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robin 2008-03-31 18:39

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
My main problem is pretty much the overall instability and brittleness of OS2008 on the N800, making virtual thumb keyboard use, well not very usable. Talked about it here:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=16365&page=3

Screen tap goes to random places / Especially when typing fast on full screen keyboard
One key input causing multiple repeats
High pressure sensitivity with no configuration
Finger tap not bringing up finger keyboard

Wonder if such a problem exists on tho N810, although those users r most likely be just using the physical keyboard, so the problems above are not as apparent. Either way, it's no reason for a newer non-beta version to be less stable.

dvergin 2008-03-31 18:46

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 162966)
So let's hit it, gang. VOTE ON THOSE BUGS!!!

Glad to contribute in this way. But where? Link please...

tso 2008-03-31 18:46

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
that playlist thing, am i missing something here? i could have sworn that can be done.

just add stuff to a empty "current playing" and then hit "save list"...

but then im the kind of guy that insert all my music into the default list and hits "random". old winamp habit i guess ;)

as for hidden dirs, they are often hidden for a reason (mostly because you normally have no reason to mess around in them on day to day). but yes, that missing feature was annoying me on the 770. but now there is emelfm2, so i dont care any more.

fonts, browser or otherwise, i have never cared much about. yes, i have seen people write page after page about fonts, aliasing and whats not. me, i just use defaults as long as they are readable. but then im geek, not artist ;)

video calls, welcome to the 80's. this is something that there have been much talk about but i have yet to be convinced has any real value. sure, its fun at times to watch whoever it is thats talking with you. but just as often i find myself talking while doing other stuff, resulting in the bandwidth of the video bit being wasted at best.

updating i can agree on. that one is just downright insane. even the nokia phones can deal with that...

GeneralAntilles 2008-03-31 18:46

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
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Originally Posted by RogerS (Post 162967)
Or maybe models should be offered with the option of buying considerably more RAM. One thing we know about electronic devices — future software wants more RAM than current software. A fixed amount obsoletes your IT faster than it ought to.

Just to make sure everybody involved is crystal clear RAM and application installation space are not the same thing.

With that aside.

I may be completely wrong here (I recall seeing this mentioned more than once, but I could perhaps have misunderstood or taken things out of context—somebody with a more intimate knowledge of OMAP please *****-slap me if I'm just talking out of my *** here) Manufacturing models with more or less RAM is a less trivial thing to do on an OMAP system than a regular laptop (one thing I am certain of, though, is that aftermarket expansion of that RAM is most certainly out of the question), as the RAM is manufactured into the SoC, rather than in a separate chip. So, to offer two models (say, one at 128MB and one at 256MB) it wouldn't simply be a matter of swapping out a RAM chip.

While I don't disagree that it would be a nice option, I don't really think it's super-appropriate for a mobile device right now. Personally, I'd rather just see Nokia put 512MB into the things with zero impact on either cost or battery life. :p

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Originally Posted by dvergin (Post 162980)
Glad to contribute in this way. But where? Link please...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 162896)
Not that I particularly agree with it, but, really, if you've got a problem with anything, that's what bugzilla is for.


iamthewalrus 2008-03-31 18:48

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 162966)
Ok, but HOW has it been brought up?
(...) So let's hit it, gang. VOTE ON THOSE BUGS!!! And by all means, argue (respectfully) to get your points across if need be.(...)

Agreed. But a lot of issues that are mentioned on ITT are a result of Nokia's design decisions rather than bugs in the strict sense. Maybe something like Ubuntu's brainstorm would be a better solution.

Texrat 2008-03-31 18:50

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
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Originally Posted by iamthewalrus (Post 162986)
Agreed. But a lot of issues that are mentioned ITT here are a result of Nokia's design decisions rather than bugs in the strict sense. Maybe something like Ubuntu's brainstorm would be a better solution.

It doesn't matter. Forget the word "bug"-- there's a place for everything on maemo bugzilla.

GeneralAntilles 2008-03-31 18:51

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
Most, if not all, of these issues are fixed in Diablo.

Texrat 2008-03-31 18:55

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 162988)
Most, if not all, of these issues are fixed in Diablo.

You have access to something I don't? :D

GeneralAntilles 2008-03-31 18:55

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 162987)
It doesn't matter. Forget the word "bug"-- there's a place for everything on maemo bugzilla.

Truthfully, he does have a point (although I'm not sure it was actually intentional, and assuming it wasn't, then your point is also valid :p). Issues with Nokia's stupid, lame, wife-beating, backwards UI spec don't (seemingly) get resolved through bugzilla. Look at all the (perfectly reasonable, and well thought-out) enhancement requests that get WONTFIXed because of the UI spec.

We really need a place to get changes made is that heaping pile of used prophylactics.

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 162991)
You have access to something I don't? :D

Nah, just bugzilla. ;)

Texrat 2008-03-31 18:57

Re: Some things I don't understand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 162992)
Truthfully, he does have a point (although I'm not sure it was actually intentional, and assuming it wasn't, then your point is also valid :p). Issues with Nokia's stupid, lame, wife-beating, backwards UI spec don't (seemingly) get resolved through bugzilla. Look at all the (perfectly reasonable, and well thought-out) enhancement requests that get WONTFIXed because of the UI spec.

We really need a place to get changes made is that heaping pill of used prophylactics.

To an extent I agree, but I still have to believe that the proper amount of protest can instigate change...


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