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allnameswereout 2009-10-15 21:00

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
Changing OS language (localization) has traditionally been supported out of the box on Maemo. That will work on Maemo 5 as well.

bemymonkey 2009-10-15 21:02

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
Hooray! :)

Helmuth 2009-10-28 11:03

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raubtier (Post 347106)
thats not the german version ! (no umlaut)

I HOPE this IS the correct german version. It's exactly the same like the U.S. but the Z and Y Keys are at the correct places.

You don't need umlauts. You can place them as shortcouts (softbuttons) on your Touchscreen.

If it is not the correct Picture at amazon, I will send my N900 back. (because the picture in the offer iss different)

chemist 2009-11-18 23:41

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 359733)
I HOPE this IS the correct german version. It's exactly the same like the U.S. but the Z and Y Keys are at the correct places.

You don't need umlauts. You can place them as shortcouts (softbuttons) on your Touchscreen.

If it is not the correct Picture at amazon, I will send my N900 back. (because the picture in the offer iss different)

sorry dude

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=79

in the original US or EU qwerty layout there seems to be no second or third mapping for the arrow keys, what about putting the umlauts there? it would be upper and lower case!

smage 2009-11-19 00:15

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
I just want to buy the UK version conveniently from Italy, or get a fast keyboard replacement.

I'm mostly typing in english anyway. or else I'll order from the uk I guess.

In the end Nokia cannot find a perfect solution for everyone :) I'm not sure the arrow keys will be used a lot anyway, its a touch screen device and you can always remap

benny1967 2009-11-19 07:34

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
a keyboard is for text input. so letters are of course the most important part. having arrow keys is nice, but if you have to choose, letters are more important.

(i have to admit i'm pissed by having to press "Fn" each time i type "ß" on the N810.)

what i don't understand is why people usually want to get rid of umlauts; from a practical pov, you'd have to remove other letters first because they're not used as often as umlauts.

ossipena 2009-11-19 07:56

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
so ä & ö are special characters?

i rather have those straight from keyboard than 2 arrows that i can't think any real use. wasd works fine when needed for example...

Rauha 2009-11-19 08:04

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 381780)
so ä & ö are special characters?

i rather have those straight from keyboard than 2 arrows that i can't think any real use. wasd works fine when needed for example...

I would be extremly suprised if the mythical "average consumer" preferred arrow keys over full alphabets on keyboard.

Hell I wouldn't mind losing even the two existing arrow keys in Nordic layout. For example, currently comma and period share same key. I reckon I use comma at least 50x more than left arrow key.

PortaDiFerro 2009-11-19 08:09

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
It is bit of a dilemma I suppose, have to fit those extra localized keys somewhere, and it seems to me the arrow keys are the most logical choice. Now I don't know how you access the arrow keys then, but if there's some kind of sticky control key, then it shouldn't be a big problem to just change mode while you need arrows and then take it off.

And besides, I can't think of much use for arrows anyway.. vi and emacs have their own movement keys, and games usually use WASD.

Although it's just probably that using the arrows is unconscious, and won't notice how much I need them until I don't have them anymore :P

I use Colemak keymap atm on my computer with all the non-ascii letters behind altgr and my typing speed drops down to around 80WPM, when I have to write finnish, but it doesn't bother me enough that I would modify it for my needs. Not sure yet if I'll be using that on n900, since probably can't touch type on it anyway?

titan 2009-11-19 09:53

Re: European Keyboard Layout Protest
 
FYI, this the QUERTZ layout that was originally planned for Germany (from Amazon.de)
http://z2-ec2.images-amazon.com/R/1/...3170563+e=.jpg

EDIT: sorry, I was misinformed. please ignore this post.


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