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iPhoto does not support Jolla, it does open and shows some camera but shows 0 pictures to import.

I'm using a Mac and I haven't found a way to transfer files between Jolla and OS X. I can't be arsed to take the SD card out every single time. SFTP probably requires developer mode?

Edit: seems like I can use Bluetooth to send files... Sending one file at a time at a whopping 50 kb/s speed, yay...

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There isn't "built-in" options, except bluetooth sync for some data. You can select Email, Calendar and Microsoft Exchange apps for installation from the welcome wizard if you want syncing. Email supports IMAP/SMTP. If you want other syncing you need to install Microsoft Exchange app.

Hopefully Jolla will release support for CalDav and CardDav in the future.

There is rsync 3.1.0+git1 on the command line.

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You can configure that behaviour off in iPhoto->Preferences->General...

Connecting camera opens [none]

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My list of Mac/Jolla annoyances grows +1.

Hopefully that's something Jolla can fix as I've not had issues with most cameras that implement transfer via MTP.

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I found that iPhoto on Mac works for camera photos (those in subdirectory Camera), but not for images in Pictures.
Still it's mostly useless as that's only for photos.

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I suppose they'll leave it for Apple to fix...

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beside the fact that it's slower than USB?
the fact that non or lamost non of audio players support them. I'm using sftp very much for some backup or photos or something like that. But transfering few GB of music song by song or album by album from my filemanager is just something I don't want to do.

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Do you have the latest version of iPhoto? Because mine isn't the latest and I can't get it to recognize any pictures taken with Jolla.

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And one from my side: the cause of this has been identified and fixed (we hope!) - now pending release in a future update.

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I agree with the fact that USB mass -storage is usually more useful. However the mounting point is not moot as you state, neither is adding a FAT translation layer trivial. If it al was as simple as you state it would already be done.

Anyway there are a few different things in the pipeline to improve on this problem. You ask, we try to please:

https://github.com/nemomobile/usb-mo...635055679b742b

Just don't expect this to work for you perfectly yet. This needs more time for polishing and bugfixing. The whole fs mount handling needs to be reviewed in detail as tests show there are still some issues there.


And atm MTP does work on most current OSes with the notable exception of the "ever broken when it comes to widely accepted standards" OS X. So the plugging in USB to exchange files use case works.

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I think all online people should be visible on top in the People app all the time! Now in both the People and message app show old messages on the first page :/ why? So People app should show only online friends on top and contacts under the letters / search. PLEASE, clean that up. I use lots of time to find all my online friends at the first time. That Globe icon is useless and not so handy. Friend should not be hidden :)

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I will try another formulation - from what I've read "to use XPrivacy with the XPosed Framework you'd normally have to root the phone first".
How does this work on Sailfish with AlienDalvik as it's Android simulation?
Answers from theory/knowledge/try outs are very welcome.
Thanks

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I would say you don't need to care about rooting as you have root on your Jolla.

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On N900, this was handled by automatically unmounting the SD card when the back cover is removed.
Not a bad idea for N900, but with the Other Half concept not really feasible since you are supposed to switch other halfs on the fly according to your mood/needs/whatsoever and shouldn't be cut off from access to your SD card during that process...

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Actually, this isn't a bad idea... even for the other half... mount/unmount. I like it.

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I'd appreciate this functionality also. The globe button appears to be gray and not functional on my phone. For some reason facebook icon in precence details is always gray, whereas gtalk stays green. I'm in home wlan and facebook is logged in. Anyone else having same problem?

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Oh, do not get me wrong - I didn't say it was trivial, I was more ranting on why hasn't been done yet (fully aware that if it was bothering me so much I should've done something about it, mind you), and not in Nemo but in the general Linux pipeline, specifically ext4. I ranted back when it was just an idea that journaling system on ext4 is purely a grift and that all the effort spent on the ext4 was wasted as it didn't really bring any major improvement. Oh, well...

Now I'm just advocating a bit of a mind-shift as our devices are becoming increasingly portable, including volatile and non-volatile storage, and with the current look on things we have to sacrifice either convenience or speed to use them. The problem of multiprocess memory access has been solved a long time ago, it just needs a good implementation within the FS and the storage media. Not trivial, but certainly doable.

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True, tho at least cache flush could be performed when the cover is taken off, and write cache could be kept off until the OH is placed back - certainly wouldn't solve all problems but should dramatically decrease memory corruption for users who are not careful and thoughtful enough to unmount the card before removing it.

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That's something I didn't like with the N9 - you could sort alphabetically or by status, but if you did the latter, you could no longer scroll the letters on the right quick-scroll pane as Meego wouldn't know whether you'd like to jump through the online or offline letters (does Sailfish even have that scollpane?) I usually have many more offline than online contacts, so it's a PITA to scoll through them when sorting by status.

Not sure how to solve that, except some heuristics which figure out if one status is > 70% than the other and then have "Online / Away / A / B / C / D..:" or so as quick scroll-pane. Or maybe just do it always like that assuming people have more online than offline contacts and be done with it.

Sorry for the rambling...

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Maybe no-brainer for some, but tried anyway with 50/50 exceptation:
Plug USB-cable to netbook running Ubuntu 13.04: not possible to use Jolla's 3G-network.

On N9 plugging the USB-cable to the same PC network "just works" without further settings.

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I got a Toshiba 64gb sd card for my 808 after my SanDisk card crapped out after a few weeks.... The Toshiba was a good choice

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Happy to hear, more puzzled why it didn't go off at all today

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I read here

https://plus.google.com/116901758143...ts/3pPG3D4z4Vt

that Sailfish is using kcalcore and calligra... I kind of expected a calligra based document viewer, given its history in Maemo and Harmattan... but it is nice if this means calendars can be shared easily with KDEPim.

This would be a nice way to collaborate with other existing open free software.
I wonder why this work has not received more publicty.

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For the time being I am getting around the mac connectivity question by using the android dropbox app. That does find the photos and uploads them with no issues

Must say I find some of the logic on sailbox rather confusing, and in particular apps install fine when using the android dropbox client, in sailbox you seem to have to download them, after which I can't find them. The whole idea of a transfer box seems unnecessarily difficult to me

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Thanks for your reply!
XPrivacy and XPosed Framework would be installed for/on android for a full android app control.

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Have you gone to the notifications screen and used the pulley menu to select show "presence details"

You can then click on the facebook and gtalk icons and chose the status from Available, Away, Busy, Hidden and Offline. There are also the three quicklinks at the top which should set all the message apps.

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Yes, on Mavericks.

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Yes I tried that, resetting them all to offline and back to available will only bring the two gtalk accounts online, but not facebook. Doing the same individually to facebook works neither.

Edit. The facebook account has signed off when watching from the account settings. It has done so a few times now, entering username and password gets me online again. But this problem has occurred two times nowhoping for a fix at some point :o

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I have no idea which N9 you have, but mine does not support anything like that. I always have to use the wifi hotspot.

Otoh it is already clarified in this thread how to set up such a connection. Moreover it is a feature that will come with an update in the future.

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I want it now :(

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This might be the most comfortable phone I've used in landscape, which is kind of ironic. Let's hope there will be native landscape support for the browser, maps and all text input situations.

Except for the lack of landscape, YouTube experience is best with native browser. It has good audio/video sync and continues to play in background. Ok, maybe some playback controls would be nice too. Is this html5, xhtml or something like that. I remember Jolla supports html5 too, does it mean in the browser or can they run as separate apps?

I had a problem. Not one Android store or app could use mobile data, they wanted WLAN. Well they loaded web pages via mobile data, but that's not good enough. So I reset the phone and once again installed the Laadunjärvi update, but this time before anything else. Now mobile data works, it's a Christmas miracle!

Today, I've also learned Jolla can't find Nokia E71 JoikuSpot WLAN but it can find 25 encrypted networks from the neighbourhood. And that you should always try to reset your Jolla before buying a Netgear WLAN router that is impossible to configure.

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Have you tried removing the facebook account, then removing the Jolla permission in Facebook apps and starting again with a fresh set up of Facebook on Jolla?

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check this:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...86#post1391586

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Does anyone know what size picture to make it show the whole picture when using as ambiance?

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From the specs page: Ample 4.5" IPS qHD (960x540) display, so 960x540 pixels would be optimal.

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That's odd since I've got no problems whatsoever setting IMAP/SSL & SMTP/SSL access to my mailserver.
Does your provider use some nonstandard extensions (if SMTP even has anything like that...?)

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I read on IRC that email address != user name, which may be a problem. My personal SMTP uses different values there, and Jolla's UI doesn't allow you to enter different values.

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Well, I know the screen resolution but if I want the ambiance to show the whole picture, 960x540 isnt optimal for that because there is vertical movement and the background moves too. With 960x540 it cuts X amount of pixels from left and right sides of the pic. Thats why I was asking if someone knew the right size, before I start messing around with pictures :P

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Good point, I mispoke then. Perhaps download one of the out of the box pictures and copy? :-)

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Hypothesis:

The virtual layer by Alien Dalvik controls access to the Jolla hardware demanded by random Android applications .

I am worried that this Alien Dalvik layer acts like an Android OS that automatically says "yes, allow" on every request for data access from an Android application.

For "user convenience" AlienDalvik is trusted by Sailfish to access contact details, phone status, GPS, file system, enable network connection etc...hence the Android programs running on top of it are also trusted by default.

The question is, if XPrivacy running on Alien Dalvik would be aware of the other Android programs running on Alien Dalvik? They might as well be running in a separate "box".

I hope somebody can throw in a technical explanation to prove the contrary and show us that Sailfish is not a data grabbing playground for Android applications on the loose.

Thanks