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ejasmudar 2011-02-28 03:56

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dannycamps (Post 957003)
With all due respect to the developer of SomePlayer, I did download it and try it today but found it very unintuitive and clunky.

As a developer, I appreciate the passion and commitment that goes into creating a piece of software but I would say that SomePlayer (while it may have a number of nice features) is in no way shape or form polished enough to be able to replace the default Media Player.

I would much rather see MAG's 1:1 clone of the existing media player (with some additional features thrown in).

Or the CSSU should have option for completely removing the Nokla Media player and we can install any player in its place, the contenders being Rockbox, MAG's Media player and Someplayer.
So, to each, his own.

sjgadsby 2011-02-28 04:34

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 956805)
It seems the develper of SomePlayer has been working on this new media player for the last 6 months, I assume without mentioning it to anybody on the forum including you.

I haven't tried it yet but posters on this link are saying it is what the standard media player should have been from the start..

As I understand it, SomePlayer doesn't do Internet radio, DLNA, or video, and it does not use MAFW. It isn't a drop-in replacement for Media Player.

ejasmudar 2011-02-28 04:36

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I have created a Community SSU Requests page at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Feature_Requests

jo21 2011-02-28 04:50

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
its usable enough. some player

about some player.
a bit more eye candy would help... like covewrflow or album view similar to the n8.
the app could be faster too.
it doesnt support aac and it clips when rotating or changing some. but of course its first release may improve
what the default media player needs its EQ and potrait support :/. sadly it closed-

"Improved Portrait Mode in Virtual keyboard"
can we make our own, kinda kinw fastSMS but full QWERT copy paste?

Mentalist Traceur 2011-02-28 06:48

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I wanted to point out a "bug" that is technically indeed a bug but in a feature really not intended for mass-use anyway:

If you have dbus_shortcuts_use_fn set to true (a feature included in the CSSU, as it was part of matan's original modified desktop mods - unless you're using ctrl+fn for some other fancy stuff, it is actually a very useful feature - and no it doesn't conflict with the symbols vkb because if you press ctrl+fn instead of fn+ctrl, it doesn't trigger the special symbols menu at all - order of press makes a difference), "ctrl+fn+shift+L" to auto-rotate does NOT work.

On that subject, a while back someone asked - how do I add Ctrl+Fn+Shift+L to the shortcutd menu. For this, the three ways right now are, A: modify shortcutd and compile it for yourself accordingly. B: download xdotool (I compiled the binaries/libs for it some time ago: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70076 ...if enough people want it, I will eventually make a .deb and maybe even try to get it into the repos), and then use the xdotool command in the custom shell command option of shortcutd (if anyone actually wants to know how, ask). Third method is figure out some other way to fake key presses - I know dbus must have some way of doing it - I refuse to believe it doesn't - but for all I know the xorg xtest libs that xdotool and shortcutd both use are the only way to fake key presses in X-window based systems.

Similarly, my N900 was undergoing very odd reboots/shut-downs at random intervals. Well, what I thought was random, as time went in, it started clicking that it was correlated to one very specific thing - "Shift+Fn+arrow" - I have Fn+Arrows mapped to PgUp/PgDown/Home/End, and combining that with shift is basically like holding down shift while using the latter four keys - let's you select from cursor to the end/beginning of the line, or for a PgUp/Pg/Down's worth of text.

When this clicked, I started to suspect that this Shift+Fn+Arrow spontaneous-crash had something to do with the dbus_shortcuts_use_fn setting available for the hildon-desktop packages that use these mods.

Anyway, I just recently disabled the dbus_shortcuts_use_fn setting, and will see how it goes... if the spontaneous crashes go away (they started around the time the CSSU first came out, and I know I enabled dbus_shortcuts_use_fn the day I first installed the CSSU, which was the day it came out), I'll report back here.

tokag 2011-02-28 07:40

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 956927)
dang... trying to reactivate my bugzilla account... hmmmmm

if you can't figure it out, PM me your bug report and i will file it for you w/ my account.

maxximuscool 2011-02-28 07:51

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Bug**

* Forcerotation makes the Photos apps full screen rotation rotate 180 degrees when doing 90 degrees rotate and causing the photo to display half of another photo with the current photo.

* App manager rendering useless with CSSU, always scans and scans for Updates when ever exit or click Download. Terrible!! very time consuming and stuck on "checking for updates....." none stop is annoying. Please fix this

Mandibela 2011-02-28 07:53

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
My N900 just went apes*** crazy. It had suddenly shut itself down during the night, has never happened before. It woke me up with an alarm though. I put it to charge and checked my emails. I left modest running, and went to have breakfast, during which the N900 had an alarm. It started to beep, as I got atleast 20 notifications of 'Temporary error, there is not enough memory.' Finally I got the notification, but now the device runs extremely hot and doesn't respond too well, actually doesn't respond at all.

I think I remove the battery, reboot and remove the CSSU as this is getting too wild for my tastes. I'll wait until it gets out of testing.

michaaa62 2011-02-28 08:08

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandibela (Post 957071)
My N900 just went apes*** crazy. It had suddenly shut itself down during the night, has never happened before. It woke me up with an alarm though. I put it to charge and checked my emails. I left modest running, and went to have breakfast, during which the N900 had an alarm. It started to beep, as I got atleast 20 notifications of 'Temporary error, there is not enough memory.' Finally I got the notification, but now the device runs extremely hot and doesn't respond too well, actually doesn't respond at all.

I think I remove the battery, reboot and remove the CSSU as this is getting too wild for my tastes. I'll wait until it gets out of testing.

I would suggest to start a fresh thread to tackle your issue!
Just removing the CSSU will not be enough, even i would doubt it comes from the CSSU at all.

debernardis 2011-02-28 08:26

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 957069)
* Forcerotation makes the Photos apps full screen rotation rotate 180 degrees when doing 90 degrees rotate and causing the photo to display half of another photo with the current photo.

Confirmed!

tokag 2011-02-28 08:33

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 957069)
Bug**

* Forcerotation makes the Photos apps full screen rotation rotate 180 degrees when doing 90 degrees rotate and causing the photo to display half of another photo with the current photo.

* App manager rendering useless with CSSU, always scans and scans for Updates when ever exit or click Download. Terrible!! very time consuming and stuck on "checking for updates....." none stop is annoying. Please fix this

The first has already been addressed before a few pages back. unfortunately that application is closed, however the CSSU team is working on a white-list for applications such as those which don't display correctly in portrait mode. please remember that it is "testing" don't expect everything to work 100 per cent of the time. also it is not recommended that you use forced rotation because it is not finished and situations like these do exist.

As for the HAM, i cannot confirm this "bug" on my device. please check your setting and clean your system with some or all of the following commands in x-term run under root. also, a quick reboot never hurts.

Code:

apt-get -f install
apt-get autoremove
apt-get autoclean

and btw, watch your tone. what has the CSSU team ever done to you? besides of course donating their [most likely] limited free time and extensive expertice to give you the device you have always wanted and Nokia didn't care to give you; all the while asking for nothing in return.

tomchiverton 2011-02-28 08:59

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandibela (Post 957071)
My N900 just went apes*** crazy. It had suddenly shut itself down during the night, has never happened before. It woke me up with an alarm though. I put it to charge and checked my emails. I left modest running, and went to have breakfast, during which the N900 had an alarm. It started to beep, as I got atleast 20 notifications of 'Temporary error, there is not enough memory.' Finally I got the notification, but now the device runs extremely hot and doesn't respond too well, actually doesn't respond at all.

I think I remove the battery, reboot and remove the CSSU as this is getting too wild for my tastes. I'll wait until it gets out of testing.

Your the only one to report this. What else is installed on the device ? What else have you customised ?

Mandibela 2011-02-28 09:43

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 957078)
I would suggest to start a fresh thread to tackle your issue!
Just removing the CSSU will not be enough, even i would doubt it comes from the CSSU at all.

Well, This is the first time I got something like this happening, and it's not been long since my last flash, so this is a relatively fresh system. The biggest change comes from installing CSSU, the only other significant system-affecting component would be Theme Customizer. These are discussed in this thread, so I'll complain here for the moment. I might just flash again...

Modest is updated via CSSU, so there might be a bug, as it was running - over cell data though, it doesn't check for mail automatically over that, only WiFi and when on it, only on the hour, so modest updating by itself was not the case. Maybe, could have been that it did something as I manually did update my emails in the first place.

I will try to reproduce this.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 957109)
Your the only one to report this. What else is installed on the device ? What else have you customised ?

Yes, I'm the first to report this... =)

In addition to the above, I have 3G/2G/Dual mode applet (never had issues), Bluetooth-DUN (no issues), Bless (FCam)(no issues), CSSU enabler, Conky, eSpeakCaller (this is a recent on this flashing with CSSU, but never had issues before), Shortcutd (proximityd - had some issues with the camera button, and I got a new replacement N900), Simple Brightness Applet, Swappolube (GUI), and a few programs that shouldn't interfere with the system.

I do wonder why I have n900-fmrx-enabler, depends on libqtm-multimedia (perhaps QSpot)?

I don't care for customizations too much, Theme Customizer is about the max I'd like to use, I have no need to mess with something that works...

I'm still testing this, I have to charge the battery and take a backup, but I'll know more in say.... 6 hours.

Jaffa 2011-02-28 09:49

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 956994)
Hmmm, we need a wiki page for feature requests in CSSU. The developers could then comment on whether possible (if closed source), any actions planned, etc.Anybody agree with me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 957015)
I have created a Community SSU Requests page at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Feature_Requests

I think this would be better moved to Bugzilla. Relevant searches:

New feature requests would be filed in Bugzilla with "Severity: enhancement" and dealt with there. This also allows people to vote and track the issues they're interested in.

If you used the Bugzilla plugin (see the QA page), you could automate that "feature requests" page.

rantom 2011-02-28 09:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandibela (Post 957137)
I do wonder why I have n900-fmrx-enabler, depends on libqtm-multimedia (perhaps QSpot)?

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. PR 1.3 came with n900-fmrx-enabler, it's (if I recall right) an open-source fix for the N900, regarding the FM Radio. No, not the FM Radio Player, just the FM Radio itself. I think that the same goes for libqtm-multimedia, since I have it too (and I've yet to install Qspot).

imacmillan 2011-02-28 10:16

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
can any of you guys help with this? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70253. dont think its CSSU related but its really annoying me now. Keeps happening! Thanks

droll 2011-02-28 10:27

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
2 Attachment(s)
i see graphic corruption. is it something i tweaked that is causing this?

imacmillan 2011-02-28 10:28

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 957166)
i see graphic corruption. is it something i tweaked that is causing this?

Have you overclocked? i get this from unstable overclocking. A reboot usuallt fixes it though for me...

geneven 2011-02-28 10:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 957013)
As I understand it, SomePlayer doesn't do Internet radio, DLNA, or video, and it does not use MAFW. It isn't a drop-in replacement for Media Player.

Shouldn't it be up to the user what is a drop-in replacement for what? Ideally, that is.

Jaffa 2011-02-28 11:01

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 957183)
Shouldn't it be up to the user what is a drop-in replacement for what? Ideally, that is.

Users can install SomePlayer if they want to. I'm not sure your point is relevant to the CSSU, is it? For the CSSU, an open source replacement would have to have all the same core functionality; with no significant regressions compared with the closed source original.

droll 2011-02-28 11:08

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imacmillan (Post 957167)
Have you overclocked? i get this from unstable overclocking. A reboot usuallt fixes it though for me...

no overclocking. stock kernel. hmmmm

droll 2011-02-28 11:10

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan.campini (Post 957191)
jus updated repo for cssu at point now in ham where u agree to install. under details summary it says i have to connect to pc suite. is this correct ? or can i jus install.
under problems it says "unable to update maemo 5 cssu package.
application packages missing - hildon-desktop (1;2.2.142-10).
what does this mean ??
i have not tryed agree and install yet as i wanted 2 make sure i do properley.
any help??

did you have a custom built hildon desktop package installed?

imacmillan 2011-02-28 11:12

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 957192)
no overclocking. stock kernel. hmmmm

when i get it its usually much worse than what you posted, but the same problem. not the overclock then... weird. never experienced it on stock kernel. i always assumed it to be instability as when i went to a higher default voltage profile i didnt experience it. Did it still do it after reboot? I find when i did occur that the phone would be very slow and churn away until i rebooted. Is it just the graphics you have the problem with?

Megaltariak 2011-02-28 11:23

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
The graphic corruption is a bug in hildon-desktop which make happens strange pixels on icons, this is not related at all to overclocking nor hardware issue, it was a lot more present before PR1.2 but still present.
A reboot fix it.

Jaffa 2011-02-28 11:23

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan.campini (Post 957200)
thnx 4 quick reply. yes i have mag hildon desktop with 7 desktops (from MaeModder). with 2.6.28.10power-46 wl1 kernel. ?? what should i do to have all of this installed ???

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ:

Quote:

In most cases, users with modified-hildon-desktop will have issues updating hildon-desktop. That is because modified-hildon-desktop overwrites schemes set out by the normal hildon-desktop. To alleviate this issue one needs to remove modified-hildon-desktop before retrying.

imacmillan 2011-02-28 11:24

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Megaltariak (Post 957203)
The graphic corruption is a bug in hildon-desktop which make happens strange pixels on icons, this is not related at all to overclocking nor hardware issue, it was a lot more present before PR1.2 but still present.
A reboot fix it.

learn something new everyday :)

sygys 2011-02-28 11:41

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Is it possible to modify the email client so that forwarding keeps the attachments and message like it should, instead of wrapping it in a .eml file?

When i want to forward an attachment i need to save it first and then make a new message. it has been this way since PR1.0 and dont understand why wrapping up in .eml file was nokia's choice.

Switch_ 2011-02-28 12:00

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan.campini (Post 957226)
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No need to use Maemodder after installation, the CSSU covers most of the desirables incorpoprated in Maemodder..... edit your transitions.ini file instead to activate them.

tomchiverton 2011-02-28 12:09

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandibela (Post 957137)
other significant system-affecting component would be Theme Customizer ... Swappolube

AFAIK Theme Customizer has known issues with the SSU, and Swapolube is of dubious use. Try undoing everything Swapolube did.

d-iivil 2011-02-28 12:18

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 957243)
AFAIK Theme Customizer has known issues with the SSU, and Swapolube is of dubious use. Try undoing everything Swapolube did.

TC shouldn't have any issues with the latest version. Allthough some functions ain't working (resize shortcuts, resize web bookmarks, show or hide shortcut backgrounds) if user has CSSU installed.

Instead what makes user confused is which transitions.ini file to edit. Wiki says you should only edit one located at /usr/share/hildon-desktop, but if user has transitions.ini located at theme's folder, it's gonna take over the one mentioned before.

Mandibela 2011-02-28 12:59

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 957243)
AFAIK Theme Customizer has known issues with the SSU, and Swapolube is of dubious use. Try undoing everything Swapolube did.

TC has been covered, as d-iivil says, and swappolube should not have problems if all the programs work as expected. If a memory leak or a loop occurs, theres not much else to do than take the battery out as the system overloads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 957248)
TC shouldn't have any issues with the latest version. Allthough some functions ain't working (resize shortcuts, resize web bookmarks, show or hide shortcut backgrounds) if user has CSSU installed.

Instead what makes user confused is which transitions.ini file to edit. Wiki says you should only edit one located at /usr/share/hildon-desktop, but if user has transitions.ini located at theme's folder, it's gonna take over the one mentioned before.

And he's working on it. =D

TC really has no running tasks that could suddenly crash in the background.

So far, after the boot from morning, everything seems to run well, I've had no problems. I think the crash from this morning was just a glitch somewhere.

tomchiverton 2011-02-28 13:03

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 957248)
Wiki says you should only edit one located at /usr/share/hildon-desktop, but if user has transitions.ini located at theme's folder, it's gonna take over the one mentioned before.

Actually, it says "If you use a theme that has a custom transitions.ini file, it will override the one above, so check in /opt/usr/share/themes/[name of the theme you're using]/transitions.ini, if changing the transitions.ini file in the above path doesn't work. "

I know, I wrote it :-)

Jaffa 2011-02-28 13:15

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 957248)
TC shouldn't have any issues with the latest version. Allthough some functions ain't working (resize shortcuts, resize web bookmarks, show or hide shortcut backgrounds) if user has CSSU installed.

Can you explain more about how TC copies and replaces hildon-home binaries? Does it do this on installation or only when certain features are enabled?

Hopefully such an explanation can alleviate the worry I've got that saying "TC shouldn't have any issues with the latest version" hides a lot of edge cases around ordering.

d-iivil 2011-02-28 13:30

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 957296)
Can you explain more about how TC copies and replaces hildon-home binaries? Does it do this on installation or only when certain features are enabled?

Hopefully such an explanation can alleviate the worry I've got that saying "TC shouldn't have any issues with the latest version" hides a lot of edge cases around ordering.

In the latest version it checks during installation (or upgrade) if CSSU package is installed, and if it is, then it just skips the part where it's copying the modified hildon-home binary into it's place. Same check is done every time user applies settings in the Theme Customizer.

So if user uninstalls CSSU and runs Theme Customizer => modified hildon-home is copied into it's place.
If user installs CSSU and then runs Theme Customizer => modified hildon-home is NOT copied, it's completely ignored.

evan 2011-02-28 14:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
About the phenomenon that some have to press two times the power button for the unlock screen to show and some not.
It is this way for me always when I have forcerotation=1
while it is the normal one press when I have forcerotation=0.

isfr21 2011-02-28 14:59

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
What's the "Turbo" setting for in the transitions file?

debernardis 2011-02-28 15:09

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Concerning other ideas for the CSSU, I don't know if it's possible to hack microb or it's unaccessible as closed source, but one thing I'd like very much is to have an automatic shift-ctrl-i on every page I open, i.e. the possibility to have the text automatically adjusting to page width when zooming in and out. Thanks...

Grant 2011-02-28 15:37

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d-iivil (Post 957248)
TC shouldn't have any issues with the latest version. Allthough some functions ain't working (resize shortcuts, resize web bookmarks, show or hide shortcut backgrounds) if user has CSSU installed.

@D-iivil: I've seen this mentioned a few times and am curious as to why these functions of TC continue to work for me despite having CSSU installed. Prior to installing CSSU, I had one of the modified-hildon packages installed as well as TC. Upon installing CSSU, my enlarged, backgroundless shortcuts reverted to their default states, but reapplying those modifications through TC worked for me with no problem. This happened again after the most recent CSSU update. I am currently running the humanity theme and icon set, with an enlarged shortcut size of 130, and have no shortcut backgrounds, and am utilizing some of the features enabled by CSSU and modded transitions.ini file (z-axis rotation, touchzoom).

dtergens 2011-02-28 15:37

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I have to say that one of my biggest wish is to see TC natively included in N900 settings, to still have easily and proper enjoy with it :-)
Can't live now without CSSU and also without TC xD

d-iivil 2011-02-28 15:44

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant (Post 957389)
@D-iivil: I've seen this mentioned a few times and am curious as to why these functions of TC continue to work for me despite having CSSU installed. Prior to installing CSSU, I had one of the modified-hildon packages installed as well as TC. Upon installing CSSU, my enlarged, backgroundless shortcuts reverted to their default states, but reapplying those modifications through TC worked for me with no problem. This happened again after the most recent CSSU update. I am currently running the humanity theme and icon set, with an enlarged shortcut size of 130, and have no shortcut backgrounds, and am utilizing some of the features enabled by CSSU and modded transitions.ini file (z-axis rotation, touchzoom).

If you had CSSU installed before upgrading to the latest TC, then you need to reinstall cssu hildon-home in order to loose ability to resize icons etc ;)

My modified hildon-home will stay there until you a) upgrade CSSU to next available version or b) reinstall hildon-home manually via xterm.


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