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Rushmore 2009-10-23 13:19

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
If this problem is due 100% to not using verified repository apps, this thread should be the main example of why non-techies should avoid "rogue" sites for apps when the N900 is released. At least until the dust settles and the community has had time to absorb the OS changes for app installs.

mjdavis 2009-10-23 13:24

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
This is not too surprising, and the official Nokia N900 website specs...

Up to 1 GB of application memory (256 MB RAM, 768 MB virtual memory)

is spot on with:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...opt_and_MyDocs

Unfortunately, the fact that 100MB is free of the 256MB (rest used by the system) is somewhat disheartening.

I don't see this as being fixed by Nokia as a bug, its what they reported in the first place and developers will work around it as they already have.

javispedro 2009-10-23 13:27

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mjdavis (Post 356438)
Up to 1 GB of application memory (256 MB RAM, 768 MB virtual memory)

is spot on with:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...opt_and_MyDocs

Nope, not the same. 256 MiB is RAM. The 256MiB we're talking here is OneNAND, and contains the root filesystem, kernel, boot loader... (basically, firmware).

mikkov 2009-10-23 13:28

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 356433)
Is there any app in extras (-stable) not optified? How could that happen?

Yes there is. That's because many of the testers haven't noticed (or don't care?) non optified apps.

livefreeordie 2009-10-23 13:32

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 356441)
Nope, not the same. 256 MiB is RAM. The 256MiB we're talking here is OneNAND, and contains the root filesystem, kernel, boot loader... (basically, firmware).

This is nothing. I've seen people claim the N900 has 256 MB of RAM and swaps on 768 MB of ROM :D

hqh 2009-10-23 13:35

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 356443)
Yes there is. That's because many of the testers haven't noticed (or don't care?) non optified apps.

So it seems that the QA process is very nice in theory, but does not work in practice. Is it possible to make an automated check for optification to bypass the "human factor"?

attila77 2009-10-23 13:35

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Since we already have a clear criteria of optification requirements, it's really something that should be part of of the development process - testers looking into optification process should be the exception (e.g. when there is a good reason for an app or part NOT being optified).

mjdavis 2009-10-23 13:54

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
So how do the developers feel about these limitations? Is it really a non-issue and will be corrected once all developers correct their apps to use /opt?

I still feel that the potential to run out of space in / before /opt is full because of the need to place some files in /lib or /etc. Hopefully I'm corrected here as I am seeing the same old Smartphone constraints on our "Mobile Computer" here.

Rushmore 2009-10-23 14:05

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mjdavis (Post 356465)
So how do the developers feel about these limitations? Is it really a non-issue and will be corrected once all developers correct their apps to use /opt?

I still feel that the potential to run out of space in / before /opt is full because of the need to place some files in /lib or /etc. Hopefully I'm corrected here as I am seeing the same old Smartphone constraints on our "Mobile Computer" here.

Good point. Is there another option for those files, or will certain apps have not choice in order to function correctly? This would suggest a contraint to the installation process.

Man I miss my Amiga- greatest app and memory management evah!

ArnimS 2009-10-23 14:07

Re: N900 root partition at 88%
 
Agree with javispedro. Any extras-devel app is there for testing and bugreports and should be used as such. Be sure to check any extras-devel app carefully before and after install. I even suggest rebooting after installing an extras-devel app because it might have just trashed your system into reboot-loop.

You can du -s /usr/share/* | sort -n

(and /usr/lib/*) to see what is taking up space on your root fs.


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