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Ok, I just posted my first question.

As far as your 80% figure is concerned - remember these are traceable public promises by individual members so if they renegue on their promise then you 'know where they live'.

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In any case, that would be not the 'wiki way'.

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Greyghost, you're coming at this from the wrong angle. The most experienced and knowledgeable members (this having nothing much to do with membership "seniority", BTW) are almost always the wrong persons to be writing Wiki pages. Yes, they like chatting away and arguing in the forums, and often drop useful information this way and that. But generally they don't *like* to write, in the sense of writing up a subject as you'd do in school. And if they do, the very fact that they understand the subject well makes it hard for them to explain it at the level of others who don't, not assuming some things are self-evident or well known, etc. Finally they could be be using their precious time for better things, like criticizing Nokia, flaming away at clueless newbies... or coding :-)

As I said a few posts earlier, better results can be achieved when it's someone who didn't know the answer, but is interested in it, and actually *likes* writing, that sums it up in the Wiki... So don't fret that you're not "senior" enough, or not technical enough : those are actually qualities in this matter, so dive !

There goes a).

As for b) it's a simple matter of human psychology. A hundred thousand wiki pages don't bloom overnight because creating structured information on anything out of a blank page is *hard work*. OTOH, criticizing is easy. So is reading up, tssk-tssk'ing and correcting a bit here, adding a bit there.
You'll see that if you go to the effort of summing up your own understanding of a topic in a new page, then post a link to it in the forum asking for corrections and contributions to it, you'll almost always get more "peer review" than you bargained for :-)

Are you out of your mind or something ? :)

edit: and about that multi-terawatt laser on the Moon, I have another idea for it... :-)

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Phew. Glad to see sanity hasn't been thrown completely out of the window.

Hmmm... Pray, do tell (steeples hands and puts on innocently-looking, yet eerily evil, interested face).

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[QUOTE=Red;104689]Sungrove, people have complained about this sort of thing before. Did you search before posting this thread?


That's very funny Red. I love your joke. :D

I really like the constructive direction this thread has taken. I think it's easy to be sypthetic with all sides.
I do like the idea of a FAQ section so that folks can simply look to see if their question has been answered already. If successful, such a thing could be very effective with the simpler questions that tend to come up over and over again.
I'm not yet familiar with the WIKI, but as has been suggested, maybe that can be used to develope answers to the more complex problems . So that I may write out a step by step procedure to solve a problem. Then you can try it and then edit what I have written to add detail I may have left out or to reflect your experience with the problem.
Some may say that such a system already exists. It's just a matter of making use of it. If so, great, we apparently just need to make better use of it.
I would like such a system for both helping others and to effectively get more out of my Nokia.
NS

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I go by my word. I can contribute typing, proof reading and, some organizing and computer bandwidth for a FAQ. I do not think I am at the caliber of editing/providing technical questions. I think everybody agree a FAQ is ripe by now, all we need is some organization or guru status. They do not have to do running job or nuts and bolts, I will offer my help.


bun

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Well, as a very close neighbour to the Kingdom of Belgium, one needs to be especially mindful of whatever happens over there these days, neh ? :)
Oh, it's not for me, it's for my friend Pitr, he has this little world domination side project :
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons...9&mode=classic
(and following)

The FAQ was already started.
 

I created the Wiki FAQ last night after reading the original post in this thread, and based on the discussion that Capt'n Corrupt started yesterday:
N810 and the Wiki: reducing redundant threads

I stayed up waaaay past my bedtime to create a basic structure and answer a few questions to get things started. (If anyone has a better structure or format the fix is easy... edit it. It may need revising eventually anyway if it gets too large.) And since I was on a roll, I also added a new article to the Wiki

So before you all went on and on in this thread about needing a FAQ in the Wiki, there was already a thread about it and the FAQ was already started. (Which you would have known if you had done a basic search before posting about how badly a FAQ needed.)

For all the talk about how a Wiki FAQ is the answer, only Red actually looked at the Wiki and perhaps gave a thought to starting it. And THAT is the reason these things usually fail... lots of talk and no action.

So here's your chance to prove me wrong. Add something to the FAQ. If you don't have the answers yourself, do a search to find a post with a good answer and simply link to that post. Or even just edit my answers if you can improve on them. I'd just like to see some of these complainers do SOMETHING to help themselves instead of relying on those who do all the helping already. And don't say you don't know how to edit a Wiki... I had never done it before last night either. I just did a little research and reading before starting.

And for those same people, who have probably read but ignored my .sig, a few days ago I created a custom search engine at Google for ITT, with some refinement terms. Try it. It works quite well... better than the ITT one in some ways. It may help you find the answer you need in order to create your first FAQ item.

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I will promise to work on the wiki, I have never worked on one but it can't be that hard. I don't have the free time to be a leader though.

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[QUOTE=technut;104894]I created [

So before you all went on and on in this thread about needing a FAQ in the Wiki, there was already a thread about it and the FAQ was already started. (Which you would have known if you had done a basic search before posting about how badly a FAQ needed.)

For all the talk about how a Wiki FAQ is the answer, only Red actually looked at the Wiki and perhaps gave a thought to starting it. And THAT is the reason these things usually fail... lots of talk and no action.


Technut, what the heck is your problem? You are really a bleep, aren't you? Do you just have to be right? We are simply tryig to solve a problem here and you just have to wade in and start being critical. Yah, thanks for taking the constructive steps. But there you go again being the search police! I'd like to know who elected you. If you'd simply be more positive about the solution to this problem, it would probably go a lot further to solving it.
Yes we will use what you started, but according to you it will fail right?

NS