Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

Well of course. Firefox 3 has alot of optimizations and reductions in uses. But, what I was saying was if you start installing lots of Firefox extensions like I have on my laptop, it's going bog it down. :P

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

Well, i'm not sure about that.... I really didn't see any add-ons in Fennec, i also tried installing Ad-block but nothing happened. So i guess there will be addon support, but thats just a guess for now...

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

It is nice to see the Maemo/IT platform out front and center when discussing mobile, this Firefox on mobile has generated a lot of interest around the interwebs as has the Android on N810 hardware. As said before I really like the idea of using the N810 as a Firefox platform with all the extensions etc.

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

I'm only quoting Nathan, who wrote:

www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=169210&postcount=11

Also, I should note: I'm not excitedly crowing "It's here! It's here!" What is exciting to me is that the news about these features is based on actual testing and actual betas, not just speculation that it will come soon.

I'm not saying, "We have XUL now!" though these beta-testers do. But I am saying, "We CAN run XUL add-ons, look it's in the beta, and we'll be able to SOON."

I get pretty excited about potential sometimes. I should say that when that's what I'm talking about.

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

Yes, i know that, but i'm also pretty sure that the bundled Minefield with Fennec has actually misguided some people. There are no places, toolbars and tabs in Fennec, there are in Minefield.

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

I will slightly correct my prior posts. ;-)

Both Fennec and Minefield are in the same distribution. My Fennec icon/menu item was not working so I assumed minefield was it. After playing with the Fennec configuration file; I was able to fix my Fennec menu item. So I can run either of them now.

You have to realize that all Fennec is, is basically a theme applied to minefield to clean it up a bit for smaller screens. In fact both Fennec and Minefield run the exact same "Firefox" application; just one of them changes the directory for where the Chrome is located at. My earlier rant about using XUL, Adblock-Plus, NoScript and Tabs, and standard FF behavior is from testing the Minefield menu item, not the Fennec menu item. Disabling the Bookmark bar in Minefield gives you enough room that tabs can be used w/o making it too small. ;-D

However, playing with "both" of them, I still much prefer the minefield app (appears to be the same speed as Fennec, and memory usage). Which either of them just blows MicroB away.

Oh, and yes; minefield DOES support XUL, No-Script, Adblock+ and Places. Fennec, might, but I haven't really played with it too much since I got it working and realized I didn't really like the simplified theme. Maybe I'm a power user or something; but I like having my cake and eating it too. ;-)

Nathan.

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

It most certainly is -- since Diablo is not in the wild the only real valid comparisons is between released versions of software. Comparing a "unreleased" browser to an existing one is a not-fair comparison. ;-)

I assume Diablo's MicroB will be probably in the same ball park since it should also be using a Firefox Beta engine rather than A5; but as I stated before; using Minefield vs MicroB (Chinook or the supposed Diablo), Minefield wins because of the standard firefox behavior (like tabs, extensions, etc).

Nathan

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

Some seem to be trying to make the point that Minefield/Fennec is faster than MicroB because MicroB is poorly coded or badly put together or badly optimized or somesuch—but this simply isn't true, MicroB is just based on a much older snapshot of Gecko. So drawing certain conclusions from these comparisons is neither particularly valid nor useful.

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

I'd be interested in the results on the old Opera browser from Bora. For all the things we gained with MicroB, Opera always felt faster on the JS-heavy sites. I was kind of sad to see it go.

Looking forward to seeing what Diablo's MicroB can do, and hopefully seeing Diablo's in-place updates eventually give us better and better versions as Gecko and MicroB are optimized and improved.

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 

I don't think Opera would pass this test at all. Even desktop Opera is notoriously bad on Javascript.