually used it. qole?

Palmin 2010-06-19 09:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Seems to be somthing with the "sound-card" configuration towards easy debian. Media Player does not work ither. And the PulsSound device chouser does not fireup. I looked and looked on the instructions page, but I dont see anything on it. Just wonder if there is somthing I could do to fix it, and if it is only on my N900 or if it iis a development isue with the aplication pack.

qole 2010-06-19 15:57

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
We figured out how to get pulseaudio working in a rudimentary way (don't upgrade it!) but nobody ever told me how to get alsa working...

rebhana 2010-06-21 21:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 701532)
Just noticed that OpenOffice 3.2.0 for the armel architecture is finally in Debian squeeze, the same version that we already tested when it appeared in Sid. By now 3.2.1 was officially released, and Debian has some first packages in Experimental, but, ominously, not for armel.

OpenOffice 3.2.1 now also has an armel package in Sid, Debian version 1:3.2.1-3, and out of curiosity I tested it in Easy Debian. Apart from a new splashscreen everything looks pretty much the same as far as I can tell. Seems to be just a little bit slower in starting up than 3.2.0 in Squeeze, but otherwise everything I'm using in OO does work.

Two issues that I've encountered: firstly, I could install it from Sid only after commenting out Lenny and Squeeze from /etc/apt/sources.list, which I don't quite understand. Without doing that, only the squeeze version would show.

Second, I got the following errors from the openoffice.org-emailmerge component:
Code:

ERROR: There is no such extension deployed: org.openoffice.legacy.mailmerge.py
Exception details:
(com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException) { { Message = "There is no such extension deployed: org.openoffice.legacy.mailmerge.py", Context = (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @6a110 }, ArgumentPosition = (short) -1 }

unopkg failed.

and then during configuration
Code:

Copying: mailmerge.py
Enabling: mailmerge.py

ERROR: python object raised an unknown exception ('No module named uno', traceback follows
<NULL>
Exception details:
(com.sun.star.uno.RuntimeException) { { Message = "python object raised an unknown exception ('No module named uno', traceback follows\X000a<NULL>", Context = (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @0 } }

unopkg failed.

I don't remember whether something similar did happen in the upgrade to 3.2.0.

qole 2010-06-23 17:05

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Just want to remind you all that I can't really promote the current extras-devel version of Easy Debian to testing until we figure out why LXDE seems more unstable now.

Please continue to beta test, and if you can, experiment with the /usr/bin/debwm and /usr/bin/debian-lxde scripts to see if you can stop the weirdness...

rebhana 2010-06-24 20:59

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 726569)
Just want to remind you all that I can't really promote the current extras-devel version of Easy Debian to testing until we figure out why LXDE seems more unstable now.

Please continue to beta test, and if you can, experiment with the /usr/bin/debwm and /usr/bin/debian-lxde scripts to see if you can stop the weirdness...

As far as I'm concerned, it's just a slight and only occasional indeterminism with regard to the fonts that get used in LXDE, with both equally functional. So I wouldn't even call this an instability, although it is somewhat disturbing as a matter of principle since programs should behave deterministically.

nicorumiz 2010-06-24 21:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I need few suggestion on how to set up a VPN connection on my N900.

I am really concerned about losing the phone and if that happen someone will have all the settings and password.
In order to avoid this I was thinking about installing a VPN software inside EasyDebian, protect easy debian with a password and protect chroot with a password.

By doing this I should be able to have all my settings inside the Debian image (which will be protected with a password) and I should be able to run the VPN application directly from chroot(with password) or from Debian.

I know, probably only a power user will be able to recover a password from the system file but I feel like a password prompt in order to open a program sometime can discourage people to play or hack a device.

Please feel free to comment and let me know what do you think.

Regards

Nico

qole 2010-06-24 21:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
That's an interesting idea, but I don't know how to do it at this point... Does anyone know of a way to set up an encrypted image that would be read/write and not significantly slower?

nicorumiz 2010-06-24 22:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
The easy Debian image is not somehow encrypted or can be easily open(can you run the image) from a computer?

karatestarfish 2010-06-25 06:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I've got no experience with the speed, but I think there's a Truecypt port to the N900 already, right?

xdanx 2010-06-25 09:16

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
well, here's what I did: I installed EncFS, just as described in the wiki entry for Easy Debian, then I added a user, and with that new user I encrypted his home directoy with EncFS. (it will say there are already files, so you have to force it). So now all configuration files with stored passwords are within the EncFS (when mounted) of that dedicated user.

btw: anyone tried enigmail yet?

rebhana 2010-06-25 13:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 728176)
Does anyone know of a way to set up an encrypted image that would be read/write and not significantly slower?

A while ago I described here how to set up encfs in Easy Debian and also put a summary into the wiki. Works like a charm for me!

sdpkom 2010-06-27 13:27

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Please help.

I am trying to use icedove as my mail client (just cant rely on Modest).

I use gnubiff to constantly monitor my inboxes and provide imap idle support (avoid the animation it takes 15% CPU, just using icedove makes my machine really slow).

I use icedove to read and write emails.

I got IMAP-idle and the battery life is better then it used to be with Modest.

Open problems
1. Get aplay to work - so I can make gnubiff beep when I get an email.

I can get the music player to play (after running the XMMS2d), but I can't get aplay to play a simple wav.
(can't open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libsound_module_pcm_alsa_dsp.so
play soxio cannot open output file default!
cannot open audio device.

2. Get the LED to flash when there is an email waiting (this is less important for me, as I always have some emails waiting).

3. Get gnubiff to launch icedove when double tapped on.

4. Get icedove to launch faster (I know, this is a lost cause).

I will gladly settle for #1;).

Thanks

ArchiMark 2010-06-27 15:45

Install Error - Decompression Failed - Unknown lzma Error
 
Hope someone can please advise....

I reflashed PR1.2 on my N900 the other day after having AppMgr go wonky and other issues. Seems to be working OK now....

So, of course, wanted to reinstall EasyDebian..... :)

Clicked on Deb Img Install icon and got it downloading image file...

Got the following error message regarding decompressing the file:

Code:

Error! Decompression failed!
Unable to install Debian 5/6 image with working audio (main server).
Unknown lzma error.

Now, the weird thing is that if I click on Debian LXDE icon, it opens up Debian and at first glance, it looks like it's OK....LX and Rox Termial apps work, but for example, if I open up 'Wlcd Network Manager' I get error message:

Code:

Could not connect to wlcd's D-Bus Interface. Check the wlcd log for error messages.
So, want to make sure I have a good working install to use...

Thanks,

Mark

Update

After reading some other posts, decided to try deleting image file and redownloading/installing and see if that works....image file is downloading now....so, will know in a while if it installs this time without error message...will update again later...

Update 2

Reinstall of debian went OK this time...no error message...

However, when I opened Debian LXDE from icon, debian opens up OK, but now I get this error message:

Code:

Error: Unable to establish connection with FAM.

Do you have "FAM" or "Garmin" installed and running?

FYI, I don't have sim card in N900, I just use N900 with my wifi connection....

Just googled 'FAM' and it's 'File Alteration Monitor' daemon. Does that need to be running? If so, what to do about this?

Also, why is message mentioning 'Garmin' isn't that GPS related?

Any suggestions???

Thanks!

qole 2010-06-28 03:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
sdpkom: it looks like the dbus commands in /home/user/img-install/msginstall work to buzz the vibrator and flash the LED, even in Easy Debian. You're right, aplay doesn't work, do you know the pulseaudio equivalent?

qole 2010-06-28 03:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
OK, in Maemo, as root,

apt-get install pulseaudio-utils

then

cp /usr/bin/paplay /.debian/usr/bin/

then you can use paplay to play audio files.

nicorumiz 2010-06-28 20:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
@qole & Rebhana:

Do you know any VPN program installable inside easydebian?

I will try to set up the encrypted user-space as soon as I can when I will be back home.

Thanks a lot!

Nico

xdanx 2010-06-28 21:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
vpnc for example is working fine

rm42 2010-07-04 03:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
This article has some nice suggestions for speeding up OOo:

http://www.fewt.com/2010/06/speed-up-open-office.html

I tried it with my Easy Debian installation and it seems to work rather well.

avidscavenger 2010-07-05 03:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I'm loving using OpenOffice on my N900 as well as having all my favourite Debian tools available. I am having one pretty serious problem which is that OpenOffice sometimes crashes (actually reasonably predictably, certain files seem to do it) and in doing so brings down the whole N900.

Seems to me that an OpenOffice bug should at worst make OpenOffice close but not crash the whole device. I don't really have any idea where to start with debugging, but happy to follow instructions, or provide a file that produces the problem.

mscion 2010-07-05 03:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 740003)
This article has some nice suggestions for speeding up OOo:

http://www.fewt.com/2010/06/speed-up-open-office.html

I tried it with my Easy Debian installation and it seems to work rather well.

Super improvement! Took less that 5 seconds to open OO.o writer.
The N900 was actually outperforming my Dell Precision... until I made the same changes on it!

Thanks for the suggestion.

rebhana 2010-07-05 14:55

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by avidscavenger (Post 740818)
I'm loving using OpenOffice on my N900 as well as having all my favourite Debian tools available. I am having one pretty serious problem which is that OpenOffice sometimes crashes (actually reasonably predictably, certain files seem to do it) and in doing so brings down the whole N900.

Seems to me that an OpenOffice bug should at worst make OpenOffice close but not crash the whole device. I don't really have any idea where to start with debugging, but happy to follow instructions, or provide a file that produces the problem.

Which version of OO are you using? You now have the choice between 3.1 from qole's image, 3.2.0 from squeeze and 3.2.1 from sid. So you could try upgrading if you haven't done so yet (see the wiki for instructions).

And yes, please provide a file that produces a crash.

EDIT: Just saw that both squeeze and sid now have OO 3.2.1 (in different versions though).

rebhana 2010-07-05 21:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 740821)
Super improvement! Took less that 5 seconds to open OO.o writer.

Yes, but only under LXDE and when it was launched previously. When started through debbie, I hardly see any improvements, do you?


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