Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

If you say all formal communication goes on through the lists, fine, but your saying we want formal communicat to go on at X Y Z at any time, follow all or don't?,

If everyone who wanted to help joined the mailing lists, then nobody will be talking on the forum.

Great so why are we debating this? Please can you identify how this will happen, who the players are? is it just Reggie? What technical hurdles are involved and do we expertise within the community to help move this forward? These are the things I want to hear, and if they are happening, how can we give greater visibility to these type of things to help them get accomplished faster?

Not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?

It's not that community isn't an option, mailing lists are options, forums are options. It seems to me that the forums are visited by the most people and therefore the best way to communicate to the most people. Thats all I am saying. I am not saying -community is not option.


Fair enough, but that does not make it easy for others to follow, unless they follow all the forms of communication available. That however seems to me to be a full time job.

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

I must admit, I could stand to listen to the same advice occasionally

Yes occasionally ;)

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

Up until last year I was really bad about not following my own advice there. Let's say I recently had a huge epiphany. A life-changing moment. Now that I am eating my own dog food, it's very freeing. :D

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

Interesting, do we have some numbers to put to this? How many active members of ITT vs active members of the mailing lists?

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

No, because beyond the intention to do it the technical details have not yet been hashed out. :)

There will be a lot of collision between Talk usernames and Freenode usernames and a reasonable way of working this out is needed.

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

Yes please share that info... I'll say it again to anyone who will listen. I am a member and I contribute to this forum because it works. I joined maemo.org and then the Garage in order to report a bug 2 years ago, The bug was fixed 3 updates and a version change later, it was also closed at least once without resolution.

When I first went to the site 2 years ago my browser would report that the sites web certificates were not up to date or bogus. I would have to disable my browsers security policy every time I visited the maemo.org or Garage sites.
To me it appeared that you guys just didn't care.
After 2 years some of these problems still exist. qgil pointed me to a thread that was opened now that we are all one big happy family. I posted about maemo.org's cookie handling and was pointed to a bug that I could vote on...
After 2 years you guys are still voting on something as important to your image as how your website behaves?

So yes, I have often wondered how many people felt that disabling their browsers security settings wasn't worth it... If I didn't have a bug to report, I know I wouldn't have bothered... and until the recent aquisition I hadn't been back since.

BTW, the link I was directed to is broken. :)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=285974&postcount=6
Is there another system in place to report that?

My question to the Council would be this:

If a thread was posted on the forum proposing that IRC should be changed or even discontinued and the consensus of the forum members was "Yes" would the forum only response have as much weight as an IRC only one?

I hope the answer is no to either scenario. I also hope that the Council remembers that this was not always the case.

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

That's a link to a single post. If you want to see the tread the post is from, click the link in the upper right hand corner.

If you are referring to the Bug link in the post, take the space after the single slash out of that link.

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

Either way the bug 2085 link takes me to:

I also realize that it could be a forum bug that truncates long url's but still, it was ironic.

https://bugs.maemo.org/%20show_bug.cgi?id=2085

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

I edited my message to add:

If you are referring to the Bug link in the post (which you are), take the space after the single slash out of that link.

Re: What role does the Maemo Community Council's play?
 

Let's make something clear: The people who were running maemo.org 2 years ago are not the same people running it today.

2 years ago, maemo.org was Nokia owned and operated, now it is community owned and operated

Huh? We don't own Freenode, and we don't have control over what they do with their network. Besides, this is really a rather weak dilemma since nobody is proposing discontinuing anything.

As for changes, proposals about Talk all end up going through Reggie (the owner and operator). He is the ultimate decider here.