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Dave999 2017-08-10 18:21

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1532417)
I didn't know you were a necromancer as well :eek:

By the way, stop beating your undead horse ;)

https://youtu.be/O3rpmctmC_M

Time to move on?

taixzo 2017-08-10 18:30

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by DrYak (Post 1532415)
So,you're advocating to put a *radioactive* paint (hydrogene 3 isotope), right next to a *high capacity lithium battery* (basically made of elemental explosivium :-D), and near a ton of non-space grade/non-military/non Rad-hardened modern extremely dense circuitry (you know the kind that is the reason why airports use a different X-Ray machine for hand luggage, just so it doesn't fry yoir electronics or photofilm) ?
on a much larger surface (thus quantity) than the typically mecanical thick whatches that use it ?

don't know if you aim to have crashiest phone ever that constantly has bad blocks on its flahs,
or if you are jalouse of Samsung owner and want to be thrown out of planes,
or simply trolling ?

It's not quite as ridiculous as you make it sound - tritium does decay via beta radiation, but the beta particles are unusually low energy (compared to other alpha emitters) and can't penetrate things like plastic keys, circuit boards or lithium batteries. As such, it is safe for use around electronics, which is the reason that it's often used for self-powered lighting (in place of other radioactive elements used previously, such as radium).

Thoke 2017-08-10 18:31

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Time to move on?
Agreed. let's just stop here before this goes even further off-topic...

Zeta 2017-08-10 22:08

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
so, to get back on topic:

What about physical camera shutter button ?
And shoulder buttons (like on game controllers, but user-mappable to ALT, CTRL, smiley keyboard popup, ...) ?

aironeous 2017-08-11 01:59

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by DrYak (Post 1532415)
So,you're advocating to put a *radioactive* paint (hydrogene 3 isotope), right next to a *high capacity lithium battery* (basically made of elemental explosivium :-D), and near a ton of non-space grade/non-military/non Rad-hardened modern extremely dense circuitry (you know the kind that is the reason why airports use a different X-Ray machine for hand luggage, just so it doesn't fry yoir electronics or photofilm) ?
on a much larger surface (thus quantity) than the typically mecanical thick whatches that use it ?

don't know if you aim to have crashiest phone ever that constantly has bad blocks on its flahs,
or if you are jalouse of Samsung owner and want to be thrown out of planes,
or simply trolling ?

Well then I guess you better go tell these guys how stupid they are
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk
because they say it is easily shielded.

Or the guys that won a NASA award for making a glowing powder that you can add to any paint to make it a light source, the shielding, a micropolymer. Used to be glowpaint.com and then MPKco.com but it seems they went out of business but that doesn't mean the tech wasn't valid.
Now this from Cornell University is very interesting and open to licensing and was sponsored by DARPA. If this is true whoever runs with this could make the first betavoltaic cell inside of a tablet that trickle charges the battery.
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk/cornell...taic-cell.html

And oh look...
http://www.citylabs.net
and they overcame the regulations.
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk/citylab...umbattery.html

kinggo 2017-08-11 10:54

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
Bunch of quite bizarre demands here........
Anyway, I have just one. Less glue and more screws.

Dave999 2017-08-11 10:56

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1532450)
Bunch of quite bizarre demands here........
Anyway, I have just one. Less glue and more screws.

Indeed. People are indeed crazy ;)

British 2017-08-11 11:15

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 1532441)
Will then I guess you better go tell these guys how stupid they are
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk
because they say it is easily shielded.

Or the guys that won a NASA award for making a glowing powder that you can add to any paint to make it a light source, the shielding, a micropolymer. Used to be glowpaint.com and then MPKco.com but it seems they went out of business but that doesn't mean the tech wasn't valid.
Now this from Cornell University is very interesting and open to licensing and was sponsored by DARPA. If this is true whoever runs with this could make the first betavoltaic cell inside of a tablet that trickle charges the battery.
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk/cornell...taic-cell.html

And oh look...
http://www.citylabs.net
and they overcame the regulations.
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk/citylab...umbattery.html

However easily shielded it can be, tritium is still banned in quite a few countries.
I doubt trying to circumvent those bans to save a bit of battery power is worth the legal hassle.

As long as the keyboard backlighting can be disabled (which should be trivial), I'm not bothered.

aironeous 2017-08-11 13:34

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
Demands? ^ Curiosity and thinking outside the box gets instantly turned into demands?
You see? There is always that guy in the audience that wants to disguise his potshots as a valid argument.

Testing, testing:

Can we be curious, is that ok?

Can I bring up possible innovations in this category while I'm waiting for the the tablet I paid him for? Maybe it entertains him a little bit and gives him a break from the work he is doing to bring our devices to us, I don't know... but what's the harm?
I owned the N900. I wanted the N950. I'm curious about this device he is working on.

I wonder if you could use this stuff
https://www.lumilor.com
to make a more interesting notification light or possibly with filters and different back lights make a dual language keyboard so that depending what back light color you choose in settings it determines what characters show on the keyboard.

Before you comment it's a stupid idea or start throwing rotten tomatoes at me, check yourself. Did you have a good breakfast? Are you getting along with your spouse, your boss, your friends? I'm not your punching bag.

Don't ask me technical questions about how to do it, it's not my area of expertise. I'm just asking a question and being curious.

Feathers McGraw 2017-08-11 14:56

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 1532459)
Before you comment it's a stupid idea or start throwing rotten tomatoes at me, check yourself. Did you have a good breakfast? Are you getting along with your spouse, your boss, your friends? I'm not your punching bag.

Sure, they are requests not demands, but I think the point was that they are bizarre!

From where I'm sitting that's a reasonable comment, not meant personally, and you have overreacted at some perceived slight and got quite defensive...

Let's all just chill :)


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