Re: New book on Nokia's post0iPhone implosion
 

Wasn't the most important factor Symbian being Nokias cashcow? That is what gave management justification to neglect other inhouse developments until all trains to successfully shift away from symbian had left the station in 2008.

In my interpretation, Nokia failed from its past success and not being able to turn its ships crusted steering wheel when they finally realized the size of the iceberg.

Timing was key imo. There had been a short window in 2006-2007 to realize the impact that Apple would make by turning the game from business and nerd tech into some awkward NLP inspired mind control like emotion based thingy. Nokia Board had a leaked iPhone on the table according to another book i read but did not draw the right conclusions or just could not comprehend completely at the time. Which is admittedly really hard to judge from the pure device without knowing the strategy behind it i guess.
Don't know if Google board was genius or lucky but they where able to hit the market with a competitive product, slamming into the low price segment Apple "left for them" with full financial force.
Elop was just a symptom of Nokia Board grabbing for the last weathered straw imo.

Re: New book on Nokia's post0iPhone implosion
 

Hahahahahaaaaaa
I liked your post pichlo...
and I loved your reason for deletion better.

Well perhaps someone will do just that...
learn from all the nightmare of past hubris ...
and make a plain old debian compatible phone.
THAT would probably do the trick.

If we get a million squirrels (they are cheaper than monkeys...)
sitting at monitors ....
typing away random code ...
sooner or later ...
we will get a linux based phone OS that will actually work...

I call dibs on "Rodenux" ...for the name....

Re: New book on Nokia's post0iPhone implosion
 

Imho latest Symbian versions were not inferior in any way from iPhone or android at the time, I had a Nokia C7 ambassador device and it was handsome. Developing with Qt was a nice experience (I never used carbide c++, wich lots of people speak bad about it.) Meego was just a handsome device and the UI was the best at the time.

What killed Nokia was the bad management from the board and especially from Elop who went with MS OS.

The burning plataform memo hurt Nokia really bad, for real, I read at the time people saying that their companies stop buying Nokias for corporate bussines, because they didnt want to buy phones with a dead end OS.

When N950 come out, I also read about development companies who were really angry because Nokia wouldnt sell them. Nokia N9 was a beauty, and Nokia refused to sell it to major markets, altought people want it. I read about a guy wanting a symbian pureview and Nokia not selling it in his country.
How is all this not bad management not give the customers what they want ? :mad:

Up until today I have never bought a app outside Ovi, because in Ovi I could pay using the operator service. In android I dont want to put my credit card there. Eventually Ovi store was shutdown, because the plan was to give all up to MS, are you kidding me? :eek:

Elop said it went with MS so that Nokia could inovate and diferentiate itself from the competition. How the heck one does that with a closed proprietary OS like Windows ? Even Android was much more suited for that becase it was opensource.

Nokia was struggling to sell the symbians, the Windows phones, eventually they release those Nokia X androids, I remember reading that they were selling not so bad, and then they killed it again. They did everything wrong.

Rumor has it they were developing Meltemi for low end phones, then cancel it just a few weeks from that being ready to ship, because the money run out. If true, how is all this not bad management ? And they blame iPhone for Nokia fall :confused: ?