Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

true story - they treat the n900 like a closed source-system with their update-policy. at least it seems like that, i mean, the phone is out how long? a few days? lets hope it will change soon.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

Updates to the OOs have nothing to do with open source or not. The OS, while being based around linux still contains closed source items. Add to that the fact that if they simply opened updates to people as they came into beta this entire board would be post after post of "whaa I bricked my phone"

On another note the phone has been out 2 weeks to the public. Hardly a long period of time to expect the first update.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

Moreover a bug fix may introduce some "collateral effects" so it needs to be tested in house before declaring it a proper fix.

Unless you want your phone to be screwed up :)

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

Other Linux distributions manage to push individual package updates out when they're ready. There's no reason the same shouldn't happen with Maemo.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

Google rolled out updates continually to the G1 when it first released. If I recall, they started rolling them out very quickly when they found bugs...and this was Google's first outing with the phone. This is Nokia's 4th Maemo device and they still are moving at glacial speeds.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

Um - no they didnt 1.1 was released several MONTHS after the original release and even that didnt fix half of the problems identified. I should know I was right there at the beginning with the G1.

Claiming that this is Nokia's 4th Maemo device means jack and squat - because this is their first Maemo 5!!! device and thats a brand new OS baby, on a brand new device

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

I agree, Maemo would benefit from rolling out updates to independent subsystems when they are independently ready.

But you know, a lot of subsystems aren't completely independent - even ones which seem like they should be - and then it's a good idea to do lots of testing of them together.

Especially for a complex device sold to people who aren't expecting to deal with "computer problems" and possibly sold in the millions.

For the most part, Ubuntu (et al) roll out applications updates independently, but core subsystem updates are more carefully tested, and they are not usually rolled out until enough time has been spent testing. It is the same with Maemo: Application updates from maemo.org and (one day!) Ovi will roll out independently.

I think the main thing missing from the Maemo picture is there is no easy way for people who are prepared to take risks to download the firmware or firmware components being tested.

But then, Nokia has more to lose than Ubuntu if lots of people's devices are bricked, vs. Ubuntu not booting and needing to simply go back a kernel version in the bootloader.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

You are more likely to keep a reliable phone by getting 1 well tested larger update than 20 incremental ones in the same time period.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

Something most of you also don't realize is that there are legal issues that Nokia has to deal with when they put out these firmware updates, especially for open source software. It's most likely a lot easier for them to test one particular release and then push it through legal than have several small updates that have to go through all the steps.

I was surprised by this too, believe me.

Re: Where to get the firmware 2.2009.44-6 available on RDA?
 

The G1 was introduced Oct 22-ish, the RC29 update rolled out almost a week or two later. It wasn't a 1.1 update, but it was a bugfix.

http://www.androidcentral.com/rc29-update-tmobile-g1

Maemo is maemo. Don't tell me Maemo 5 is a completely new paradigm, it isn't.