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Texrat 2009-08-02 23:24
Re: Annoying Nokia about Flash until they update it
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 301508)
Considering it's a touted feature which Nokia packaged with the OS.. I think it's quite likely in their court. Particularly because it came with the OS. Who do you think Adobe treats as their customer in this case? Nokia or the individual user?
Sorry, Dan, that's disingenuous. Do you REALLY want to go there? If so, first start examining every product out there that bundles anything... :eek:

javispedro 2009-08-03 00:08
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BTW, http://www.adobe.com/support/securit...apsa09-03.html (aka remote code execution vulnerability, theoretically possible to exploit on ARM but not done yet).

Adobe has already released the 9.x i386 update, but AFAIK not the ARM one and it's still unknown if they're going to release it.

gerbick 2009-08-03 00:20
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 308374)
You don't even want to know how difficult it was to share that sort of thing inside.

Ever hear the expression "pushing rope"?
Heh... one of these days, you will have to share this story man.

Texrat 2009-08-03 01:00
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 308382)
Heh... one of these days, you will have to share this story man.
Here's the story:

I was a feedback analyst. My job was to mine data, identify trends/risks, and provide feedback.

No one wanted any.

The end.

gerbick 2009-08-03 01:50
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 308384)
Here's the story:

I was a feedback analyst. My job was to mine data, identify trends/risks, and provide feedback.

No one wanted any.

The end.
Way more anti-climatic than I was prepared for. No hatchets? No threats? No drama?

Boo ;)

gregd 2009-08-03 03:05
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"Pushing rope"?

Not at all. Adobe doesn't do flash because they feel generous. This isn't open source; it's a business. Flash enables commerce, and any device that can't play it, can't participate. That eventually means less revenue back to Adobe.

If we can show a significant set of potential customers that are not going to participate in their business food chain, then they will be more inclined to take action.

We need to let Adobe and Nokia - both - know that they have a large set of customers to serve. And, since I just got my N810, I'm in no mood to fork over a bunch of money on whatever the next model is, especially if it "comes with" a monthly data plan! If that's their answer, then this is probably the LAST Nokia product I will ever buy.

Greg.

fms 2009-08-03 08:42
Re: Annoying Nokia about Flash until they update it
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 308384)
I was a feedback analyst. My job was to mine data, identify trends/risks, and provide feedback. No one wanted any.
This pretty much describes Nokia's treatment of Maemo userbase, in a nutshell.

Andre Klapper 2009-08-03 09:15
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Originally Posted by fms (Post 308438)
This pretty much describes Nokia's treatment of Maemo userbase, in a nutshell.
At least for issues reported against Fremantle SDK versions in the last months that's not really true. Quite some stuff got fixed that was originally reported by users, definitely more than 50% of what has been reported.
But I guess we all agree that Nokia could do way better of course.

fms 2009-08-03 09:27
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper (Post 308442)
At least for issues reported against Fremantle SDK versions in the last months that's not really true. Quite some stuff got fixed that was originally reported by users, definitely more than 50% of what has been reported.
I did not mean the bug reports against Fremantle SDK. I meant the feedback about released Nokia products, N800 and N810, both the software bug reports and the comments on the hardware, features, mechanics, etc.

Texrat 2009-08-03 13:37
Re: Annoying Nokia about Flash until they update it
 
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Originally Posted by gregd (Post 308395)
"Pushing rope"?

Not at all. Adobe doesn't do flash because they feel generous. This isn't open source; it's a business. Flash enables commerce, and any device that can't play it, can't participate. That eventually means less revenue back to Adobe.
I get the feeling maybe you don't understand the expression or maybe the context?


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