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sachin007 2009-09-22 15:55

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 
I understand some of the concerns in this thread. But if someone is going to be influenced by an exit poll then he really doesnt need the right to vote. In reality most of the people who are eligible to vote will have sufficient karma to know the contributions of each and every one in the list and i am sure no one will get influenced by this poll. It would have been a different scenario if even newbies had the right to vote, since that is not the case, i think there is nothing wrong with this poll as long as it does not hurt anyone else in the community. Infact this community is open and as long as anyone is not effected by the post anyone can post anything and everything.

allnameswereout 2009-09-22 16:18

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 331573)
But if someone is going to be influenced by an exit poll then he really doesnt need the right to vote.

People are constantly influenced by tactical voting. Our current election methods do not take this flaw into account leaving much room for optimisation. However, it isn't easy to reform a democratic system at its very core.

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In reality most of the people who are eligible to vote will have sufficient karma to know the contributions of each and every one in the list and i am sure no one will get influenced by this poll.
No.

lma 2009-09-22 16:38

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 
Just a quick note on the getting influenced by the poll thing: If you feel at all strongly about any of the candidates, do vote! The numbers are so small that every single ballot makes a difference. For example, in the last election, the threshold for getting elected was 27 votes, and two of the council members were elected with just 13 first-choice votes.

klinglerware 2009-09-22 16:48

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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 331543)

In the US exit polls are run as people exit the voting facility. They are run by candidates on both side. The republicans will go to a heavily republican population and say "WE are winning" Then dems go to a highly democratic population and claim the same thing.

This is not true with regards to the exit poll results reported by the US network news media for national elections. These are, in fact, funded by the networks themselves and run by survey researchers. For live election day polling, the voter precincts used are selected via random sample.

Of course there are several weaknesses in exit polling methodology as employed by the networks. But at its heart the methodology is statistically based, generally conforming to the tenets of standard social science quantitative research methodology. So, while not perfect, it cannot be said that exit poll results are shots in the dark either.

Texrat 2009-09-22 17:41

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 
I really, really hope this poll isn't indicative of actual voting not due to actual numbers per candidate but at overall participation here so far.

I still think the poll is a non-starter in the context of this election and am frankly surprised at some reactions.

lemmyslender 2009-09-22 17:42

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As far as I can see 35 people have voted in this poll, including 4 who were not able to vote and realized that this wasn't the real "voting". Based on that 35 people felt it worthwhile to answer the poll and only about 4 people felt it worthwhile to complain about it.

By my count that is better than a 7 to 1 ratio of people who don't have a problem with the poll. That indicates to me that most people are OK with it.

Texrat 2009-09-22 17:45

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Unfortunately it doesn't work that way lemmy. Those 4 people are not expressing any sort of satisfaction or dissatisfaction with any process-- simply saying they can't or didn't vote (separating those two might have been useful).

What you are looking for would actually require a poll about the poll. ;)

penguinbait 2009-09-22 17:47

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 331654)
I really, really hope this poll isn't indicative of actual voting not due to actual numbers per candidate but at overall participation here so far.

I still think the poll is a non-starter in the context of this election and am frankly surprised at some reactions.

Says the man is second place ;)

Texrat 2009-09-22 17:48

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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 331657)
Says the man is second place ;)

That actually has nothing to do with my comment. People opposed to this poll are likely not voting on it, and I believe that set highly intersects the "shut up and stay home" set from my own poll. ;)

penguinbait 2009-09-22 17:49

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 331659)
That actually has nothing to do with my comment. People opposed to this poll are likely not voting on it, and I believe that set highly intersects the "shut up and stay home" set from my own poll. ;)

I am aware it does not, that was friendly ribbing.

I never intended this to cause controversy, although I never do...


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