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SD69 2009-10-03 13:56

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
It's a job, not a religion. I got news for you - Nokia hired an Apple guy to design and launch their flagship stores. If you've ever been in a Nokia flagship store, and you didn't mistake it for an Apple store, well maybe that should tell you something. :)

legendemeritus 2009-10-03 13:58

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 338747)
you mean like... - what? a broken distribution system for 3rd party apps? (there's a thread about it somewhere here)
no distribution at all outside america?
increasing losses?

oh...

you do know Nokia sells phones, right?

nilchak 2009-10-03 14:00

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 338747)
you mean like... - what? a broken distribution system for 3rd party apps? (there's a thread about it somewhere here)
no distribution at all outside america?
increasing losses?

oh...

I guess when you read financial results, you don't read the whole of it.

Palm financial looses are for the older divisions pre-pam Pre. Only taking the Palm Pre results (which hast been out that long as yet), its results would have been positive actually.

Don't skew the facts.

And distribution channels are a different matter - its not as if 3 Apple executives are going to change the whole Palm company which just goes to prove that one Apple executive at Nokia will not change Nokia.

legendemeritus 2009-10-03 14:04

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
with three phones, Apple has invaded Nokia's marketplace. I would like some of that back frankly! (as typed on a MacBook)

YoDude 2009-10-03 14:32

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
How come this comes down to a discussion about iTunes or iPhone and profitability?

On that one only has to look at the PC business over the past few years... I think Nokia did and concluded that a closed OS married to specific hardware at first attracted a lot of market but eventually lost out to a user friendly closed OS that ran on user configurable hardware. In the end however a user friendly Open Source OS is the one that continues to grow.

Nokia sells phones.


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I hope this guy does well in whatever he does for Nokia. Whatever it is, it will not result in short term radical change of anything, imo.
For me, using the "positive paranoid" concept that geneven recently introduced me to, this means that Nokia believes that this Maemo thing just might "take off" and give them a rare chance at an OVI store "do over". Perhaps they want people with experience in position now so they do not miss any opportunity..

f(x) 2009-10-03 14:39

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
I hope that apple guy don't have any rule on Nokia product design! I don't want my device to be simple-basic with some white-y and slim design.I want to be fatty as possible without losing any functionality!

If that executive is going to do anything, then I suggest he starts with making maemo-store (I hate OVI & rebuilding it is time consuming , just build new one!) after that let him try to get some of the big names into it. As a hint: We don't need to get programs as OSS have self-sufficiency in that aspect , just games!& remember that maemo doesn't need DRM to sell games as Windows don't have it. (I read this line here somewhere, just forget who mentioned it :) )

If this guy have to do anythings with the design , let him add *R1,R2 & L1,L2 buttons or have R1,L1 is enough for gaming. After that release a version with Phone Chip and other one without (This will kill iPod touch)


(People call this shoulder keys , for none PS/Sony guys)

Texrat 2009-10-03 14:59

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 338655)
bad news. :(

hope this person will not bring everything that's wrong and bad with apple over to maemo. it's a bit like celebrating the fact that a successful criminal was hired to lead your local bank.

My fear: Maemo --> Open, Apple --> closed.

But it could be groundless paranoia. Hoping for the best...

Texrat 2009-10-03 15:05

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 338743)
Do you think a corporaton and its directions and strategies are so neboulous that one excutive willc hange it all in a flash ? .

Is that a rhetorical question or do you really want an answer?

For me it's yes. I worked at a US-based international corporation that hired a CEO who singlehandedly half destroyed operations. Don't forget CEOs bring in other people, and this guy did. His infiltrators did an extreme amount of damage in a short time and, like locusts, fled afterward.

He was also president and chairman of the board of directors (part of his contract) so he wielded great power.

When he was fired for poor performance by a board that rediscovered its gonads, he collected over 50 million USD severance and moved on to his next victim.

The American way. :rolleyes:

Kypeli 2009-10-03 15:15

Re: Nokia hires ex-Apple executive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 338770)
For me it's yes. I worked at a US-based international corporation that hired a CEO who singlehandedly half destroyed operations. Don't forget CEOs bring in other people, and this guy did. His infiltrators did an extreme amount of damage in a short time and, like locusts, fled afterward.

Yeah, but this guy will not replace Jaaksi, who is the CEO of Maemo. Why is this such a big deal? We don't even know what this guy's title is in Nokia, or do we? Would it be equally bad if Nokia would hire software engineers from Apple?

NvyUs 2009-10-03 15:18

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seriously this is no big deal, one person does not effect a company like nokia what is massive in size and employees


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